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Sep 29, 2019 22:03:08   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
eden wrote:
Sorry but that’s absolutist nonsense. The Green New Deal is just a step in the right direction. But who is “they”? Nobody I know on both sides of the aisle wants this country to be “defenseless, poor and governed by some g*******t socialist leader”. There is a silent majority made up of decent people from the center of all parties who want a strong defense, the income gap narrowed, affordable uncomplicated health care, proper environmental protections and a reduction in authoritarian demagoguery.
Sorry but that’s absolutist nonsense. The Green Ne... (show quote)


Step in the right direction for the stupid, misinformed, purposely ignorant and those who like being ripped off.

Step in the right direction for the fetal-stem-cell-smoothie sucking cannibals who run the Dem leadership...and their foreign puppetmasters.

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Sep 29, 2019 22:53:41   #
eden
 
BigMike wrote:
Step in the right direction for the stupid, misinformed, purposely ignorant and those who like being ripped off.

Step in the right direction for the fetal-stem-cell-smoothie sucking cannibals who run the Dem leadership...and their foreign puppetmasters.


Okaaaaay.....

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Sep 29, 2019 23:14:27   #
EmilyD
 
eden wrote:
I'm not going to defend Obama and I am not a Democrat but what exactly is a "global nation"? Nationalism is very tricky because it tends to ignore or marginalize First Nation native Americans and minorities and that is not popular on the Left, the Middle and some on the Right. Trump tries to destroy anything that Obama touched because he has ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). If the Green New Deal was the answer to a global environmental crisis that some say it is, the money would appear as needed, just as it did after the great depression of the 30's, just as it did when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, just as it would if there was a planet destroying meteor headed for NYC. Medicare for all is a deal that everyone should get behind as a public option. Make it cheap (100.00 per month?) and allow private medical as an option for those who can afford it. Totally free Tuition is a bad idea because students would widely abuse it and degrees would be devalued. Better if it cost somewhere near junior college with Govt. subsidizing the rest. No money fairies needed.
I'm not going to defend Obama and I am not a Democ... (show quote)

Your fist sentence question "What exactly is a global nation?" shows just how much you don't understand what is going on.

http://www.worldbeyondborders.org/globalnation.htm

The global left says that globalization is stitching nations together and national sovereignty is tearing nations apart. Do we really want a One World Government where no nation has their own government? Don't you get it? It's not hard to understand.

That article was in 1992...it's more "hidden" by the media and left today, but very prevalent today.

http://global-nation.com/

https://twitter.com/globalnation?lang=en

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Sep 30, 2019 00:53:17   #
eden
 
EmilyD wrote:
Your fist sentence question "What exactly is a global nation?" shows just how much you don't understand what is going on.

http://www.worldbeyondborders.org/globalnation.htm

The global left says that globalization is stitching nations together and national sovereignty is tearing nations apart. Do we really want a One World Government where no nation has their own government? Don't you get it? It's not hard to understand.

That article was in 1992...it's more "hidden" by the media and left today, but very prevalent today.

http://global-nation.com/

https://twitter.com/globalnation?lang=en
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My question was to get you to define which propaganda definition of “global world” you cling to because I have not heard a serious proposal from either side to dissolve borders and “stitch”nations together. That sounds like the old Soviet experiment (that failed) and the trend now is away from that model, even in the European Union where sovereignty is prized, especially in the Baltic Republics who were formally under the Russian thumb.
I suggest you talk more with the group you despise and listen instead of buying into these
theories that take comments out of context
and distort them to fit a narrative that is designed to divide people and gin up fear.
This goes for both sides but more for the Right who seem particularly susceptible to cultural grievances.

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Sep 30, 2019 05:41:03   #
tophat
 
Bcon wrote:
Coming from you, that is probably the most intelligent expression you can muster. Is nothing that is wrong with the running of this country important to you except trying to bring Trump down? Hillary is going to run again. No matter how corrupt she is I am sure you will back her. This country needs a massive enema to get rid of you and the likes of you whose only interest is not for America’s good, but putting democrat c*******ts in office, no matter how much harm they will bring. Look at the situation now,complete chaos caused by Demo extremism. You wallow in it and yawn.
Coming from you, that is probably the most intelli... (show quote)


A very BIG AMEN!!

