When impeachment meets a broken Congress: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/27/impeachment-trump-congress-house-228346 This is a long article, but worth the read. Also a...

debeda

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/27/impeachment-trump-congress-house-228346

This is a long article, but worth the read. Also a very bipartisan post, there are the obligatory insults against President Trump embedded. But the assessment of the state of Congress is eye opening. And appalling.

Lonewolf

debeda wrote:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/27/impeachment-trump-congress-house-228346

This is a long article, but worth the read. Also a very bipartisan post, there are the obligatory insults against President Trump embedded. But the assessment of the state of Congress is eye opening. And appalling.

Good artical if we had a working congress we would ent be in the mess were in.
Congress is supposed to represent the people which it hasn't done in a long time to the power in our country is really invested in Congress and not the presidency and all the measures we need to take to correct this problem cannot be accomplished by Congress. That's why I have been saying for months on OPP we can't v**e ourselves out of this mess. It's kind of funny though Lindsey Graham address the Senate during the Clinton impeachment is that a president. didn't even have to commit a crime and it wasn't so much about removing him from office as it was cleansing the Office of the President of the United States. Course today he sings very different tune the only way I can see possible as for the American people get smart enough to v**e all the incumbents out of office try to start a new

Owl32 Loc: ARK

Lonewolf wrote:

Good artical if we had a working congress we would... (show quote)

Clean slate , strange every 2 years we have the opportunity to send them home but most of the time we choose not , WHY?

debeda

Lonewolf wrote:

Good artical if we had a working congress we would... (show quote)

And add TERM LIMITS!! Congress members would be far less likely to roll over and join the corruption if they saw a term of service as a boon on their resume, or a way to serve after retirement, rather than a long term career choice, IMO

bggamers Loc: georgia

debeda wrote:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/27/impeachment-trump-congress-house-228346

This is a long article, but worth the read. Also a very bipartisan post, there are the obligatory insults against President Trump embedded. But the assessment of the state of Congress is eye opening. And appalling.

Well, we knew it was a mess and that article pretty much puts the cherry on top. Like I've said push them all out start over

debeda

Owl32 wrote:

Clean slate , strange every 2 years we have the opportunity to send them home but most of the time we choose not , WHY?

Beats the heck out of me. V**er apathy?

debeda

bggamers wrote:

Well, we knew it was a mess and that article pretty much puts the cherry on top. Like I've said push them all out start over

I agree. Term limits!

Owl32 Loc: ARK

debeda wrote:

And add TERM LIMITS!! Congress members would be far less likely to roll over and join the corruption if they saw a term of service as a boon on their resume, or a way to serve after retirement, rather than a long term career choice, IMO

Yes, no more than 3 terms, take away PENSIONS, being elected is not a permanent JOB only temporary as it was intended by founders.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Lonewolf wrote:

Good artical if we had a working congress we would... (show quote)

You seem to forget that Clinton was found guilty of about four crimes but wasn't charged with impeachment because the majority in the House was clearly Democratic, just as it is today. That led for the downfall of the Republican party in the next e******n. You people on the left should take the advice of others, to not go down the road to impeachment at this time.

debeda

Owl32 wrote:

Yes, no more than 3 terms, take away PENSIONS, being elected is not a permanent JOB only temporary as it was intended by founders.

Also staff limits!

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Lonewolf wrote:

Congress is supposed to represent the people....

Well, That's The IDEA
As Idealized In About 3 James Stewart Movies
But T***h Be Told
V****g For A Candidate
Just Validates Their Opinions And World View
And If They Really Try To Be Otherwise (TEA)
D.C., And The MSM, Will Fix That In Short Order

And That's The Rest Of The Story....

Lonewolf

bggamers wrote:

Well, we knew it was a mess and that article pretty much puts the cherry on top. Like I've said push them all out start over

Lonewolf

debeda wrote:

I agree. Term limits!

And make lobbying a felony and like many many companies in America make it illegal for them to take anything I'm glad you not a pencil not a pen not a piece of paper nothing no Insider stock tips nothing

debeda

Lonewolf wrote:

And make lobbying a felony and like many many companies in America make it illegal for them to take anything I'm glad you not a pencil not a pen not a piece of paper nothing no Insider stock tips nothing

Iliamna1

Owl32 wrote:

Yes, no more than 3 terms, take away PENSIONS, being elected is not a permanent JOB only temporary as it was intended by founders.

I'd say no more than 2 terms for senators and 3 or the House. And outlaw these ridiculous pensions and MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR ANY OF THEM TO EVER BE A LOBBYIST, EVER.