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Sep 17, 2019 14:51:02   #
Seth
 
JediKnight wrote:
Seth: if honesty is entered into this topic at all - either side would point at the other side -and say exactly what you posted. Have you ever read Breitbart or Patriot Pulse and seen how one-sided and ultra-right their stuff is? My point is, right now, this minute, we have a corrupt, adulterous, lying, thieving, would-be-dictator as president. What is accomplished by re-hashing accusations of crimes from the past while we have blatant and visible crimes going on this very minute -distraction? Not a whole lot can be done about those past indiscretions, but does that mean we all should just excuse Trump because others did the same before he came along? Please remember: "not having done it before" or "what about them, they did it too?" both make very poor defenses indeed.
Seth: if honesty is entered into this topic at all... (show quote)


Trump gets slandered and bashed for stuff he doesn't think, do or advocate every day by members of a political party that places no value on t***h, American ideals or the Constitution, and that's okay, right?

But let him say a word in his defense and he's a "wannabe dictator" and a "r****t," this according to people who contribute zero to governance of America because their entire focus, 24/7/365 is on trying to impeach this president, to bury him under a mountain of lies.

But that's normal, acceptable, right? It's only when anyone says anything untoward about a Democrat that it's out of line.

And you folks don't even see any hypocrisy in your slanderous rhetoric and endless chain of lies, yet you believe that you rate any kind of respect?

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Sep 17, 2019 15:30:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
Trump gets slandered and bashed for stuff he doesn't think, do or advocate every day by members of a political party that places no value on t***h, American ideals or the Constitution, and that's okay, right?

But let him say a word in his defense and he's a "wannabe dictator" and a "r****t," this according to people who contribute zero to governance of America because their entire focus, 24/7/365 is on trying to impeach this president, to bury him under a mountain of lies.

But that's normal, acceptable, right? It's only when anyone says anything untoward about a Democrat that it's out of line.

And you folks don't even see any hypocrisy in your slanderous rhetoric and endless chain of lies, yet you believe that you rate any kind of respect?
Trump gets slandered and bashed for stuff he doesn... (show quote)


Remember when Trump was disavowing the KKK and it's leadership over and over again and the left continually accused him of not disavowing them. Trump asked over and over again how many times he needed to disavow them. It was endless and it STILL comes up. LOL! The lefts talking points are for the ignorant and uninformed. Those who are informed are so filled with the Trump h**e disease, it doesn't even register with them. It's a true phenomenon.

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Sep 17, 2019 16:18:54   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
Trump gets slandered and bashed for stuff he doesn't think, do or advocate every day by members of a political party that places no value on t***h, American ideals or the Constitution, and that's okay, right?

But let him say a word in his defense and he's a "wannabe dictator" and a "r****t," this according to people who contribute zero to governance of America because their entire focus, 24/7/365 is on trying to impeach this president, to bury him under a mountain of lies.

But that's normal, acceptable, right? It's only when anyone says anything untoward about a Democrat that it's out of line.

And you folks don't even see any hypocrisy in your slanderous rhetoric and endless chain of lies, yet you believe that you rate any kind of respect?
Trump gets slandered and bashed for stuff he doesn... (show quote)


Seth: I do understand your points. I have just one question in response:

Have you ever wondered WHY so MANY people on both sides of the political aisle seem to h**e Trump?

It makes sense that a certain number on both sides disagree with whomever is president. However, when have you ever seen so much collective disdain for an American president - I have not seen this level of opposition to any president in my lifetime -even those who, like Trump, s***e the e******n like Bush did with that "h*****g chad" nonsense. A competent person would have to wonder, "Trump is not the first person to lie, c***t on his wife, c***t on his taxes, and be accused of sexual assault -so why has he been chosen to receive so much vitriol, rhetoric, and dislike?

The obvious answer is because even with putting aside his infidelity, his conceit and narcissism, he is internally flawed, and is a man of no character. A man who would side with our enemy (Russia), and even defend a ruthless dictator who has publicly sworn to destroy America is seriously flawed. A man who brags about c***ting on his wives and not paying taxes, while re-routing charitable donations to his own foundation, and non-stop lies about his opponents or anyone he decides is worthy of his bull simply doesn't meet the level of a "good person" -not to mention one who would lead a nation. period.

The bottom line here is; no matter what happens in 2020, Trump will not be in office forever. Wh**ever will you do then -who will you worship once Trump is gone? hmmm.....

