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Rather Than No Tolerance For Even Sensible Gun Policy, What Do You Think Is Reasonable?
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Sep 15, 2019 23:00:14   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Of course they do. How can I possibly be biased about social Security? You aren't making any sense. I am biased about the cavalier attitude many have about our Constitution and Rights. Makes me a Constitutionalist. There, are you satisfied?


OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US constitution is a perfect document and is the basis for our freedom. The second amendment states that we have the right to keep and bear arms and we do and always shall. Things like background checks and restrictions on certain firearms are for public safety. The idea that preventing deaths is against the constitution is ridiculous. My simple proposal takes no ones rights away but makes it much harder for a whack job to get their hands on an assault rifle. Time has come for this. Regular guns used for hunting and pleasure or personal protection can go with the same background checks we already use.

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Sep 15, 2019 23:07:01   #
Tug484
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US constitution is a perfect document and is the basis for our freedom. The second amendment states that we have the right to keep and bear arms and we do and always shall. Things like background checks and restrictions on certain firearms are for public safety. The idea that preventing deaths is against the constitution is ridiculous. My simple proposal takes no ones rights away but makes it much harder for a whack job to get their hands on an assault rifle. Time has come for this. Regular guns used for hunting and pleasure or personal protection can go with the same background checks we already use.
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US ... (show quote)

The Dems claim they can't deport 21 million i******s, but can confiscate 20 million AR-15s.

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Sep 15, 2019 23:27:49   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Tug484 wrote:
The Dems claim they can't deport 21 million i******s, but can confiscate 20 million AR-15s.
Citizenship can go a long way with the illegal problem. Assault weapons can be regulated by the class 3 weapons license which has long been in existance. If you are not licensed you better not have one.

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Sep 15, 2019 23:30:01   #
Tug484
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Citizenship can go a long way with the illegal problem. Assault weapons can be regulated by the class 3 weapons license which has long been in existance. If you are not licensed you better not have one.


I don't, no worry.

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Sep 15, 2019 23:32:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Feelings weren’t hurt at all. I just disagree. I believe the actions you propose will hurt innocent law abiding citizens and do nothing to stop the criminals. I can drop a clip and reload in about 3 seconds so that feel good crap really means nothing. Plus, a lot of damage could be done with a pump 12 gauge shotgun, firebomb, or wh**ever else some sicko wanted to do. Many more are k**led every year with hand guns. Why are you guys so stuck on the scary looking rifle?
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US constitution is a perfect document and is the basis for our freedom. The second amendment states that we have the right to keep and bear arms and we do and always shall. Things like background checks and restrictions on certain firearms are for public safety. The idea that preventing deaths is against the constitution is ridiculous. My simple proposal takes no ones rights away but makes it much harder for a whack job to get their hands on an assault rifle. Time has come for this. Regular guns used for hunting and pleasure or personal protection can go with the same background checks we already use.
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US ... (show quote)

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Sep 15, 2019 23:56:12   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Tug484 wrote:
I don't, no worry.



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Sep 15, 2019 23:56:59   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
JFlorio wrote:
Feelings weren’t hurt at all. I just disagree. I believe the actions you propose will hurt innocent law abiding citizens and do nothing to stop the criminals. I can drop a clip and reload in about 3 seconds so that feel good crap really means nothing. Plus, a lot of damage could be done with a pump 12 gauge shotgun, firebomb, or wh**ever else some sicko wanted to do. Many more are k**led every year with hand guns. Why are you guys so stuck on the scary looking rifle?


Statistics

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Sep 16, 2019 00:19:47   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Facts don't mean anything to you if they don't fit your biases


Hey there coos bay.. look in a mirror and get over yourself!!!

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Sep 16, 2019 00:20:28   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Statistics


Anyone can pull numbers outta their butt... sounds bout more of the same from the libtard left

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Sep 16, 2019 00:30:12   #
Tug484
 
JFlorio wrote:
Feelings weren’t hurt at all. I just disagree. I believe the actions you propose will hurt innocent law abiding citizens and do nothing to stop the criminals. I can drop a clip and reload in about 3 seconds so that feel good crap really means nothing. Plus, a lot of damage could be done with a pump 12 gauge shotgun, firebomb, or wh**ever else some sicko wanted to do. Many more are k**led every year with hand guns. Why are you guys so stuck on the scary looking rifle?

