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Sep 12, 2019 12:43:51   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
Can we also jail the skin heads, the other boys clubs of the right wing?

we do not want to miss any of the rabble..


Despite seeing some f**gs whose symbolism is nothing I would want to associate with, I see no clubs, torches, or even angry crowds. They look like a calm group displaying their opinions.

What about this group?







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Sep 12, 2019 13:35:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Despite seeing some f**gs whose symbolism is nothing I would want to associate with, I see no clubs, torches, or even angry crowds. They look like a calm group displaying their opinions.

What about this group?




I am opposed to the actions of a****a as much as I oppose the many right wing groups..

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Sep 12, 2019 18:33:00   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
I am opposed to the actions of a****a as much as I oppose the many right wing groups..


Good! But where are the photos of similar violence by right wing groups?

And by the way, those f**gs the peaceful demonstrators were carrying were for the most part from left wing groups. The Don't Tread on Me was used by colonials up and down the coast so can't be said to belong particularly to either left or right. General Lee's battle f**g was the f**g of the seccessionists and they were the Democratic party. The swastika was from the National Socialists, another left wing group.

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Sep 13, 2019 05:49:14   #
JIM BETHEA
 
JoyV wrote:
Good! But where are the photos of similar violence by right wing groups?

And by the way, those f**gs the peaceful demonstrators were carrying were for the most part from left wing groups. The Don't Tread on Me was used by colonials up and down the coast so can't be said to belong particularly to either left or right. General Lee's battle f**g was the f**g of the seccessionists and they were the Democratic party. The swastika was from the National Socialists, another left wing group.
Good! But where are the photos of similar violenc... (show quote)


It will be well known when the "right" makes their stands & protests...Not cowards hiding behind masks and hurting women and children....

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Sep 13, 2019 07:53:03   #
Dwight Logan
 
woodguru wrote:
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and make decisions accordingly. Higher forms of thinking and processing may have already made up their minds, but new facts can easily cause them to modify or change their thinking. Faced with opposing information they will want to hear about and find out more. Believers choose the sources they decide to believe, and the ones they have decided to believe do not even have to make any logical sense or fit known facts. New information that opposes already formed belief causes anger and denial, they will shut down and refuse to hear anything else.

Thinkers have the ability to absorb new information that is not what they want to hear.

Faced with opposing facts, believers resort to attacks on unrelated and irrelevant, think about responses to a Trump incident with the "but what about Hillary or Obama"?
Thinkers weigh facts and think what they mean, and... (show quote)


The philospher Descart wrote two profound statements in Latin. T***slated they are "I think, therefor I exist" and "I doubt, therefor I exist".
When I encounter informaion by the media and many people in this forum I use a profound statement by Professor Cowan at Rutgers Law Scool. "You are definatly right, unless of course, you are wrong.
So many contributions here are written so that the authors can enhance their phenomenal selves. In other words their ego.

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Sep 13, 2019 09:43:30   #
debeda
 
JIM BETHEA wrote:
It will be well known when the "right" makes their stands & protests...Not cowards hiding behind masks and hurting women and children....



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Sep 13, 2019 09:43:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Good! But where are the photos of similar violence by right wing groups?

And by the way, those f**gs the peaceful demonstrators were carrying were for the most part from left wing groups. The Don't Tread on Me was used by colonials up and down the coast so can't be said to belong particularly to either left or right. General Lee's battle f**g was the f**g of the seccessionists and they were the Democratic party. The swastika was from the National Socialists, another left wing group.
Good! But where are the photos of similar violenc... (show quote)




How about the Natzi f**g??

But I say it is often not the actual origin of the f**g (the don`t tread on me ie) but the usage by a current group that tarnishes the f**g as once used..

And you should know better then try that "the dem were the r****t back then" idea. of course they were.
Now the hating r****ts if they identify at all, use the Republican as lip service..

trying to paint the right wing orange cult as non violent is a preposterous idea..

This is a much preferred flag story..
This is a much preferred flag story.....

