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We Teach Nothing, We Know Nothing—And That Could Cost the United States Everything
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Oct 18, 2019 15:19:27   #
debeda
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
In regard to the problems in education noted by the author, I could not agree more. Though I retired from teaching 25 years ago, the problem was evident even before that. There are a few states that are such huge buyers of text books that publishers, and therefore authors, cater to them. And several of them have state boards that review texts and if the book is not approved by that board it cannot be used in any public school in that state. And as for standardized tests, well they are the worst thing that ever hit education. I took chemistry in a school in New York. We stopped learning chemistry in April. We took old Regents Exams every day, preparing for the final. When I taught chemistry at Burlington High, Vermont had no such thing as a standardized exam, so I taught my kids chemistry right to the end of school, and I got some good feedback from a professor at UVM, so I must have been doing somethin' right. As for "political correctness" whether from the right or left, that is, if you will pardon my French, merde de vache. And just where in the Constitution does Congress or the President have any authority to tell states how to run their schools?
In regard to the problems in education noted by th... (show quote)


Since the department of education was founded in it's current iteration in 1976??? Not sure of the year. I remember a teacher telling us in grade school that you had to pass a test at the end of the school year to be promoted to the next grade

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Oct 18, 2019 15:27:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Unfortunately, the teachers teach a revisionist history. Real history-gone unless you get it at home whichall of my friends take care of as do I. They themselves were taught wrong so we can't blame them completely, but the generation before them. All the rest was spot on.


We slept after WWII...

It was so horrible folks wanted it out of their heads. It shows up in the culture, music, movies, later TV. There were things that might have had a bit of gritty reality but it sure wasn't popular...

We wanted to work, play, love raise our kids and forget there are still people with a generational plan to take what we have; people with lots of power and money but not enough for them...

So we worked, played, loved, raised our kids and became complacent...

Incrementally, agents of those same people crept into positions of authority, substituted t***h for narrative, subverted school curriculums, outsourced industry by regulatory decree (clever, eh? governments could force industries to go where their Rothschild Cabal masters told them they wanted them...and NOT HERE was where they wanted our jobs).

They kept us up to our eyeballs in stupid wars that accomplish nothing except make them rich from the destruction and rebuilding both!

War keeps us preoccupied, masking them, willing to spend money we don't have and it keeps our numbers down. Got to cull the herd from time to time.

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Oct 18, 2019 15:36:23   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
We slept after WWII...

It was so horrible folks wanted it out of their heads. It shows up in the culture, music, movies, later TV. There were things that might have had a bit of gritty reality but it sure wasn't popular...

We wanted to work, play, love raise our kids and forget there are still people with a generational plan to take what we have; people with lots of power and money but not enough for them...

So we worked, played, loved, raised our kids and became complacent...

Incrementally, agents of those same people crept into positions of authority, substituted t***h for narrative, subverted school curriculums, outsourced industry by regulatory decree (clever, eh? governments could force industries to go where their Rothschild Cabal masters told them they wanted them...and NOT HERE was where they wanted our jobs).

They kept us up to our eyeballs in stupid wars that accomplish nothing except make them rich from the destruction and rebuilding both!

War keeps us preoccupied, masking them, willing to spend money we don't have and it keeps our numbers down. Got to cull the herd from time to time.
We slept after WWII... br br It was so horrible f... (show quote)



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Oct 18, 2019 15:56:04   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
debeda wrote:


These people are cannibals...literally.

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Oct 18, 2019 16:05:00   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
One year I got a Vermont State Senator unelected. (Peter Shumlin later did manage to become governor.) It was just after G.Bush signed that atrocity called "No Child Left Behind." There was a big meeting of town officials down to Northfield. Speakers spent a couple of hours telling us what we had to do to comply with this law. Finally they finished and opened the meeting to questions. When they recognized me I asked why Vermont schools had to comply with this when the Constitution gives the Feds no authority over schools? Senator Shumlin jumped up and shouted "I'll answer that question! I don't care what it says in the Constitution! We have to have that Federal money!"

250 Town selectmen, school board members and town clerks gave out an audible gasp. The word apparently went back to his county and he lost the next e******n.

The trouble started under Eisenhower, when Congress passed the National Defense Education Act, about 1960. Defense is a Constitutional responsibility of Congress. We were going to catch up with those Russians who had put Sputnik into space before we did. (We actually were way ahead of 'em anyway but who knew that during the e******n?) It was great for a while. I'd just taken on a job as science teacher in a small rural high school. My lab equipment consisted of about a dozen test tubes, two boxes of empty baby food jars and a snapping turtle shell! The next year, under NDEA I had bunsen burners, test tubes by the score, microscopes etc. But the camel's nose was under the tent and the Feds have gradually taken over the education system. They don't even bother to put the word "defense" in the title of their bills anymore.

