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Sep 3, 2019 08:25:55   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Parky60 wrote:
So you are saying the words of Paul were actually from Satanl!!??

I'm SPEECHLESS is all I can say.


Furthermore, Parky, it is beyond any kind of sensibility that anyone would think, like you obviously do, that they could interpret the Bible, or God's word, using the exact method the devil has been doing since the garden of Eden, namely, quoting the word, and negating the commandments of God, and think they are doing God, or anyone else a service, let alone thinking the devil's school of bible interpretation is the way to arrive at truth!

And you think you're speechless!

39... Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham... 41You do the works of your father."... 43Why don't you understand my speech? Because you can't hear my word. 44You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father. 45But because I tell the truth, you don't believe me. 46Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 47He who is of God hears the words of God. For this cause you don't hear, because you are not of God." John 8:39-47

Truly, this verse was written about folks like you:

"desiring to be teachers of the law, though they understand neither what they say, nor about what they strongly affirm." 1 Timothy 1:7

What is it you don't understand? This:

"It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.'" Matthew 4:4

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Sep 17, 2019 16:48:40   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
Salvation

In desperation, the Philippian jailor cried, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul’s reply was simple: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved”
(Acts:16:31).

The great apostle said nothing about baptism or sacraments, candles, incense, church attendance, reforming one’s life, or anything else being necessary or even helpful for salvation.

From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible makes it clear that there is nothing a sinner can do, much less must do, to pay the infinite penalty required by God’s justice. One can and need only believe in Christ, who paid the penalty in full: “It is finished” (John:19:30)!

Scripture could not be clearer: “To him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness” (Romans:4:5); “For by grace are ye saved, through faith...not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians:2:8-9).

To attempt to do anything for one’s salvation beyond believing “on the Lord Jesus Christ” is to deny that Christ paid the full penalty for sin on the cross and to reject God’s offer on that basis of forgiveness and eternal life as a free gift of His grace. Clearly, we can be saved only by faith in Christ — but exactly what does that mean? What must one believe?

Paul declares that “the gospel of Christ...is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes” (Romans:1:16).

So believing “the gospel of Christ” gives salvation. But is believing the gospel the only way to be saved — and if so, what is the gospel? Peter declared, “There is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts:4:12).

No answer is given to the question, “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation...” (Hebrews:2:3)?

There is no escape except in Christ: “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John:14:6).

Christ warned a group of Jews, “ye shall...die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come....if ye believe not that I am he... [he is in italics, added by the translators] (John:8:2; John:8:24).

“I AM” is the name of God that He revealed to Moses at the burning bush (Exodus:3:14) and that Christ clearly claims for Himself: “I and my Father are one” (John:10:30).

Isaiah declared prophetically that the Messiah who would be born of a virgin (Isaiah:7:14) would be “The mighty God, The everlasting Father” (Isaiah:9:6). Christ’s language is precise. He doesn’t tell the Jews, “Before Abraham was, I was.”

He says, “Before Abraham was, I am” (John:8:5). He is the self-existent One without beginning or end, “the Alpha and the Omega” (Rev:1:8
, Rev:1:11
; Rev:21:6
; Rev:22:13).

So we have it from the lips of Christ himself that in order to be saved, one must believe that He is God come as a man through the promised virgin birth.

Of course, that makes sense. No one but God could be our Savior. Repeatedly, Yahweh, the “God of Israel” (203 times from Exodus:5:1 to Luke:1:68) declares that He is the only Savior (Isaiah:43:11; Hosea:13:4, etc.). Thus, to be saved, one must believe that Christ is God. To deny this essential is to reject the gospel that saves.

Believing that Christ resurrected is also essential for salvation: “If thou shalt...believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” (Romans:10:9).

And here we face another essential of the gospel that must be believed for one to be saved: “that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures” (1 Cor:15:3). His being scourged, abused, beaten, or mistreated by men—or even crucified, though in fulfillment of prophecy—could not pay the penalty for sin and would not save us. Christ died for our sins. “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” (Ezekiel:18:4; Ezekiel:18:20); “the wages of sin is death” (Rom:6:23).