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Sep 13, 2019 09:49:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Good! But where are the photos of similar violence by right wing groups?

And by the way, those f**gs the peaceful demonstrators were carrying were for the most part from left wing groups. The Don't Tread on Me was used by colonials up and down the coast so can't be said to belong particularly to either left or right. General Lee's battle f**g was the f**g of the seccessionists and they were the Democratic party. The swastika was from the National Socialists, another left wing group.
Good! But where are the photos of similar violenc... (show quote)




sorry, forgot to add pictures...









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Sep 13, 2019 09:53:14   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
How about the Natzi f**g??

But I say it is often not the actual origin of the f**g (the don`t tread on me ie) but the usage by a current group that tarnishes the f**g as once used..

And you should know better then try that "the dem were the r****t back then" idea. of course they were.
Now the hating r****ts if they identify at all, use the Republican as lip service..

trying to paint the right wing orange cult as non violent is a preposterous idea..


Great pic!! If a****a was there they'd be ripping the f**g out of those kids hands, beating them with the f**gpole, the setting the f**g on fire

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Sep 13, 2019 10:47:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
Great pic!! If a****a was there they'd be ripping the f**g out of those kids hands, beating them with the f**gpole, the setting the f**g on fire



Not sure if it is real or something my mind insists on, but I think I remember when we in early grade school did something like that..
One kid got to hold the f**g and the rest did the pledge..

I honestly think of that as a good thing..

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Sep 13, 2019 13:21:21   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
How about the Natzi f**g??

But I say it is often not the actual origin of the f**g (the don`t tread on me ie) but the usage by a current group that tarnishes the f**g as once used..

And you should know better then try that "the dem were the r****t back then" idea. of course they were.
Now the hating r****ts if they identify at all, use the Republican as lip service..

trying to paint the right wing orange cult as non violent is a preposterous idea..

The N**I f**g committed violence? Was it in a conspiracy with the violent gun to revolt against humans?

No seriously, the N**I f**g is a symbol. A symbol of National Socialism. And a symbol of the atrocities committed under National Socialism. But the symbol is not the violence. Now if you show pictures of people waving or wearing the f**g while committing violence that would be one more example of left wing violence. But what I asked for was photos of right wing violence.

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Sep 13, 2019 13:23:33   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
sorry, forgot to add pictures...


So what in the photos showing the violence points to the perpetrators of the violence being right wing?

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Sep 13, 2019 13:55:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
So what in the photos showing the violence points to the perpetrators of the violence being right wing?



I would maintain that considering the right says all of Anitfa covers their faces with bandanna and masks, the people in the photos are not wearing these, so by the right own supposed logic, those not masked must be right wing trouble makers..

Obvious...



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Sep 13, 2019 14:05:04   #
Ricktloml
 
[quote=JoyV]Sorry but usually when I hear from one of the left wing outlets that a certain document has certain information, I Google the document itself and usually find what they said was in it is either the opposite, is wildly exaggerated, or the way they worded it is very misleading. You mentioned the Mueller report. I challenge you to read it yourself. None of the mainstream news that I am aware of said the report stated No evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia was found. That is what is in the report.

I have read both part 1 and part 2 of the Mueller report.

I have also found Fox to have incorrect facts from time to time, and exaggerations. But not stating the opposite of what the facts are.

Nor have I heard statements such as "everyone knows". If I am wrong, please provide a transcript or link to such incidents.[/quote

It would appear for l*****ts, they believe what the abusively biased media, (populated with ex-Obama appointees and operatives,) tell them. When sworn testimony, official documents, whistleblowers, e-mails and text messages dispute left-wing claims, they are summarily dismissed. This borders on secular faith, not critical thinking

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Sep 13, 2019 14:25:22   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
Not sure if it is real or something my mind insists on, but I think I remember when we in early grade school did something like that..
One kid got to hold the f**g and the rest did the pledge..

I honestly think of that as a good thing..


It is an EXCELLENT thing. It was an honor to hold the f**g as I remember.

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