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Sep 17, 2019 16:30:05   #
Seth
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Remember when Trump was disavowing the KKK and it's leadership over and over again and the left continually accused him of not disavowing them. Trump asked over and over again how many times he needed to disavow them. It was endless and it STILL comes up. LOL! The lefts talking points are for the ignorant and uninformed. Those who are informed are so filled with the Trump h**e disease, it doesn't even register with them. It's a true phenomenon.


It really has spilled over from denial that he beat Hillary to a kind of malevolence that actually does constitute some sort of mental and emotional disorder.

These people are like robots in the advanced stages of it.

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Sep 17, 2019 16:33:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
It really has spilled over from denial that he beat Hillary to a kind of malevolence that actually does constitute some sort of mental and emotional disorder.

These people are like robots in the advanced stages of it.


Just look one comment up from here what Jedi is bloviating about. A great example of the sickness.

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Sep 17, 2019 16:40:24   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Just look one comment up from here what Jedi is bloviating about. A great example of the sickness.


The true sickness is in realizing just how many real r****ts we have in this country and right here on OPP! Sad thing is, guys like you, Seth, Smedly, and others either don't realize you're r****ts or simply don't care. Come judgment day, I will make sure not to stand anywhere near either one of you!

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Sep 17, 2019 17:19:46   #
Seth
 
JediKnight wrote:
Seth: I do understand your points. I have just one question in response:

Have you ever wondered WHY so MANY people on both sides of the political aisle seem to h**e Trump?

It makes sense that a certain number on both sides disagree with whomever is president. However, when have you ever seen so much collective disdain for an American president - I have not seen this level of opposition to any president in my lifetime -even those who, like Trump, s***e the e******n like Bush did with that "h*****g chad" nonsense. A competent person would have to wonder, "Trump is not the first person to lie, c***t on his wife, c***t on his taxes, and be accused of sexual assault -so why has he been chosen to receive so much vitriol, rhetoric, and dislike?

The obvious answer is because even with putting aside his infidelity, his conceit and narcissism, he is internally flawed, and is a man of no character. A man who would side with our enemy (Russia), and even defend a ruthless dictator who has publicly sworn to destroy America is seriously flawed. A man who brags about c***ting on his wives and not paying taxes, while re-routing charitable donations to his own foundation, and non-stop lies about his opponents or anyone he decides is worthy of his bull simply doesn't meet the level of a "good person" -not to mention one who would lead a nation. period.

The bottom line here is; no matter what happens in 2020, Trump will not be in office forever. Wh**ever will you do then -who will you worship once Trump is gone? hmmm.....
Seth: I do understand your points. I have just one... (show quote)


The problem on the left is that you've made a focus of his "character" as you and some others see it, so much so that you fail to acknowledge his accomplishments, give him credit for a single thing. It's literally impossible for any POTUS who keeps as busy as he does not to have done one single good thing in 2 1/2 years, yet I see and hear not one single acknowledgment of one good thing he's done.

That invalidates anyone's claim, who perpetually attacks him, to even a shred of impartiality or reasonable observation.

On the other issue, we didn't v**e for a pope, we v**ed for a president, and say what you want, he's delivering on his campaign promises and, unlike his predecessor, he is completely candid about his objectives.

Quite a large number of "never-Trump" Republicans have come around to changing their minds as they see how he's doing, his ratings creeping up.

Given that the Democratic Party wants to win in the 2020 e******ns, they, and those of you who follow them, exhibit a total lack of knowledge of human nature, especially the American mindset; you believe that this incessant war on Trump by both the Dems and the MSM will influence a leftward v**e by we, the people, while in reality the vast majority of Americans are sick and tired of the slander, threats of impeachment and obstruction being done by the Democrats, that party's tolerance of Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitism, a whole plethora of attack mode policies that, unlike what Trump and the Republicans are doing, have nothing of a positive nature where important things like the economy, jobs, immigration enforcement, Homeland security and other issues people really care about are concerned.

It's all just "get Trump!" "Impeach Kavanaugh!" "R****m! R****m!"

The Democratic Party has contributed nothing, zero, zilch of a positive nature since Trump took office.

To compound all that, the Dems and the MSM keep telling Americans who are either employed after long jobless periods, whose salaries have increased or whose market-based retirement accounts have begun prospering, unlike during the Obama years, that Trump hasn't had a strong positive effect on their lives.

And you folks really, truly don't get it, you continue to recycle the same arguments, slander and lies despite the fact that most Americans don't believe you anymore, there's simply been too much negativity coming non-stop from the left that flies in the face of what people actually see.

