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Sep 13, 2019 18:38:45   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
Mikey, not so sure we need to worry about that..

I am a 3rd generation guy and my gramma was born in Norway and most of the people in NW minnesota also came from northern or eastern Europe near the turn of the 20th century..

we Norsk, ate lefse, pigs feet, Lutifisk, and some really horrible stuff that came over with them.

Same for the Polish, Finns, Swedes and others..

At home most talked the language of the old country..

But we, the 3rd generation became the Americans we seem to wish everyone was like..

Probably with time, these newbies will also be the normal Americans we desire..

that idea is shown in the Hmong that are now 2nd and a young 3rd generation..

It seem to me that the same will happen with all the new migrants..

that does not mean we should let anyone slide if the do not follow the law, but I do not see this as a long term problem..
Mikey, not so sure we need to worry about that.. ... (show quote)


I think that you have assimilated, and enjoyed the cuisine and language of your family's original country.
You are Norwegian? Just the country Trump recommends for immigrants.
It proves Trump right. You are articulate, even though we mostly disagree on political issues, but you don't live like anything other than an American.
You assimilated.
I love pigs feet and hocks, but I've never tasted lutefisk, which I know is barrel fermented fish that turns gelatinous and smells bad.
Eh, I'd try it. I don't have to like it, but if you grew up with it, it would be good.

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Sep 13, 2019 19:45:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I think that you have assimilated, and enjoyed the cuisine and language of your family's original country.
You are Norwegian? Just the country Trump recommends for immigrants.
It proves Trump right. You are articulate, even though we mostly disagree on political issues, but you don't live like anything other than an American.
You assimilated.
I love pigs feet and hocks, but I've never tasted lutefisk, which I know is barrel fermented fish that turns gelatinous and smells bad.
Eh, I'd try it. I don't have to like it, but if you grew up with it, it would be good.
I think that you have assimilated, and enjoyed the... (show quote)



well, I would not bet on you ever liking Lutefisk.. it is a contest to eat the meal..

Even Lifsa... we once had a Chinese fellow over on Christmas and gave him lifsa, which is some how very good.. He nearly chocked on it.. thought he would die.. but we rescued him and he serviced.

nothing seems to be spelled right, but the spell check is not ringing so heck with it..

anyway, darkness comes and a book must be calling..

have a good night and a fine tomorrow..

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Sep 13, 2019 22:03:52   #
maryjane
 
AuntiE wrote:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/forks-are-r****t-fyi/

You've Been Warned: Western Table Manners Are Now R****t

Heads up, everyone! There are new rules again, so I want everyone paying attention. Eating your food the way you've been taught to with forks and knives (because this is the West and it's what we do) is r****t and it hurts people who are still upset about colonization from hundreds of years ago. Writing in "Today's Parent," Joshana Maharaj is outraged, I tell you, just outraged that some teacher somewhere in Canada told a little girl not to eat rice with her hands.

This prompted her to write about learning how to eat around the world, where using hands is acceptable and how the West is just r****t by using utensils, or something.

Recently, I chatted with someone who told me a story about her young niece, who goes to a prestigious preschool and was eating rice with her hands at lunchtime. The feedback her parents received was that this child needed to work on her table manners and use proper cutlery to eat. I immediately felt a rush of anger bubble up inside me when I heard this. The message that eating food with your hands is an unmannered way to eat is a real problem for me because it is dripping with the control and shame of colonization, which is particularly dangerous in an educational context. Suggesting that a child who eats with her hands has no manners is an echo of European colonial powers looking to tame the wildness out of the people they controlled. These European table manners were imposed on conquered people in an attempt to “civilize” them. It’s a damaging message about right and wrong ways to do things. It positions the technique as superior and the people who practise it as setters of the standard, leaving those with a different approach to eating with a status of inferiority. The idea of a single standard of acceptable table manners is just one of a host of strategies used to grow and promote r****m. It’s a subtle message but one that is reinforced three times a day, every day, which makes it quite powerful.

Oh for crying out loud! For the most part in her essay, she explains that certain manners are for certain foods: chopsticks for sushi, and hands for naan, which makes sense and we do that in my house. But if you're in a Western prep school, you need to use the table manners of the West. It's not r****t. It's giving respect to the culture you're in. You're not in China. We eat rice with forks here in the West. If you are in China, then you probably want to put the fork down. I don't think this has anything to do with colonialism, but with respecting the culture you're in. "Recognizing diversity in cultural backgrounds and food traditions is essential, especially in a country as multicultural as Canada," wrote Maharaj, totally unironically.

The West has a culture. Forks are a big part of that. Isn't it funny how all cultures are "diverse" and worthy of respect except Western, European, Canadian, and American cultures?

I can't keep up with these people anymore and I don't want to.

Megan Fox is the author of “Believe Evidence; The Death of Due Process from Salome to #MeToo.” Follow on Twitter @MeganFoxWriter
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Though it really isn't funny at all, I find it amazing that so many Americans are so quick to deny our own heritage and social modes and expect foreigners to assimulate to these as quickly as possible once they are in our country and in public places. In their homes, they can use their old ways, but accept they are in a new and different country and that they CHOSE to move here and should join our country, society, culture, customs, etc.

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Sep 13, 2019 22:35:17   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
well, I would not bet on you ever liking Lutefisk.. it is a contest to eat the meal..

Even Lifsa... we once had a Chinese fellow over on Christmas and gave him lifsa, which is some how very good.. He nearly chocked on it.. thought he would die.. but we rescued him and he serviced.

nothing seems to be spelled right, but the spell check is not ringing so heck with it..

anyway, darkness comes and a book must be calling..

have a good night and a fine tomorrow..

I did and I will. 🤜🤛

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