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Shifty Schiff Admits Secret Testimony Aimed at Keeping the President in the Dark
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Oct 15, 2019 17:49:24   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BigMike wrote:
I've hear lies thousands of times

repeating like chimes

I'm sooo tired!


Same!

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Oct 15, 2019 17:53:31   #
Tug484
 
byronglimish wrote:
That's the epitome of deranged.


Definitely!

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Oct 15, 2019 19:11:46   #
teabag09
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats live by the end justifies the means, therefore, they believe fairness, the rule of law, t***sparency, and the Constitution do not apply ti them.


Yeah, BUT WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS??? A pox on both houses. Mike

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Oct 15, 2019 21:29:53   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
They are trying to protect the whistle blower and National security. How about we give the country a fair shake?


the only reason there is to protect anything is to cover their butts the whistleblower's claims have already been proved lie and said whistleblower will probably go to jail along with a lot of others

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Oct 15, 2019 21:33:06   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
teabag09 wrote:
Yeah, BUT WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS??? A pox on both houses. Mike


The Dems have only allowed a couple of republicans into observe only the rest lockout of process all of this is not following protocol and is against the constitution

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Oct 15, 2019 22:07:51   #
Tug484
 
bggamers wrote:
The Dems have only allowed a couple of republicans into observe only the rest lockout of process all of this is not following protocol and is against the constitution


Amen.
You sure can't convince the lefties of that.

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Oct 16, 2019 09:59:41   #
Gizard
 
Kevyn wrote:
You have a stupefying lack of understanding of due process and the constitutional role of checks and balances. This is not a trial, it is an investigation. Investigators have no obligation to even let the suspect know they are being investigated. The closed door testimony is similar to grand jury testimony and is done in closed session with the witnesses precluded from discussing the process to prevent witness tampering and obstruction of justice. The investigation is being done by the textbook, and this abject crap about your I***t Pumpkinfuhrer being denied due process is nonsense, he is being handled with kid gloves.
You have a stupefying lack of understanding of due... (show quote)


Now you are really being AMBIGUOUS ! The accused has a constitutional right to know who is accusing him/her. This whole thing is just another FABRICATION ! There really is no "WHISTLE BLOWER" until the "WHISTLE BLOWER" is identified. The "WHISTLE BLOWER" would be given protection. And the ANTAGONISTS can't even agree on what constitutes "witness tampering and obstruction of justice" !

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Oct 16, 2019 10:09:30   #
Radiance3
 
BigMike wrote:
Trump isn't really in danger of impeachment until they v**e...and the Dems are screwed whether they do or don't at this point.

What are the possible outcomes?

If they have a v**e and win OR lose Trump will immediately declassify a bunch of stuff they desperately don't want known...this you can bank on. Plus it then goes to a Senate trial...can you imagine what would happen to them in a Senate trial! Discovery...witnesses...under oath...televised!

Unfortunately for them they've promised the fruitcake base things they have no ability to deliver on and whipped them into foaming i***ts at the same time.


They'd keep pretending they're impeaching Trump until 2020 except T***p w*n't let them and neither will their foaming base.

They have to appease the noisy foaming base until after the primary, and Trump will use soundbite after soundbite against them in a general e******n even though he probably won't have to, these people are so weak.

Bad for Dems. They've built their narrative and lives like the foolish man who built his house on the sand.

And no matter what they do declassification will remain ongoing...timing controlled by Trump.
Trump isn't really in danger of impeachment until ... (show quote)

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I think the radical DEMS must wait for 13 more months and let the people decide. Their purpose of impeachment is futile, but destroying the image of the president in the minds of the v**ers, so they perhaps choose and v**e for the socialist-democrat to the WH. It is not going to happen. They are desperate, use all kinds of fraudulent tactics including illegal v****g at the b****t boxes.

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Oct 16, 2019 10:17:03   #
JediKnight
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
It seems to me that Nixon and Bill Clinton got a 'fair shake' when it came to 'due process'. Not happening with President Trump. What is wrong with these people? They talk about a fair, constitutional process and then pull this crap. They ARE a joke. And the American e*****rate knows it. This whole process is basically OVER because it's not going to go anywhere in the Senate. Do you think 53 (R) Senators are going to allow this to go forward. It's basically over....except for maybe the theatrics. https://www.teaparty.org/shifty-schiff-admits-secret-testimony-aimed-at-keeping-president-trump-in-the-dark-video-413496/ Schiff will LEAK anything that appears to be negative in the grand scheme of things, but this whole process STINKS.
It seems to me that Nixon and Bill Clinton got a '... (show quote)


Did you feel the same way when republicans held closed door hearings and would not admit the democrats? Or how about when the republicans lied and told the dems that there would be no v**e on a recent bill, then when the dems went on their scheduled break, the republicans held the v**e without telling anyone else? Hypocrisy seems very strong with you.