Just the significant declines in CNN and MSNBC viewership vs the meteoric rise in FOX viewership should tell you people something about the perception of credibility, but it doesn't -- your side will continue following the same path, employing the same strategies, then when the Dems get buried on 3 November 2020, you'll all be shell shocked, having no clue as to "how it happened," and as is the left's sense that you know better than everyone else what's good for us, you won't even look to yourselves and your own conduct as the reason you lost across the board.

It will be because Americans are too stupid to see the light and allow your side to force things that go against our sensibilities down our throats.

In summary, it's your very strategy of attacking rather than compromising with the present administration that has caused that "basket of deplorables" to grow into "multitudes" of deplorables, and what's going to happen in the autumn of 2020 is going to be no one's fault but the Democrats'.

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Sep 17, 2019 17:28:22   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Seth wrote:
The problem on the left is that you've made a focus of his "character" as you and some others see it, so much so that you fail to acknowledge his accomplishments, give him credit for a single thing. It's literally impossible for any POTUS who keeps as busy as he does not to have done one single good thing in 2 1/2 years, yet I see and hear not one single acknowledgment of one good thing he's done.

That invalidates anyone's claim, who perpetually attacks him, to even a shred of impartiality or reasonable observation.

On the other issue, we didn't v**e for a pope, we v**ed for a president, and say what you want, he's delivering on his campaign promises and, unlike his predecessor, he is completely candid about his objectives.

Quite a large number of "never-Trump" Republicans have come around to changing their minds as they see how he's doing, his ratings creeping up.

Given that the Democratic Party wants to win in the 2020 e******ns, they, and those of you who follow them, exhibit a total lack of knowledge of human nature, especially the American mindset; you believe that this incessant war on Trump by both the Dems and the MSM will influence a leftward v**e by we, the people, while in reality the vast majority of Americans are sick and tired of the slander, threats of impeachment and obstruction being done by the Democrats, that party's tolerance of Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitism, a whole plethora of attack mode policies that, unlike what Trump and the Republicans are doing, have nothing of a positive nature where important things like the economy, jobs, immigration enforcement, Homeland security and other issues people really care about are concerned.

It's all just "get Trump!" "Impeach Kavanaugh!" "R****m! R****m!"

The Democratic Party has contributed nothing, zero, zilch of a positive nature since Trump took office.

To compound all that, the Dems and the MSM keep telling Americans who are either employed after long jobless periods, whose salaries have increased or whose market-based retirement accounts have begun prospering, unlike during the Obama years, that Trump hasn't had a strong positive effect on their lives.

And you folks really, truly don't get it, you continue to recycle the same arguments, slander and lies despite the fact that most Americans don't believe you anymore, there's simply been too much negativity coming non-stop from the left that flies in the face of what people actually see.

Just the significant declines in CNN and MSNBC viewership vs the meteoric rise in FOX viewership should tell you people something about the perception of credibility, but it doesn't -- your side will continue following the same path, employing the same strategies, then when the Dems get buried on 3 November 2020, you'll all be shell shocked, having no clue as to "how it happened," and as is the left's sense that you know better than everyone else what's good for us, you won't even look to yourselves and your own conduct as the reason you lost across the board.

It will be because Americans are too stupid to see the light and allow your side to force things that go against our sensibilities down our throats.

In summary, it's your very strategy of attacking rather than compromising with the present administration that has caused that "basket of deplorables" to grow into "multitudes" of deplorables, and what's going to happen in the autumn of 2020 is going to be no one's fault but the Democrats'.
The problem on the left is that you've made a focu... (show quote)


Summarized nicely It will be a disaster for them and one of their own making.

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Sep 18, 2019 03:02:13   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
What I think is you're so brainwashed you can't be helped. Well, at least now I can tell all my friends that I have come across one delusional Hispanic. I wonder what you will say when ICE shows up at your door with deportation papers? sad. sad indeed.



