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Oct 1, 2019 22:02:03   #
Chamuco
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Thanks for explaining your position.
We have some things in common.

I explained my position on another thread:
I do go after the Republicans also.
Trump, IMO, outshines Hillary and fellow Democrats (Pelosi, Schumer, Shiftless, Maxine to name a few) by a huge margin.

I am pretty much a libertarian/constitutionalist. Anti-NWO.
AND both parties have served that agenda.
Trump not so much.

I have v**ed independent/3'rd party my whole life until Ron Paul got the Republican nominattion.
The sold out RNC , NeoCONS and controlled Lame Stream Media kept Ron Paul from getting the nomination, and a win over the Democrats.

For anyone that doesn't believe me:
The video below shows it all: A compilation of footage that shows the tactics used by the PTB/MSM to Everything from; ignoring, bias, and lies. Even Republican caucus fraud. (see minute21)
http://youtu.be/o_WBo4sfmi4 (This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated)

Soooo, here it is!
https://youtu.be/si4GaQWmdrQ

How Ron Paul Was C***ted Out Of Presidency
https://youtu.be/vB8xzGORB_s
Thanks for explaining your position. br We have so... (show quote)


Well packaged stuff.

I remember Paul's 3 p**********l runs quite well.
I v**ed for him in 1988 when he ran on the Independent Ticket and came in a distant 3rd.., then again in
2008 and 2012 when he got crushed by McCain and Romney in succession.

Believe me.., if I could have pushed a button and Paul would have been president.., I would have
pushed that button.

However.., as to the scenarios presented by your YouTube se******ns.., the best I can do is agree to disagree.

Speaking of Independents.., I've gotta tell you I was extremely disappointed that Rand abandoned the Independent Party moniker.

It's not as if he wouldn't still have sided with the Republicans on most v**es.

It's not as if retaining it would have prevented him from running for the Republican P**********l nomination any more than they use of it prevents Sanders from running for the Democratic nomination.

That fact that Bernie Sanders is allowed to use the "Independent" moniker DEEPLY disturbs me since the Independent Party is a separate, well-established political Party that IN NO WAY includes Sanders political philosophy.

Independent is a Party.., not an adjective.

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Oct 2, 2019 08:54:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Chamuco wrote:
Well packaged stuff.

I remember Paul's 3 p**********l runs quite well.
I v**ed for him in 1988 when he ran on the Independent Ticket and came in a distant 3rd.., then again in
2008 and 2012 when he got crushed by McCain and Romney in succession.

Believe me.., if I could have pushed a button and Paul would have been president.., I would have
pushed that button.

However.., as to the scenarios presented by your YouTube se******ns.., the best I can do is agree to disagree.

Speaking of Independents.., I've gotta tell you I was extremely disappointed that Rand abandoned the Independent Party moniker.

It's not as if he wouldn't still have sided with the Republicans on most v**es.

It's not as if retaining it would have prevented him from running for the Republican P**********l nomination any more than they use of it prevents Sanders from running for the Democratic nomination.

That fact that Bernie Sanders is allowed to use the "Independent" moniker DEEPLY disturbs me since the Independent Party is a separate, well-established political Party that IN NO WAY includes Sanders political philosophy.

Independent is a Party.., not an adjective.
Well packaged stuff. br br I remember Paul's 3 p*... (show quote)


Right on!
I was registered in the American Independent Party.

And v**ed against BOTH parties.
People would tell me I was wasting my v**e, by not falling for the "Fix".

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Oct 2, 2019 10:51:57   #
Chamuco
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Right on!
I was registered in the American Independent Party.

And v**ed against BOTH parties.
People would tell me I was wasting my v**e, by not falling for the "Fix".


Although I can't conclude a "fix" against a candidate who garnered such a relatively small percentage of the v**e.., I understand where you're coming from as to v****g your heart.

Heck.., if it weren't for Americans who felt as you do..,
Bush would have definitely lost to Gore and,
Trump might very well have lost to Clinton.

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Oct 2, 2019 11:17:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Chamuco wrote:
Although I can't conclude a "fix" against a candidate who garnered such a relatively small percentage of the v**e.., I understand where you're coming from as to v****g your heart.

Heck.., if it weren't for Americans who felt as you do..,
Bush would have definitely lost to Gore and,
Trump might very well have lost to Clinton.