Cars, ice picks, hammers, rocks, etc. can k**l.
They just want power and guns for their body guards.
Makes no sense. These weapons are dangerous, but you can't have them to protect your family.
We're important, so we get to protect ourselves and our families. Your lives do not matter.
You're just little serfs and peons.

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Sep 16, 2019 00:57:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Statistics


Most gun homicides are done with handguns

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

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Sep 16, 2019 03:07:42   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Larai wrote:
Anyone can pull numbers outta their butt... sounds bout more of the same from the libtard left


I think you are a nice person so I won't be mean to you. Libtard? Ha I am a stereotypical redneck to most people who meet me in person.

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Sep 16, 2019 03:11:40   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 


I read the same statistics. More modern statistics point to the AR. Remember El Paso Wal Mart just a few weeks ago? I proposed Making the AR the m-16 The AK etc, part of the class 3 weapons class which means you have to have a class 3 permit to own one. There was a ban on their manufacture from 1994 to 2004 and it did help. Every one clamors about nuts with guns. A nut will not pass the class 3 weapons check.

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Sep 16, 2019 03:38:14   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US constitution is a perfect document and is the basis for our freedom. The second amendment states that we have the right to keep and bear arms and we do and always shall. Things like background checks and restrictions on certain firearms are for public safety. The idea that preventing deaths is against the constitution is ridiculous. My simple proposal takes no ones rights away but makes it much harder for a whack job to get their hands on an assault rifle. Time has come for this. Regular guns used for hunting and pleasure or personal protection can go with the same background checks we already use.
OK sorry I was mean and hurt your feelers. The US ... (show quote)


Quick question, what do our current gun law lack that makes it "easier" for a criminal to get an AR15?
I've glossed over our current background investigation that prohibits the sale of any firearm to a convicted felon or anyone convicted of a misdemeanor DV already. What else could possibly make our background investigations more stringent , considering the national database and FBI database are currently used?

Jack

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Sep 16, 2019 03:54:02   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I think you are a nice person so I won't be mean to you. Libtard? Ha I am a stereotypical redneck to most people who meet me in person.


Well alrighty then.. I can identify with red neck.. I wear it like a badge of honor.. so I will apologize... smiles and thank you for not bein mean to me..that my darlin is appreciated... I do, by the way feel that both sides of the isle are fulla s**t for the most part but I will Not give up my right to keep n bear arms, and God forbid, be ready to be called up to a m*****a, should it come to that.. cold dead hands come to mind. Also, for the record, I have zero need of any kind of "assault rifle".. I have always felt that if you can't hit a som b***h with one shot two at most go back to school... hence my partiality to wheel guns and lever actions.. I've also always felt that one or two serviceable weapons and enough ammunition for both was adequate for me.. not lookin to start a war.. but really that isn't the point of this discussion.. in the Barest terms all the laws that have been made against weapons over the years has been exactly what the Gov't is NOT supposed to do, Which is to Infringe on our rights...

infringe
[inˈfrinj]
VERB

actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.).
"making an unauthorized copy would infringe copyright"
synonyms:
contravene · violate · t***sgress · break · breach · commit a breach of · disobey · defy · flout · fly in the face of · ride roughshod over · kick against · fail to comply with · [more]
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
"his legal rights were being infringed" · [more]
synonyms:
undermine · erode · diminish · weaken · impair · damage · compromise · limit · curb · check · place a limit on · encroach on · interfere with · disturb · disrupt

So you see where I have a problem with ANY gov't "Infringement" of our 2nd ammendment rights Period!!.. No bull s**t.. not interpretation.. what OUR gov't is doin is flat out infringing on our rights!! and to give them permission in Any context of infringement may as well just walk up and hand in your guns...or Fight!!. I choose to fight thanks!.. they can have my weapon when they pry it from my cold dead hands! Period...These rights were given to us to over throw a tryranical gov't such as we have running in 2020....any one that wants to infringe on these rights INCLUDING TRUMP can kiss my rosy red ass... and my bright red neck!

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