Trump migrant separation policy: Children 'in cages' in Texas ...


https://www.bbc.com › news › world-us-canada-44518942






Jun 18, 2018 - Reporters who visited a migrant detention centre in Texas say they saw 20 children in one enclosure.
What I think is you're so brainwashed you can't be... (show quote)


Yes and the pictures they supposedly took were date stamped 2014. Look up the CPS child detention centers. There are not enclosures but rooms with walls and doors, not chain link enclosures like were being used before Trump. But yes there are far more children per room than they were designed for. But until Congress stops v****g against increased funding for the housing of children, as well as housing for adults, the overcrowding is not likely to be solved. But at least with the SCOTUS ruling that those seeking asylum can be kept out while their case is evaluated, and that those seeking asylum who have traveled through at least one other country than the one they came from do not qualify for asylum; the number of new detainees should reduce as only those apprehended entering our country illegally will be put in general detention. The same rules implemented under Trump which keeps families together except under certain circumstances such as:
1) Either child or adult/s needs hospitalization or has a contagious illness.
2) There is evidence the child is being abused (such as the 8 year old girl who under medical examination was found to have been raped and had several different men's sperm in her).
3) There is evidence the adult/s are not the parents, relatives, or legal guardians.
4) The adult/s have warrants for their arrest and are being incacerated.

So if the overcrowded conditions bother you, tell your representatives to v**e for increased funding!

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Sep 18, 2019 03:05:02   #
JoyV
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I know a lot of veterans. I am one myself. You are the first person saying they are a veteran I have ever heard describe a civilian rifle as a "military grade weapon;" and you apparently don't know the difference between heavily regulated select fire real military weapons and semi-auto civilian firearms.
You obviously are unaware that an M-16 or real select fire weapons ACTUAL rate of fire is about 90 rpm on burst, about 45 on semi, (this cannot be maintained because of overheating.) The actual effective sustained rate of fire for a real military weapon is more like 15 rpm. Numerous tests have been done showing that there is no discernible difference between 3 ten round mags and one 30, or 6 ten rounders and 2 30's etc., as far as rounds put out per minute. I am out of practice and I can change out a mag in 3 seconds.
You are also obviously unaware that murders by so-called "assault weapons" comprise less than 2% of the murders in this country. According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report for the past ten years, more people have been k**led by knives, more by clubs, and more by bare hands than by your mean old "military grade assault rifles." That's every year for at least the past ten years.
You should probably read up on this stuff a little bit, there, "combat veteran."
I know a lot of veterans. I am one myself. You are... (show quote)


Couldn't have said it better.

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Sep 18, 2019 03:24:55   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
Louie - I think you're making a rather large assumption regarding the left "taking all the guns." First, the right to own guns is granted by the Constitution -which, as I said, is nearly impossible to change -although it can be 'amended.' No, the left does not want to take away everybody's guns -many on the left are proud gun owners as well. What the left wants is some common sense and logic that says -"we must restrict certain types of guns from certain types of people in order to protect life" - nothing in that belief says "get Louie's guns!"

If you believe that I think "the progressives are right and logical and the right is not" - well, isn't that how you see it from where you sit? Then, I am no more guilty of that line of thought than you are - and I don't bash you for it. I try to demonstrate that the right is wrong in the way they go about trying to impose their will on the masses. There is nothing wrong with thinking differently Louie - the wrong is in the lying, c***ting, Gerry-mandering, oppression and suppression of the v**e, among other things the right has done to get their way.

The USA has always had a minimum of two parties in government. That's what makes it such a great system in many ways - because the citizens have a choice. However, unlike how America started -with honor, integrity, and good values, we have descended into a battle royal of politicians doing "wh**ever they could dream up" to sway v**ers to back "them" -and to hell with the Constitution, fair play, rights of the people, etc. Even you have to admit that there has been a lot of folk on the right coming out as 'w***e s*********ts' -and advocating "its okay to be so." When did that become okay again?

For years, we have worked to create a more fair and equal America for all of her citizens. We had actually made much progress to correct some of the wrongs in our past....until Trump came along. Now, it appears that those who seemed to fight for e******y for all have been relegated to the trash heap in exchange for the no-good ways of the old days.

Do people really think that America will somehow revert to the tragic days of the past where the white man ruled and everyone else was subservient? Now wouldn't that be something?
That's not going to happen though Louie. So, logic would say, the best thing for all concerned would be to find ways to get along -which we can do - even with our differences in the way we do things. The word is called Compromise....and that's what made America great. Think about it.
Louie - I think you're making a rather large assum... (show quote)


How many times do those of us who read the constitution or have taken civics classes have to tell that the United States Constitution does NOT give rights, before you actually READ our constitution!!!!! It guarantees the rights we already inherently have.

Compromise leads to a middle position position between greatness and meanness. Compromise is NOT what made our country great. It is sometimes a necessary evil to avert a far greater evil.