This reminds me of a cartoon done by Bill Mauldin back in the late 1940's. (For those of you too young to remember Bill Mauldin, he spent the early 1940's drawing cartoon for "Stars and Stripes." Willy and Joe were the most disreputable GI's in the ETO. The troops loved 'em) The cartoon shows two congressmen, one standing and the other sitting at his desk with a copy of the Constitution on the wall behind him. He says to the standing senator " Read it? I haven't got time to read it! I'm too busy defending it."

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Oct 18, 2019 16:11:38   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
One year I got a Vermont State Senator unelected. (Peter Shumlin later did manage to become governor.) It was just after G.Bush signed that atrocity called "No Child Left Behind." There was a big meeting of town officials down to Northfield. Speakers spent a couple of hours telling us what we had to do to comply with this law. Finally they finished and opened the meeting to questions. When they recognized me I asked why Vermont schools had to comply with this when the Constitution gives the Feds no authority over schools? Senator Shumlin jumped up and shouted "I'll answer that question! I don't care what it says in the Constitution! We have to have that Federal money!"

250 Town selectmen, school board members and town clerks gave out an audible gasp. The word apparently went back to his county and he lost the next e******n.

The trouble started under Eisenhower, when Congress passed the National Defense Education Act, about 1960. Defense is a Constitutional responsibility of Congress. We were going to catch up with those Russians who had put Sputnik into space before we did. (We actually were way ahead of 'em anyway but who knew that during the e******n?) It was great for a while. I'd just taken on a job as science teacher in a small rural high school. My lab equipment consisted of about a dozen test tubes, two boxes of empty baby food jars and a snapping turtle shell! The next year, under NDEA I had bunsen burners, test tubes by the score, microscopes etc. But the camel's nose was under the tent and the Feds have gradually taken over the education system. They don't even bother to put the word "defense" in the title of their bills anymore.

This reminds me of a cartoon done by Bill Mauldin back in the late 1940's. (For those of you too young to remember Bill Mauldin, he spent the early 1940's drawing cartoon for "Stars and Stripes." Willy and Joe were the most disreputable GI's in the ETO. The troops loved 'em) The cartoon shows two congressmen, one standing and the other sitting at his desk with a copy of the Constitution on the wall behind him. He says to the standing senator " Read it? I haven't got time to read it! I'm too busy defending it."
One year I got a Vermont State Senator unelected. ... (show quote)


A huge part of the puzzle, to be sure, but prior to this we gave the global elite 3 big tools they use against us today:

The Federal Reserve - funny money

The IRS - the right to our money

The 17th Amendment - popular e******n of Senators instead of appointment by state legislatures

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Oct 18, 2019 17:13:04   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
It isn't just in socialist countries that rich people call the shots. Here in Vermont that Yorker billionaire, Mike Bloomberg has been buying v**es in our legislature for several years. My so-called rep gets about $500 from Bloomberg or his "Gunsence Vermont" every year and v**es for every anti gun bill that is proposed. Bloomberg finally got the legislature to pass a 30 round mag ban two years ago. We can keep 'em but we can't buy 'em. And that in a state with one of the lowest crime rates in the US.

However, please note that here in the Green Mountains we do a lot of socialist stuff. Services that are too important to be left to private business are often taken over by the community. In this small town, we primarily handle only three, namely public roads, fire department and public schools, but in larger towns they often have more, such as public water supplies, public sewage systems, solid waste disposal or public police forces. Burlington has a public electric generation plant and the state owns most of the rail lines west of the mountains. So don't be afraid of the word "socialist." If it's bottom up socialism it works fine.
It isn't just in socialist countries that rich peo... (show quote)


That's for small-town therefore it's easier to manage but when you talk about a whole country you're in for severe problems and I wouldn't call that socialism anyway just communal where the public excepts responibility for part and the town another that way it easier on both that is not true socialism

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Oct 18, 2019 18:11:53   #
milamber
 
BigMike wrote:
A huge part of the puzzle, to be sure, but prior to this we gave the global elite 3 big tools they use against us today:

The Federal Reserve - funny money

The IRS - the right to our money

The 17th Amendment - popular e******n of Senators instead of appointment by state legislatures


agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 18, 2019 18:31:48   #
debeda
 
BigMike wrote:
These people are cannibals...literally.


