Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

1st, please show us, your enthralled audience, where God ever said absolutely anything in English, labeling Himself with a language in Scripture that had not yet been invented?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Do the terms "Triune" or "Trinity" appear in the Bible in other languages?

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Of course not. It’s a subterfuge from a person cornered in desperation. She must think Trinitarians have the authority to rewrite history, rewrite the Bible, and rewrite the collective Jewish conscience which has been reciting the shema for millennia! or that’s what she wants us to believe. You can’t change the fact that the Trinity was hammered out between the 2nd and 4th centuries using pagan and gnostic words and concepts, the idea of multiple persons in the godhead being the biggest of them all, but by no means the only one. So what Trinitarians are guilty of is called an anachronism: reading back in time a doctrine they would have been totally unaware of.

Mass self-deception and false indoctrination on a grandiose scale.

One of the devil’s trademarks seems to be that if he can convince enough others of his error, he must be justified. Why else would he be on a mission to deceive? And the trinity is his greatest hoax since the Garden! Apparently Zemiriah thinks if she can quote enough people that go along with their idolatry that must make it so. Is there a name for that logical fallacy?

I’ll have to make time later, Lord willing, for a proper response to her posts.

Rose42

Does the term abortion? Yet we know its wrong. It doesn't have to appear explicitly.

This is explicit yet you still deny it -

"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

The Bible speaks out against abortion...Pretty sure Tommy schooled you on that way back on your first exchange with him..

Regardless... Abortion is not a key tenet to the Christian belief... The Trinity kind of is... To you at least...

Your last quote supports the Unitarian belief...

Rose42

I know the bible speaks out against it but not explicitly. You've become quite the little cheerleader. Lol

And no, my last quote doesn't support the unitarian belief - not even close. But you don't believe it anyway which only proves that where there is a belief in one false doctrine there is always a belief in at least one other.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I am a great cheer leader...

Wear my Trump 2020 hat with pride.. And my MAGA hat before that...(remember I live in China )



And I absolutely believe that verse... I thought I sent you a PM concerning it? Plus I posted it once in response to you... I could do so again if you don't recall?

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

The very fact you can’t discern the magnitude in difference (both in definition and moral equivalence) between the concept of “abortion” and the concept of God being emphatically one “Him” (Greek “autos”), speaks volumes!!!

When God NAMES Himself in two ways, YHVH, and “I am that I am”, that explicitly proclaims a single being, “one”, in a way that entirely excludes the idea of multiple persons within the makeup uf “Himself”, and then establishes an entire nation around that commandment, eccentric going so far as to claim the people off this nation were His unique witnesses, and then have His own Son come and confirm those people understood what God meant by that first commandment, that’s a little bit more than a whole lot of more importance than debating comparing the word “abortion” is or isn’t in the Bible.

What nation did God create to whom He told them His first commandment was “thou shalt not abort your children”?

What nation did God create that sent His prophets to constantly warn them of their impending doom if they didn’t stop aborting their babies?

What nation did God create who were sent to Babylon for their practice of murdering their babies?

What nation did God create whom He accused of going to harlots and playing the prostitute for murdering their babies?

What your statement reveals is what little regard you have for the most important commandment ever given among mankind under heaven.

Your comment reveals conclusively that you feel you, or your “theologians” have the authority to rename God Himself and redefine God’s most important commandment based on human reasoning and forbidden categories of thought from paganism.

“22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, lord, have we not in thy name prophesied? and in thy name cast out demons? and in thy name done many mighty things? 23and then I will acknowledge to them, that — I never knew you, depart from me ye who are working lawlessness.” Matthew 7:22-23

That would be you trinitarians who practice lawlessness in breaking the foremost commandment.

Keeping the foremost commandment means everything else, every other thought, concept, commandment or person, is to be subjected under it.

But you Trinitarians turn the first commandment on its head by thinking you have the authority to redefine it based on what seems right to you. And therefore you look high and wide for every possible justification for negating it...and condemn those who don’t go along with you in your idolatry.

You Trinitarians are practicing lawlessness by breaking God’s foremost law!

Rose42

Yes I remember now. If you did believe it then you would not believe there are multiple paths to God through other religions.

The best way to research the answer to what if one has never heard of Jesus is to do a search and read what various pastors have to say on the subject. RC Sproul comes to mind.

Everyone knows by creation

Romans 1:20 -
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

And everyone knows by conscience. Everyone knows there is a God. Its man’s nature to rebel against God.

Those who have heard about Jesus have one path to God. Those who have not will be judged fairly.

Deuteronomy 32:4 -
The Rock, His works are perfect,
for all His ways are justice.
A God of faithfulness and without iniquity,
just and upright is He.

Those who seek Him will find Him.

Deuteronomy 4:29 -
But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.

If I were you I’d look at multiple sources. Thats what I did because as many others, I used to think it wasn’t fair.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Everything we know about the Triune God of Creation, the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob, the God who has revealed Himself to us in Holy Scripture, is through the inspired Words of the second person of the Godhead, Jesus Christ, who is The Word of God, the Father, as His Words were relayed to God's Prophets by God, the Holy Spirit.

Your mind's inability to grasp this reality does not in anyway change reality.

Though you repeatedly grasp the serpent's "crafty" approach in the Garden of Eden, and hiss "Did God really say?," with your spiritually undiscerned, channeled, "automatic" typing of meaningless page after page, your despair remains.

- for He who comes to God must believe that He is... (Hebrew 11:6)

Your refusal to accept Him as He is because you find it too complicated to adjust the limitations you have self-imposed upon your finite mind does not change the Triune God in anyway. He is who He is.

Any hammering to be done will be done by the Almighty Triune "I AM" who has revealed Himself to mankind as He is.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Canuckus,

What your altar ego does not apprehend is the concept is unavoidable and unchangeable to all those who have eyes to see.

According to Ethnologue, there are currently 7,099 living languages in the world.
At least one portion of Scripture has been translated for 3,312 of these languages.
The New Testament is available in 1,521 languages, with portions in 1,121.
The complete Bible has been translated into 670 languages.*.

Again, the Triune God is present in every one of them to he who has eyes to see.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Alter ego

Taking that as a compliment

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I have looked at multiple sources...Hence my understanding

I think we are in agreement here

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

“Triune I am” is an oxymoron, in addition to it being antibiblical and anti”Christ”ian.

Just like “eternally begotten” is an oxymoron. So is “eternal son”. All are antibiblical and antichristian. But then, the whole trinity is based on an oxymoron, so it isn’t surprising.

So by what do you claim to believe in “one God” Zemirah, if not Constantine’s ( the legal heir of Satan’s, that is) homoousious?

And why do you think it’s okay that Satan’s legal heir provided the term and concept by which you can even claim to believe a three-person God is somehow still “one” “I am that I am”?

Rose42

Maybe...it does mean that islam is a path to destruction as are all false religions. One will not find God there.