We achieved near e******y after many generations of struggle with each generation making improvements on the last. Then when we finally had nearly complete e******y, the progressives began destroying all our work in the name of r****m. Again attempting to divide us but this time by sowing h**e against the w****s instead of against the minorities. Again attempting to keep minorities ignorant but this time not by segregating them to substandard schools while w****s had good schools, but this time by making all public schools substandard and telling them that to achieve success means they are betraying their race.

In the late 70s and all through the 80s, racial tensions were at an all time low. Now the progressives seem to want to turn the clock back to the 60s or before.

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Sep 18, 2019 03:33:56   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
The same applies to republicans. So far, I haven't heard of any dems gerrymandering the v**e or lying about meetings to prevent democrat participation.


You'd better read some history. Gerrymandering was coined to describe the manipulating of districts by the Democrat of that name. Other Democrats copied the practice and then Republicans. Both parties have done so ever since. But the claim that gerrymandering makes a p**********l or congressional e******ns unfair or worse can only be believed by those who have no clue about how such seats are chosen. Any redistricting within a state makes NO difference on any statewide e******n.

And what meetings are you referring to? And what was the lie?

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Sep 18, 2019 03:40:02   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
Seth: if honesty is entered into this topic at all - either side would point at the other side -and say exactly what you posted. Have you ever read Breitbart or Patriot Pulse and seen how one-sided and ultra-right their stuff is? My point is, right now, this minute, we have a corrupt, adulterous, lying, thieving, would-be-dictator as president. What is accomplished by re-hashing accusations of crimes from the past while we have blatant and visible crimes going on this very minute -distraction? Not a whole lot can be done about those past indiscretions, but does that mean we all should just excuse Trump because others did the same before he came along? Please remember: "not having done it before" or "what about them, they did it too?" both make very poor defenses indeed.
Seth: if honesty is entered into this topic at all... (show quote)


Don't you find it strange that the president you characterize as -- corrupt, adulterous, lying, thieving, would be dictator; is the only president (with the possible exception of Ford) since before Woodrow Wilson who hasn't violated our constitution?

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Sep 18, 2019 03:47:30   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
Seth: I do understand your points. I have just one question in response:

Have you ever wondered WHY so MANY people on both sides of the political aisle seem to h**e Trump?

It makes sense that a certain number on both sides disagree with whomever is president. However, when have you ever seen so much collective disdain for an American president - I have not seen this level of opposition to any president in my lifetime -even those who, like Trump, s***e the e******n like Bush did with that "h*****g chad" nonsense. A competent person would have to wonder, "Trump is not the first person to lie, c***t on his wife, c***t on his taxes, and be accused of sexual assault -so why has he been chosen to receive so much vitriol, rhetoric, and dislike?

The obvious answer is because even with putting aside his infidelity, his conceit and narcissism, he is internally flawed, and is a man of no character. A man who would side with our enemy (Russia), and even defend a ruthless dictator who has publicly sworn to destroy America is seriously flawed. A man who brags about c***ting on his wives and not paying taxes, while re-routing charitable donations to his own foundation, and non-stop lies about his opponents or anyone he decides is worthy of his bull simply doesn't meet the level of a "good person" -not to mention one who would lead a nation. period.

The bottom line here is; no matter what happens in 2020, Trump will not be in office forever. Wh**ever will you do then -who will you worship once Trump is gone? hmmm.....
Seth: I do understand your points. I have just one... (show quote)


If you were a corrupt politician and someone threatened to restrict the gravy train, would you praise him or attack him? Notice that the ones who spout the most h**e are the very ones who have the closest ties to wallstreet and/or are in the lobbyists pockets. This is a far more believable motive than these politicians have suddenly found that they take issue with one and only one person in office for being flawed.

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Sep 18, 2019 03:57:32   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
The true sickness is in realizing just how many real r****ts we have in this country and right here on OPP! Sad thing is, guys like you, Seth, Smedly, and others either don't realize you're r****ts or simply don't care. Come judgment day, I will make sure not to stand anywhere near either one of you!


So what is your definition of r****m. Not blindly following your progressive party narrative? Praising Trump's accomplishments? Most of the r****t comments I see coming from the left. Lumping all Hispanics as i******s. Saying minorities are not as capable as w****s to understand how to get IDs. Wanting minorities to be refused the option of going to schools of their choice if their district public school is a poor performing school. Saying minorities aren't capable of earning good grades in high schools or college so must be given a lower bar to meet than w****s. And otherwise treating us as backward children who need to be taken care of whether we choose to or not for our own good -- as defined by the progressive leadership.

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