They are. And people line up to support them cuz they SOUND good to them...

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Oct 18, 2019 18:33:44   #
debeda
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
One year I got a Vermont State Senator unelected. (Peter Shumlin later did manage to become governor.) It was just after G.Bush signed that atrocity called "No Child Left Behind." There was a big meeting of town officials down to Northfield. Speakers spent a couple of hours telling us what we had to do to comply with this law. Finally they finished and opened the meeting to questions. When they recognized me I asked why Vermont schools had to comply with this when the Constitution gives the Feds no authority over schools? Senator Shumlin jumped up and shouted "I'll answer that question! I don't care what it says in the Constitution! We have to have that Federal money!"

250 Town selectmen, school board members and town clerks gave out an audible gasp. The word apparently went back to his county and he lost the next e******n.

The trouble started under Eisenhower, when Congress passed the National Defense Education Act, about 1960. Defense is a Constitutional responsibility of Congress. We were going to catch up with those Russians who had put Sputnik into space before we did. (We actually were way ahead of 'em anyway but who knew that during the e******n?) It was great for a while. I'd just taken on a job as science teacher in a small rural high school. My lab equipment consisted of about a dozen test tubes, two boxes of empty baby food jars and a snapping turtle shell! The next year, under NDEA I had bunsen burners, test tubes by the score, microscopes etc. But the camel's nose was under the tent and the Feds have gradually taken over the education system. They don't even bother to put the word "defense" in the title of their bills anymore.

This reminds me of a cartoon done by Bill Mauldin back in the late 1940's. (For those of you too young to remember Bill Mauldin, he spent the early 1940's drawing cartoon for "Stars and Stripes." Willy and Joe were the most disreputable GI's in the ETO. The troops loved 'em) The cartoon shows two congressmen, one standing and the other sitting at his desk with a copy of the Constitution on the wall behind him. He says to the standing senator " Read it? I haven't got time to read it! I'm too busy defending it."
One year I got a Vermont State Senator unelected. ... (show quote)


Good information I didn't know. Thanks!

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Oct 18, 2019 19:31:14   #
Big Kahuna
 
woodguru wrote:
You should be so lucky


So you admit you are lucky to be a dumb demonrat? I always knew you had a low I.Q.

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Oct 18, 2019 20:29:30   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
Even at the National level, there are still things that have to be run by the public. Of course, the farther it is from the people, the easier it is to introduce corruption, and that is one problem we seem to have. For instance, prisons that are run by for-profit companies have been found to be corrupt over the past several years. In one case a few years back, a judge was getting kickbacks for every prisoner he sent to a private prison, and was sentencing kids to long terms for minor events that didn't even qualify as crimes. A public prison doesn't give anybody any motive for doing stuff like this. We run our armies as public organizations for this reason. Now in a republic, the will of the people should govern the actions of our elected representatives. And they don't anymore.

Now if you go back to basics, in the Declaration of Independence, Tom Jefferson wrote that people establish governments to ensure certain rights, including the rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Now based on this, some might think that health care is a service that government should provide. As a veteran, I don't care as I have that Tricare for Life in addition to Medicare. (Thank goodness! I had a knee joint replaced last Tuesday. Maybe I can get out for deer season next year.) But a lot of people don't have such a program and they are hurting, financially and physically. So as folks living in a republic we have to decide how to use our resources. We can spend our money on war or on health care. I would bet that that if given a choice, most people would choose health care. But our so-called reps will v**e for war every time. So what is war?

According to every military text in the world, war is "diplomacy, but carried on by different means." But way down in the text there is another definition. War is and always has been a way to redistribute wealth. We don't do that in the crude ways that they used to use. Now we tax our own citizens and give out big contracts to that Military/Industrial Complex that Ike warned us about. And it would not be surprising to find that those big military/industrial companies have ways of slipping money under the table to the guys who are supposed to be representing us. So are they really representing us?

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Oct 18, 2019 22:46:42   #
2quick4u Loc: Somewhere in central Tx...
 
Parky60 wrote:
We Teach Nothing, We Know Nothing—And That Could Cost the United States Everything
BRYAN PRESTON ~ OCTOBER 14, 2019
A couple of years ago, a retired teacher who stays in close touch with history teachers across Texas told me something disturbing. Like most states, Texas has standardized testing. Unlike most states, Texas requires public school students to study Texas history in the 4th and 7th grades. Texas history is red in tooth and claw and full of big personalities and big ideas. Standardized testing is forcing teachers to drop about half of the second semester of Texas history to focus on U.S. history -- not to deepen students' understanding of American history, but to teach to the standardized tests.

