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Aug 21, 2019 16:43:34   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
proud republican wrote:
I think its going to get him in a whole lot of trouble with Dems.....What do you guys think???


Dems, who cares. Universal means 'bigger' and I'm against most things bigger. Not all I can think of many things I like big, but bigger government, bigger taxes, you get the idea that's what the c****es to be want.

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Aug 22, 2019 13:05:46   #
herbie
 
proud republican wrote:
Bad guys will always find guns,no matter how many background checks you have!!!!..And mental illness..What constitutes mental illness???...If somebody like me had a depressive episode when my dad died infront of me..Am i considered mentally ill??? And if so can i get a gun legally??? There is a lot of questions we have to answer regarding gun control...


T***p w*n`t support any kind of gun control or background checks, he doesn`t want to lose the NRA support.

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Aug 22, 2019 13:28:39   #
herbie
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Wrong! The NRA simply pointed out to him how the background checks or red f**g laws opened the door to such abuse as to render them practically unenforceable from a constitutional standpoint.

As proud republican here on OPP pointed out, what constitutes 'mental illness'? It could be persuasively argued that nobody is free from mental illness. Just as nobody is truly free from physical illness if an examiner is hell bent on finding some malady.

Trump's priority is to make America great. An armed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. Trump knows it. The NRA knows it. Opening the door to unconstitutionally taking firearms away from citizens by expanding background checks is not the answer.
Wrong! The NRA simply pointed out to him how the b... (show quote)


nobody is saying take away the second amendment, but the NRA says no gun control what so ever is acceptable. and Trump is afraid of losing the NRTA support so he caved on his promise, and this is not new for Trump. he is after all a liar

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Aug 22, 2019 19:30:00   #
Gatsby
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Universal background checks are a joke. Do you actually think that criminals are going to submit to one? The SCOTUS has ruled, in Haynes v US 1968 that a criminal cannot be prosecuted for failure to submit to a background check or to register a gun because to do so would violate their 5th Amendment rights.
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/12/22/want-know-gun-registration-doesnt-impact-criminals/
There were more than 100,000 stops on gun purchases in 2017 alone. While a good number were mistakes, tens of thousands were not.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/06/gun-laws-report-finds-few-rejected-during-background-checks-charged/1213216002/

117,000 plus fails. 12,700 fails recommended for prosecution. 12 prosecutions. So your answer is to penalize people who are not going to commit crimes in the first place. Typical Liberal logic. While you're at it, why not stop drunk driving by revoking the licenses of non-drinkers?
Yep. We already have a bunch of laws that aren't enforced, and you Liberal Hobbit fart sniffers think that the solution is to enact more laws that won't be enforced, or even obeyed except by people who aren't going to commit crimes in the first place.
Way to problem solve.
Oh, wait! You can ban the tens of millions of semi auto rifles in this country that were not used to commit crimes. While you're at it, how about banning the knives that murdered more people than the rifles? Or the clubs, or bare hands?
OH wait! There is always banning magazines of more than ten rounds. Good luck with that. How do propose to get rid of a couple of hundred million of them when you don't even know who has them, and by the way, there is a Constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws. Don't know what that means? Look it up, or find someone who can actually do research to look it up for you and explain the big words.
Universal background checks are a joke. Do you i ... (show quote)


Neither universal background checks nor mental health professionals will ever be the solution.

We The People are the fix ourselves.

When you hear or see someone making such threats, REPORT THEM, at multiple levels.

Law enforcement, employers, and schools no longer DARE to ignore such reports!

The person that reported the would be Marr**t shooter is a NATIONAL HERO, and should be so treated.

I hope that President Trump will invite him to the W.H., and present him an award as such.

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Aug 22, 2019 19:40:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
herbie wrote:
nobody is saying take away the second amendment, but the NRA says no gun control what so ever is acceptable. and Trump is afraid of losing the NRTA support so he caved on his promise, and this is not new for Trump. he is after all a liar
Since when did the NRA say "no gun control whatsoever is acceptable"? That is a lie.

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Aug 22, 2019 19:51:56   #
herbie
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Since when did the NRA say "no gun control whatsoever is acceptable"? That is a lie.


oh so it is only the republicans they say no gun control even after the mass shootings ? just because the democrats want gun control you republicans say no to it ????? and the NRA is fine with stricter gun control ?? who are you trying to fool really ? maybe you should smell what you be shoveling

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Aug 22, 2019 20:00:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
herbie wrote:
oh so it is only the republicans they say no gun control even after the mass shootings ? just because the democrats want gun control you republicans say no to it ????? and the NRA is fine with stricter gun control ?? who are you trying to fool really ? maybe you should smell what you be shoveling
I did not say the NRA "is fine with stricter gun control", the NRA supports reasonable gun laws. The democrats do not want gun control, they want our guns. I don't have to try to fool you, you have already been fooled.

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Aug 22, 2019 20:02:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I did not say the NRA "is fine with stricter gun control", the NRA supports reasonable gun laws. The democrats do not want gun control, they want our guns. I don't have to try to fool you, you have already been fooled.



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Aug 22, 2019 20:12:50   #
herbie
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I did not say the NRA "is fine with stricter gun control", the NRA supports reasonable gun laws. The democrats do not want gun control, they want our guns. I don't have to try to fool you, you have already been fooled.


democrats are asking for stronger background checks, that is not trying to taske guns you are being an i***t or just plain out and out lying as usual

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Aug 22, 2019 20:19:16   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The laws are in place, those tools need to be applied!




herbie wrote:
democrats are asking for stronger background checks, that is not trying to taske guns you are being an i***t or just plain out and out lying as usual

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Aug 22, 2019 20:22:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
bmac32 wrote:
The laws are in place, those tools need to be applied!


Exactly,we already DO have laws on the books..We dont need anymore laws....We need to make sure that the laws we already have are implemented!!!...Problem solved!!!

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Aug 22, 2019 20:35:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
herbie wrote:
democrats are asking for stronger background checks, that is not trying to taske guns you are being an i***t or just plain out and out lying as usual
Would you like me to do your homework for you? I can come up with a long list of democrat politicians and their proposals for the complete disarmament of American citizens. If those damned fools ever try it, I suggest you don't get caught with your pants down around your ankles and your dick whistling in the wind.

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Aug 22, 2019 20:36:51   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
proud republican wrote:
Exactly,we already DO have laws on the books..We dont need anymore laws....We need to make sure that the laws we already have are implemented!!!...Problem solved!!!
And, there are many gun control laws on the books that should be abolished.

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Aug 22, 2019 20:45:02   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
And, there are many gun control laws on the books that should be abolished.


Just saying there is no need to make new gun laws...

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Aug 23, 2019 02:29:48   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
herbie wrote:
oh so it is only the republicans they say no gun control even after the mass shootings ? just because the democrats want gun control you republicans say no to it ????? and the NRA is fine with stricter gun control ?? who are you trying to fool really ? maybe you should smell what you be shoveling


So tell us, oh possessor of all knowledge worth knowing, exactly what sort of gun control do YOU support? Why would it work, how would it work, and how would you implement it and enforce it while staying within Constitutional boundaries? Let's hear it; no generalizations. Nuts and bolts, how would you do it?
That's what I thought.

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