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Sep 30, 2019 06:10:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
eden wrote:
I'm not going to defend Obama and I am not a Democrat but what exactly is a "global nation"? Nationalism is very tricky because it tends to ignore or marginalize First Nation native Americans and minorities and that is not popular on the Left, the Middle and some on the Right. Trump tries to destroy anything that Obama touched because he has ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). If the Green New Deal was the answer to a global environmental crisis that some say it is, the money would appear as needed, just as it did after the great depression of the 30's, just as it did when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, just as it would if there was a planet destroying meteor headed for NYC. Medicare for all is a deal that everyone should get behind as a public option. Make it cheap (100.00 per month?) and allow private medical as an option for those who can afford it. Totally free Tuition is a bad idea because students would widely abuse it and degrees would be devalued. Better if it cost somewhere near junior college with Govt. subsidizing the rest. No money fairies needed.
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100 dollars a month from 200 million people... works out to 2,000,000,000 a month... first twelve months that is 24 trillion dollars... Seems doable... Yet your nation is currently bleeding money like a stuck pig.... People complain about a 1.3 trillion dollar spending bill....

How can this be?

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Sep 30, 2019 07:27:12   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
100 dollars a month from 200 million people... works out to 2,000,000,000 a month... first twelve months that is 24 trillion dollars... Seems doable... Yet your nation is currently bleeding money like a stuck pig.... People complain about a 1.3 trillion dollar spending bill....

How can this be?



Kyle, I believe you have omitted 3 zeros in your computation. Or added 3 zeros in your results. A 2 with 9 zeros is 2 billions not trillions.

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Sep 30, 2019 08:50:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Kyle, I believe you have omitted 3 zeros in your computation. Or added 3 zeros in your results. A 2 with 9 zeros is 2 billions not trillions.


Should have read 20,000,000,000... Which would add up to 2.4 trillion...

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Sep 30, 2019 09:56:39   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Should have read 20,000,000,000... Which would add up to 2.4 trillion...


Actually, I'm getting $240 billions per year, but who's counting?

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Sep 30, 2019 10:14:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Actually, I'm getting $240 billions per year, but who's counting?


Math and alcohol don't mix

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Sep 30, 2019 10:33:27   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Math and alcohol don't mix


I'll drink to that!

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Sep 30, 2019 15:04:29   #
Abel
 
eden wrote:
I'm not going to defend Obama and I am not a Democrat but what exactly is a "global nation"? Nationalism is very tricky because it tends to ignore or marginalize First Nation native Americans and minorities and that is not popular on the Left, the Middle and some on the Right. Trump tries to destroy anything that Obama touched because he has ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome). If the Green New Deal was the answer to a global environmental crisis that some say it is, the money would appear as needed, just as it did after the great depression of the 30's, just as it did when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, just as it would if there was a planet destroying meteor headed for NYC. Medicare for all is a deal that everyone should get behind as a public option. Make it cheap (100.00 per month?) and allow private medical as an option for those who can afford it. Totally free Tuition is a bad idea because students would widely abuse it and degrees would be devalued. Better if it cost somewhere near junior college with Govt. subsidizing the rest. No money fairies needed.
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What a load of crap you excrete.

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Sep 30, 2019 15:27:28   #
EmilyD
 
Abel wrote:
What a load of crap you excrete.

Right? Now they're using "ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome)"!!! Next they're going to start calling themselves "deplorables"! The Dems are in a panic because the IG report is coming out...they're so desperate it's pathetic.

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Sep 30, 2019 16:11:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
eden wrote:
Okaaaaay.....


Glad you see it my way!

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Sep 30, 2019 16:12:04   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
eden wrote:
Sorry but that’s absolutist nonsense. The Green New Deal is just a step in the right direction. But who is “they”? Nobody I know on both sides of the aisle wants this country to be “defenseless, poor and governed by some g*******t socialist leader”. There is a silent majority made up of decent people from the center of all parties who want a strong defense, the income gap narrowed, affordable uncomplicated health care, proper environmental protections and a reduction in authoritarian demagoguery.
Sorry but that’s absolutist nonsense. The Green Ne... (show quote)


If you still believe there is ANYTHING that we can do about c*****e c****e, speak to China the biggest polluter on earth. Yes there is a silent majority, that's how Trump was elected. We haven't changed our minds because of propaganda. Everything that you've mentioned is there for the taking. A friend in a socialist country was trying to get a bed in a hospital 2 weeks ago, she finally got one today. That's reminiscent of the old VAs-ones before 2016.

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