This, according to my friend, shortchanges students from learning about key parts of Texas history. Teaching to the test is shallow. Add in that history teaching is being watered down overall across our public education system, and we have a problem.

That problem was exposed, unintentionally, by an Obama administration official.

Far be it from me to agree with an Obama acolyte, but Ben Rhodes infamously said, "They literally know nothing" about the journalists he manipulated to sell the awful Iran nuclear deal. This, he said, made it easy to sell that deal. He was a liberal, most journalists are default liberal, so they believed wh**ever he told them. Lack of knowledge makes a whole lot of things easier for crafty people.

He wasn't wrong. And he wasn't just talking about journalists. Most people literally know nothing about history. And along with losing foundations in history, public schools no longer teach rhetoric or critical thinking. So people don't know what they don't know, and don't know what that means.

Cracking foundations
If Americans had solid foundations in our history, things like what's happened to Thomas Jefferson wouldn't happen. When museums such as Monticello turn away from much of Thomas Jefferson's life and his ideas to focus on s***ery, this distorts history. Soon enough, the city he lived in and founded a major university in v**es to stop acknowledging his birthday. They're erasing him from history. The fact that Jefferson is among those responsible for their even having the right to v**e is entirely lost on them. Jefferson was like everyone else in that he was a man of his times, and he was imperfect. But today, he must be denounced as irredeemable based entirely on the flawed thinking of our times.

Just in the past few months we have seen the political landscape shift dramatically. The Democrats now have a spiritual if not e*******l leader, Bernie Sanders. Sanders won't win the nomination but he has d**gged his party hard to the left, to the point that their entire p**********l field is endorsing some version of the following platform.

• "Free" healthcare. Some of them have endorsed free, meaning taxpayer-funded, healthcare for non-citizens. Think about the implications of that
• "Free" education. Again, meaning redistributive and taxpayer-funded.
• Some version of nationalizing energy policy, either a fracking ban or something along the lines of national policy. Think about the economic and national security implications of that, with a war brewing in the Middle East (again).
• Andrew Yang is promising to pay millions of Americans a "universal wage" -- create dependence, via confiscation and redistribution.
• Beto O'Rourke is a special case. He's promising to disarm Americans, destroy our churches and force wealthy Americans out of their homes. You may think "I'm not wealthy, so why should I care?" The definition of "wealthy" being elastic, this could mean a whole lot of people would get shoved around at gunpoint under a Beto regime. Including you. Like Sanders, O'Rourke won't win. But he is shifting issues left in that his fellow Democrats will not condemn him.
• Ban all f****l f**ls. How? And what would this do to our economy?
• Open borders.
• They're gathering around these proposals under the guise of "ending income ine******y."

Ending income ine******y is literally impossible. It cannot be done, ever, under any human circumstance. Some people will always make more money than some other people. You have rich and poor people in capitalist countries, and you have rich and poor people in c*******t and socialist countries. The main difference is, the rich in the c*******t and socialist countries are more likely to have openly k**led and stolen from large numbers of people to acquire their wealth. They're less likely to create something of value and profit from that, because socialist and c*******t systems either strongly curb or outright ban private property and profit. There's more blood in the treasure chests of rich c*******ts and socialists.

And there are more billionaires, millionaires and thousandaires in capitalist countries. Everything gets democratized under capitalism. Everything gets centralized into the hands of the powerful few under socialism/c*******m. It's just common sense. That's how the different systems literally work.

Power corrupts
Fidel Castro died a very rich man -- almost a billionaire. Cuba is an extremely poor country thanks to him. Hugo Chavez died a very rich man -- half a billionaire. Chavez destroyed Venezuela, which as recently as the 1990s was the third-richest country in the Americas. It's not anymore. These aren't faraway places. They're in our neighborhood. Cuba is closer to Florida than Austin is to Dallas.

China's c*******t rulers are getting filthy rich right now.

How. Does. This. Happen. under regimes that bill themselves as offering economic e******y and ending "income ine******y"?

Once you seize power in a centralist system you're free to take wh**ever you want from whoever has it. Who's to stop you? You "nationalize" industries, meaning you grab them and treat them as piggy banks. You kick everyone who speaks out against you square in the face, mock and ostracize them, run them out of the country, de-platform them by controlling the media, imprison and torture them, or line them up and shoot them.