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Oct 16, 2019 10:24:18   #
Proudemocrat Loc: To your left.
 
It seems to me that the Democrats are s**k of the Republicans playing the stupid card. You will be notified of what the Democrats are doing when the Democrats (the ones in charge!) deem that as how it will be. Give it up, you might be stupid, but you aren't that stupid!

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Oct 16, 2019 10:51:39   #
teabag09
 
bggamers wrote:
The Dems have only allowed a couple of republicans into observe only the rest lockout of process all of this is not following protocol and is against the constitution


I understand that. My point is why aren't the Republicans screaming bloody murder. Why aren't they doing what the dims would do and take this to the courts? If even only the court of public opinion. There are a few Republicans who are standing up, but damn few. Mike

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Oct 16, 2019 10:51:43   #
waltmoreno
 
Kevyn wrote:
You have a stupefying lack of understanding of due process and the constitutional role of checks and balances. This is not a trial, it is an investigation. Investigators have no obligation to even let the suspect know they are being investigated. The closed door testimony is similar to grand jury testimony and is done in closed session with the witnesses precluded from discussing the process to prevent witness tampering and obstruction of justice. The investigation is being done by the textbook, and this abject crap about your I***t Pumpkinfuhrer being denied due process is nonsense, he is being handled with kid gloves.
You have a stupefying lack of understanding of due... (show quote)


Except that in a grand jury proceeding, nobody is aware of the ongoing proceedings until it's over and an indictment is returned. And we already know in advance that Pelosi doesn't even have the v**es w/i the Dem party to get an impeachment to the Senate where a supermajority is needed to convict. That's laughable.
So why is it that the news coverage is about the illegal so-called impeachment inquiry is on 24/7? It's not supposed to even be public.
The answer is simple. Pelosi is trying to squeeze out wh**ever advantage she can out of these one-sided, lopsided proceedings by garnering wh**ever publicity she can before she shuts them down, since she'll never dare open an official impeachment since the Republicans would have the right of subpoena and cross examination, which she'll never allow.

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Oct 16, 2019 10:52:10   #
hdjimv Loc: South Dakota
 
Proudemocrat wrote:
It seems to me that the Democrats are s**k of the Republicans playing the stupid card. You will be notified of what the Democrats are doing when the Democrats (the ones in charge!) deem that as how it will be. Give it up, you might be stupid, but you aren't that stupid!


Now that there is funny! You guys are a laugh a minute. MAGA

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Oct 16, 2019 11:00:27   #
Radiance3
 
JediKnight wrote:
Did you feel the same way when republicans held closed door hearings and would not admit the democrats? Or how about when the republicans lied and told the dems that there would be no v**e on a recent bill, then when the dems went on their scheduled break, the republicans held the v**e without telling anyone else? Hypocrisy seems very strong with you.


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I can't stand this. I have to reply because this Jihad is talking non-sense, the opposite of the facts.

The republicans during the impeachment of Bill Clinton, honestly and faithfully, followed all the protocols of impeachment; laid out the case for impeachment; brought to Congress Justice investigative Committee for hearing where both parties able to challenge and prove their case. Then approved for the 435 representative to v**e the impeachment. Majority in Congress decided to impeach.

Whereas for president Trump, it was only Schitt and Pelosi making decisions to impeach. The minority party deprived to challenge and ask questions. Fact was GOP Congressman Matt Gaets was booted out from the Justice Committee. These two districts in California making decisions in secret, and bypassed the 433 districts. We are a representative government. All make the decision, not dictated by 2 people like Schiff and Pelosi. Their process is illegal and unconstitutional. Their impeachment is null and void. Could not be brought for hearing at the Senate.

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Oct 16, 2019 11:04:24   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Except that in a grand jury proceeding, nobody is aware of the ongoing proceedings until it's over and an indictment is returned. And we already know in advance that Pelosi doesn't even have the v**es w/i the Dem party to get an impeachment to the Senate where a supermajority is needed to convict. That's laughable.
So why is it that the news coverage is about the illegal so-called impeachment inquiry is on 24/7? It's not supposed to even be public.
The answer is simple. Pelosi is trying to squeeze out wh**ever advantage she can out of these one-sided, lopsided proceedings by garnering wh**ever publicity she can before she shuts them down, since she'll never dare open an official impeachment since the Republicans would have the right of subpoena and cross examination, which she'll never allow.
Except that in a grand jury proceeding, nobody is ... (show quote)


All may be true. The fact is she doesn't have to hold a v**e. And she can allow her committees to investigate. It's a pretty forceful political response to an administration that thinks it answers to no one.
That's the role of 'the opposition'. Judging by all the caterwauling from the right, she's doing a pretty decent job of reminding the President that he is not the only locus of power in the federal government.

She's a crafty old girl.

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