Salvation comes through Christ’s death. Death is the penalty for sin, and Christ had to pay that penalty for all mankind in full. In full? Isn’t death just death? Could it be worse than we imagine? Indeed, it is!

That Christ’s suffering for sin was not just physical but spiritual is clear: “when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin...he shall see of the travail of his soul...he hath poured out his soul unto death” (Isa:53:10-12); “Christ...through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God” (Heb:9:14).

Christ’s offering of Himself to the Father for sin took place on the cross: “who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree” (1 Pet:2:24). So, again, it was not in being scourged that Christ bore our sins. He endured something far worse than physical suffering. In the garden, in dread anticipation of that horror, “his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground” (Luke:22:44).

And here again we see the vital importance of distinguishing between the physical suffering our Savior endured at the hands of men, and the punishment He endured from God: “...the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all...it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief...” (Isaiah:53:6; Isaiah:53:10).

Christ said, “I lay down my life...no man taketh it from me” (John:10:17-18). Thus the soldiers could not and did not kill Him. But Christ died for our sins—so again, what the soldiers did could not have paid for our sins.

No person (except Christ) has yet experienced the utter horror of death in its fullness. That will only occur after the final judgment: “death and hell...and whosoever was not found written in the book of life...were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death” (Rev:20:14-15). Christ became a man so that He “by the grace of God should taste death for every man” (Heb:2:9).

Therefore, His death on the cross had to include the “second death.” Thus Christ endured on the cross the eternal suffering that all mankind face in the lake of fire! This could only have been at the hands of God, not at the hands of man.

“The wages of sin is death” (Romans:6:23) — not merely temporary physical separation of soul and spirit from the body, but eternal separation from God. Therefore, in suffering for sin, Christ must have experienced the horror of the eternal separation from God that was due to all mankind. No wonder He cried out in agony, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me” (Psalm:22:1; Matthew:27:45; Mark:15:34)?!

No physical suffering, especially at the hands of sinful men, could mete out that awful penalty. Sin is a moral, spiritual problem involving God’s law and man’s rebellion against God. Both the punishment and the solution can only be spiritual.

Key Scripture verses related to "Salvation"(in addition to those above)

Old Testament:

Isa:45:22; Isa:51:5

New Testament:

Luke:7:50; Luke:1:76-79
John:3:14-17; John:10:9
Romans:5:8-10; Rom:10:9-13 ; Rom:10:17
2 Corinthians:6:2; 2 Cor:7:9-10
1 Timothy:2:3-4
Titus:3:4-7
1 Thessalonians:5:9
Hebrews:2:14; Heb:9:27-28
Revelation:12:9-11


All that a believer needs to be fruitful in his or her life in Christ is to be willing to be used of the Lord. God supplies the rest through the Holy Spirit, who leads, guides, directs, corrects, gifts, and enables.

"For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence" (1 Corinthians 1:26-29).

Inevitably, there are those who see a difference between Paul (salvation is by faith alone) and James (salvation is by faith plus works), which through close examination proves to be no difference at all.

Paul dogmatically says that justification is by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), while James appears to be saying that justification is by faith plus works. This apparent problem is answered by examining what exactly James is talking about. James is refuting the belief that a person can have faith without producing any good works (James 2:17-18). James is emphasizing the point that genuine faith in Christ will produce a changed life and good works (James 2:20-26).

James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his/her life. If a person claims to be a believer, but has no good works in his/her life, then he/she likely does not have genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26).

Paul says the same thing in his writings. The good fruit believers should have in their lives is listed in Galatians 5:22-23. Immediately after telling us that we are saved by faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8-9), Paul informs us that we were created to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Paul expects just as much of a changed life as James does: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come” (2 Corinthians 5:17).

James and Paul do not disagree in their teaching regarding salvation. They approach the same subject from different perspectives. Paul simply emphasized that justification is by faith alone while James put emphasis on the fact that genuine faith in Christ subsequently and inevitably, produces good works, which witnesses to their faith.


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Amen and Amen Great commentary.

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