That's exactly what Castro did, and he had henchmen like Che Guevara to help him. It's what Chavez did and Maduro is still doing in Venezuela. This is less history than current events, but absent context and the means to process, it's too easy to ignore or distort.

Red platform
The Democrats' emerging platform appears to be a mix of two recent, modern regimes -- that of Venezuela, and that of the Khmer Rouge. Both regimes are modern horrors. The former has been publicly praised by the likes of Bernie Sanders and Robert Kennedy Jr. The latter sounds like a makeup line pitched by the Kardashians and probably 95% of Americans have never even heard of it. Johnny Depp and other Hollywood derps run around wearing Che shirts. Probably 99% of Americans have no idea who Pol Pot was or what evil things he did, or the influence of Chinese c*******m on him. He's not a brand of legalized Colorado cannabis. He forcibly relocated people, stole their property and k**led them -- k*****g about 25% of his country in about three years. If you've ever met a Cambodian living in the United States, you have probably met someone Pol Pot was trying to k**l.

Hugo Chavez ran on a platform pretty much identical to Sanders' and now most Democrats'. Chavez's platform was:

• End income ine******y
• Make education free
• Make electricity free (by nationalizing it)
• Get rid of privately owned guns to "improve security"

He promised free stuff -- safety and security. He won. And He proceeded to enrich himself, disarm the people, crush dissent and destroy his country. Every single one of these newly minted Democratic socialists in the United States is wealthy. Sanders is a millionaire who owns three houses. Even former bartender AOC now gets $300 haircuts and wants a raise on top of her very high congressional salary. Sanders isn't sharing his wealth. None of these Democrats are. But they'll happily confiscate and "share" yours.

The price of knowing nothing
Texas fought a whole revolution over just this idea -- centralist government or federalist (republican) government. Thankfully the latter won. But hardly anyone is aware of this, and the left will rewrite that story the first chance they get and turn it into a war over race and class -- not ideas. The left won't forget the Alamo, they'll just remember it incorrectly. Or do we think the same forces denouncing Jefferson now don't have designs on the Alamo, Gettysburg, Mount Vernon, Yorktown... wherever the American story can be destroyed? Of course they do. They've already attacked the national anthem and the Betsy Ross f**g.

Because millions know nothing, warnings about what's happened in the past or now don't work. Thomas Jefferson is worse than that Cambodian dictator they've never heard of. The National Basketball Association should've been more specific with the "national" part of its branding. Which nation do they belong to now? This past week they've enforced speech codes on behalf of Maoist c*******t China. Golden State (social justice) Warriors coach Steve Kerr, an outspoken critic of the United States, refused to criticize China's abysmal human rights record. They've been joined by Apple and Blizzard. Right now, Hong Kong may be the most important city in the world. But too many Americans who know nothing don't understand that, and are happily selling it out for Chinese money.

History is not dusty books and broken swords and statues without arms and noses. History is how we got where we are -- and it's often a foreboding warning. In modern times it's a stream of events from the bloody French Revolution through Marx and Engels to the Cold War and the K*****g Fields to Havana and Caracas to prisons full of Chinese dissidents being harvested for organs, to statements coming out of the mouths of people who, without irony, refer to themselves as social justice warriors and "Democrats."

Socialism should be exposed for what it is and will always be: a mix of greed, lust, envy and s***ery. If you are not allowed to own property, if you are not allowed to keep the fruit of your ideas and labors -- you are ens***ed. That is the ultimate promise of socialism.

But because we teach nothing, we know nothing. And that stands a strong chance of costing us everything.
b We Teach Nothing, We Know Nothing—And That Coul... (show quote)


Oh what a wicked web they weave, when first they practice to deceive... For the last 20-30 yrs liberalism has been real busy, doing a little weaving here..and then there..while slowly setting up their politically corrupt-I mean correct stage. (While the rest of our politicians sat around and did nothing-this was the birth of the Washington swamp) Your posted story accurately highlites many of their accomplishments. Liberalism is like rust..it never sleeps..and it will ultimately destroy everything it touches.

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Oct 18, 2019 22:54:55   #
Mike Easterday
 
It looks like the libs want to live in North Korea. They should just pack up and move there.

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Oct 18, 2019 23:26:16   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
milamber wrote:
agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder how easy it would be to convince folks term limits might not be necessary if we just did away with the 17th amendment. Six years between e******ns is too long for someone in Washington to be untouched by the v**ers. Period.

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