Your sarcasm is noted, Cham.
If America woke up to "The Fix" they would actually be given legitimate choices, and not Banker acceptable 'A' or 'B'.


Who has noticed what pals Bush1 and Billy are. Quite a hug fest. Laughing all the way to the bank.
Were we going to be served more of the same from these "two" parties?
The MSM was touting Bush III and Clinton II.
(written in 1992; GHW Bush was running again against Bill Clinton. The 2012 and 2015 updates are in brackets)
Trump beat them, by taking Jeb out early.

Party politics: “The Fix” was in:
The majority of Americans are disgusted with our government “representatives”, and what is happening in America. The frustration has been spreading, this time, Americans did not fall for “The Fix”. It is obvious something had to change; but what? To solve any problem, “the root cause” must be discovered, understood, exposed, and eliminated.
In the realm of politics; exposing “the root cause” of America’s decline on any significant scale, has been unattainable. Almost all major media is directed and controlled by “the root cause” which sets “The Fix”.
Decade after decade, and e******n after e******n; too many v**ers have fallen for “The Fix”. They either didn’t v**e out of disgust; or they v**ed for “the lesser of two evils”. This syndrome has put America where it is today, and evil continues to prosper. Give thought to “The Fix”. The Democratic Party promotes a variety of liberals/socialists, (“progressives”), and the Republican Party promotes a variety of “Conservatives” (old line conservatives, and covert global socialists/NeoCONS; The Bushes and their “New World Order” are two examples). Under both parties, our Constitutional Republic (not democracy), has been decimated. The Constitution and the principles that made our country the most prosperous, and the envy of the world, has been replaced with a semi-covert agenda for global socialism. Few Americans understand the purpose of the g*******t agenda; but most politicians believe in it, or have sold out to it. That is why their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution have been meaningless to most of them.
“The Root Cause” of our country’s decline; is the privately owned Federal Reserve System (banks), and their control of our money and economy. The perpetrators are the Internationalist Banking Cabal, whose policy it is, to create a global socialist “New World Order”.
With their vast wealth, media control (ownership), control of (“public”) education, and control of the party apparatus; they have been able to ensure that both parties nominated candidates that would carry out their agenda. With this control, the people fell for “The Fix”; out of disgust they either didn’t v**e, or they felt compelled to v**e for “the lesser of two evils”, – banker backed “A” or “B”. all other parties were ignored.
The v**ers are told, “no one else can win”, (“don’t Waste your v**e); now the s**m was to convince the v**ers “who is the most electable against Obama”. It had to be someone the Bankers knew they could control, to ensure that their agenda was carried out.). That agenda is a One World totalitarian socialist dictatorship, administered by their front men. I will as concisely as possible back this statement up with their own writings, and try to stir the readers to give this letter thought and thus, renounce the NWO agenda.
Both parties executive cabinets (national security advisors) are filled with members of “the Council on Foreign Relations” (CFR) and “the Trilateral Commission” (TC)). John D. Rockefeller formed the (CFR) in early 1920’s, and David Rockefeller formed the TC in 1973. David Rockefeller’s chief foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, put the organization together for his boss. Jimmy Carter was made a TC founding member. After Carter was elected president, he filled his cabinet with CFR/TC members, with Zbigniew Brzezinski as his chief foreign policy “advisor”. Reagan’s cabinet began with fewer (CFR) members, but many non (CFR) members were drummed out of office. (with the help of the liberal MSM). When Reagan finished office, most were again CFR/TC members. Bush senior is a Trilateralist and 9 of 11 of his national security council are (CFR) members. Bill Clinton is a CFR/TC member, and attended the Bilderberg meeting last year. P. Volker, A. Greenspan, H. Kissinger, Robert Strange McNamara are but a few of the high officials that belong to the CFR, TC, and the Bilderberg Group.
To show where these people and organizations are coming from I quote: TC report #23, 1982 – “… actions at the multinational level will be needed if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion …” (a policy to deindustrialize America) Now; please really reflect on what has happened under both parties CFR/TC administrations and Congresses.
Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in his book, “between two ages” p. 72 (1970) - “Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external active man over the inner passive man, and a victory of reason over belief.” This man, a Democrat and Henry Kissinger, a Republican; both employed by David Rockefeller, and both CFR/TC /Bilderberger members. Both are one world g*******ts (pro Marxist/F*****t, per their own writings). Think about it! Can you see how “The Fix” is ensuring a one world dictatorship, to be ruled by these parasitic elitists?
(Zbigniew Brzezinski (ZB) ( http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard.shtml )

In “Foreign Affairs ”(a CFR publication), April 1974, Richard Gardener, Ambassador to Italy, writes “an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack.”

******* BELOW ARE A FEW QUOTED WARNINGS ON BANKING *******

“If Congress has the right to issue paper money, it was given to them to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.” - President Andrew Jackson (he revoked the U. S. Banking Charter in 1832. (A double misfire at point blank range of an attempted assassination saved his life.)
The Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen.” - Senator Louis T. McFadden, 1934 (chairman of the U. S. Banking and Currency Commission for over 10 years) (probably assassinated; there were several attempts on his life before his suspicious death)

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.” - President Thomas Jefferson
“All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from a lack of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.” - President John Adams
This ignorance still exists by design. (A magnificent cover up, (made possible by both political parties, the LSM, and “public education”). Nothing has changed except the sophistication and advancement of their one world agenda; made possible with the increased corruption, ignorance, and/or cowardice of our “leaders” (politicians). The internationalist bankers and their comrades, promote and fund any government that does their bidding; be it “democracy”, socialistic, c*******tic, dictatorship, or monarchy. For example: Bush senior, just pushed for, and Congress passed extension of “most favored nation status” to C*******t China.
The above forms of government promote the separation of a worker from his earnings through taxation and/or extortion. The constitution would not have allowed this, but it has been covertly circumvented. Understand that the banker’s (and politician’s) trusts and foundations are exempt from the income and inheritance taxes that they impose on American citizens. Also remember that the abolition of private property, a heavy progressive income tax, and abolition of inheritance, are the first three planks of the C*******t Manifesto.
There is not enough space to cover the Bankster’s (and politician’s) political subterfuge with the interconnections of the Bilderberg Group, CFR, TC, CIA, IRS , and tax exempt foundations. Nor their use of their world government apparatus; United Nations, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, NAFTA, WTO, GATA and etc. All used to establish and fund their NEW WORLD ORDER.
(The taxpayers have been held liable for TRILLIONS of “dollars” of the International Banking Cabal’s bad debts. European banks were bailed out via IMF US funding. The exact numbers , and too exactly who, is hidden from Congress. Another reason the Fed must be audited and fired)

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Oct 2, 2019 11:52:10   #
Chamuco
 
To begin with.., there was absolutely nothing "sarcastic" about my reply.

Next.., I have to inform you that I have no interest whatsoever in carrying on dialogues with the long-winded.

I'm of the opinion that any reply that exceeds 100 words [tops] exponentially increases the probability of wandering off-point.

Anyway.., just being honest.

If I wanted to read something that long.., I'd buy a book.

btw: my last sentence was "sarcastic".

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Oct 2, 2019 15:36:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Chamuco wrote:
To begin with.., there was absolutely nothing "sarcastic" about my reply.

Next.., I have to inform you that I have no interest whatsoever in carrying on dialogues with the long-winded.

I'm of the opinion that any reply that exceeds 100 words [tops] exponentially increases the probability of wandering off-point.

Anyway.., just being honest.

If I wanted to read something that long.., I'd buy a book.

btw: my last sentence was "sarcastic".


"If I wanted to read something that long.., I'd buy a book."

Here is a start:
'None Dare Call It Conspiracy' was published and I bought 50 copies at 50 Cents each Then passed them out.
A Primer for those that do not know how the PTB manipulate the v**ers, and control both parties.
https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.pdf

https://hatoffoil.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.pdf

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Oct 2, 2019 17:40:46   #
Chamuco
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"If I wanted to read something that long.., I'd buy a book."

Here is a start:
'None Dare Call It Conspiracy' was published and I bought 50 copies at 50 Cents each Then passed them out.
A Primer for those that do not know how the PTB manipulate the v**ers, and control both parties.
https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.pdf

https://hatoffoil.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy.pdf


Turns out BOTH are over 100 words.
Obviously, you didn't read my concise reply or you
wouldn't expect me read your long-winded one. [24 words]

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Oct 2, 2019 17:45:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Chamuco wrote:
Turns out BOTH are over 100 words.
Obviously, you didn't read my concise reply or you
wouldn't expect me read your long-winded one. [24 words]


Well, I guess simpletons like yourself have no time to do honest research.
Could be scary.

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Oct 2, 2019 17:59:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Chamuco wrote:
I'm thinking that you're either the type who leaps to unfounded conclusions or you're on drugs.

Nice try but.., the fact is that....

I am a 70 year old lifelong Goldwater Republican [my dad was close friends with that great man] who never v**ed for a Democrat in his life.

Despite having a draft number that would have exempted me.., I VOLUNTEERED for Vietnam and served 2 tours.

I'm more pro-Trump than anyone I know and supported him from day one.

I LOVE and proudly wear my red MAGA hat.

HOWEVER..., I respect opposing thought.

The ironic thing is that you think yourself better than the h**eful Libs but.., are actually nothing more than the opposite side of the same h**eful coin.

Try to remember that INSULTS ARE NOT ARGUMENTS.
I'm thinking that you're either the type who leaps... (show quote)
I salute you, sir, for your patriotism, but do not be fooled. The "opposing thought" you claim to respect is based in Soviet police state doctrines, and in this extremely contentious political climate, insults is all you will get from the progressive left. You should be well aware of this by now. Good Lord, just consider the virulent and vicious insults leveled at President Trump, his lovely wife, his children, his staff, his appointees, his friends, his associates and the 63 million Americans who support him. Every damned day, morning, noon and night, the l*****ts are spewing their rage and their h**e toward not just president Trump, but toward you and me.

I can guarantee you will never win an argument with a socialist prog. You may have the undeniable facts, the absolute t***h, and irrefutable evidence to win an honest argument, but the only response you will get is personal attacks. You will be labeled a liar, a r****t, a xenophobe, a homophobe, a N**i, a f*****t, and worse. So, hang tough, buddy. The progs are masters of psychological projection, so the best plan is to simply turn their projections around and shove them in their face.

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Oct 2, 2019 18:25:14   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
'I salute you, sir, for your patriotism, but do not be fooled. The "opposing thought" you claim to respect is based in Soviet police state doctrines, and in this extremely contentious political climate, insults is all you will get from the progressive left. You should be well aware of this by now. Good Lord, just consider the virulent and vicious insults leveled at President Trump, his lovely wife, his children, his staff, his appointees, his friends, his associates and the 63 million Americans who support him. Every damned day, morning, noon and night, the l*****ts are spewing their rage and their h**e toward not just president Trump, but toward you and me.

I can guarantee you will never win an argument with a socialist prog. You may have the undeniable facts, the absolute t***h, and irrefutable evidence to win an honest argument, but the only response you will get is personal attacks. You will be labeled a liar, a r****t, a xenophobe, a homophobe, a N**i, a f*****t, and worse. So, hang tough, buddy. The progs are masters of psychological projection, so the best plan is to simply turn their projections around and shove them in their face.Blade_Runner
https://youtu.be/z-sdO6pwVHQ wrote:
I salute you, sir, for your patriotism, but do not be fooled. The "opposing thought" you claim to respect is based in Soviet police state doctrines, and in this extremely contentious political climate, insults is all you will get from the progressive left. You should be well aware of this by now. Good Lord, just consider the virulent and vicious insults leveled at President Trump, his lovely wife, his children, his staff, his appointees, his friends, his associates and the 63 million Americans who support him. Every damned day, morning, noon and night, the l*****ts are spewing their rage and their h**e toward not just president Trump, but toward you and me.

I can guarantee you will never win an argument with a socialist prog. You may have the undeniable facts, the absolute t***h, and irrefutable evidence to win an honest argument, but the only response you will get is personal attacks. You will be labeled a liar, a r****t, a xenophobe, a homophobe, a N**i, a f*****t, and worse. So, hang tough, buddy. The progs are masters of psychological projection, so the best plan is to simply turn their projections around and shove them in their face. - Blade_Runner
I salute you, sir, for your patriotism, but do not... (show quote)


"The progs are masters of psychological projection, so the best plan is to simply turn their projections around and shove them in their face." - Blade_Runner

Good advise, Blade.

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Oct 2, 2019 19:03:54   #
Chamuco
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Well, I guess simpletons like yourself have no time to do honest research.
Could be scary.


Keep convincing yourself of that.
I have little doubt my "research" has been as extensive as has yours.

Unlike yourself.., I like to choose sources that have a semblance of even-handedness and present BOTH sides of an issue.

And, unlike yourself.., I don't blab, blab, blab. [45 words]

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