Just now....President Trump backs off Universal Background check...
Aug 21, 2019 00:44:14 #
proud republican
Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I believe PR is for something positive not just thoughts and prayers either. She really does believe something should be done.
Thank you ,Tom..You are exactly right!!!
Aug 21, 2019 00:46:02 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I didn't create that map and you ignored the meat and potatoes.
Maybe this will help: Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had 0 murders, 2% of counties had 51% of the murders
Maybe this will help: Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had 0 murders, 2% of counties had 51% of the murders
Wow and Holy.... I stand corrected...and very frightened. Country life for me, lol.
Aug 21, 2019 00:55:50 #
proud republican
Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
rumitoid wrote:
Wow and Holy.... I stand corrected...and very frightened. Country life for me, lol.
Don't be frightened,Rumi...Republicans will save you...
Aug 21, 2019 01:17:37 #
proud republican wrote:
Don't be frightened,Rumi...Republicans will save y... (show quote)
Haha, maybe.
Aug 21, 2019 02:25:08 #
rumitoid wrote:
Wow and Holy.... I stand corrected...and very frightened. Country life for me, lol.
I can guarantee you would live in relative peace in my neck of the woods. We haven't had a gun related crime, other than one suicide, in 25 years. It's true.
We might hear a siren once or twice a week and those are usually due to medical emergencies or traffic accidents.
Aug 21, 2019 04:16:51 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The stats you posted are ambiguous, they do not ta... (show quote)
That crime map appears to be identical to the political map of the 2016 e******n.
Let's do a side by side comparison. You won't see it on msm, that's for sure.
Aug 21, 2019 05:19:20 #
Liberty Tree wrote:
Dems will h**e him no matter what he does. If he signed on to a background check bill they proposed they would still h**e him and want more. Background checks are for law abiding citizens. Criminals and those bent to evil will still find a way.
Absolutely!
Aug 21, 2019 05:19:33 #
proud republican wrote:
Bad guys will always find guns,no matter how many background checks you have!!!!..And mental illness..What constitutes mental illness???...If somebody like me had a depressive episode when my dad died infront of me..Am i considered mentally ill??? And if so can i get a gun legally??? There is a lot of questions we have to answer regarding gun control...
I totally agree with you.
Aug 21, 2019 05:20:55 #
Gatsby wrote:
President Trump, and all Americans, need to kick Congress in the a$$ and tell them to fully fund
the National Instant Check System"(NICS) by appropriating the funds for states to upload
data on the estimatedl 7 million "prohibited persons" currently NOT in the NICS!
the National Instant Check System"(NICS) by appropriating the funds for states to upload
data on the estimatedl 7 million "prohibited persons" currently NOT in the NICS!
Absolutely, will never happen, though!
Aug 21, 2019 05:24:34 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The stats you posted are ambiguous, they do not ta... (show quote)
Sure looks like the Democrats v****g areas!
Aug 21, 2019 05:25:41 #
Gatsby wrote:
That crime map appears to be identical to the political map of the 2016 e******n.
Let's do a side by side comparison. You won't see it on msm, that's for sure.
Let's do a side by side comparison. You won't see it on msm, that's for sure.
Very true assessment!
Aug 21, 2019 06:09:32 #
jSmitty45 wrote:
Absolutely, will never happen, though!
Actually the work has already begun, it's a weak start, but it is a start.
https://stefanik.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/fix-nics-and-stop-school-violence-act-signed-law
http://www.fixnics.org/factinfo.cfm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fix_NICS_Act_of_2017
The msm just doesn't want to address the real problem, or the real solution. They just want guns GONE.
Aug 21, 2019 10:12:11 #
woodguru wrote:
He's more worried about the NRA and Putin, he should be worried about the 80+ percent that support background checks and sensible gun laws.
Do you think he's worried about being in trouble with dems?
Why don't you try posting meaningful topics as opposed to you stream of consciousness? Do you really want to know what people think, or do you care about the reality of Trump's positions on gun control?
Do you think he's worried about being in trouble with dems?
Why don't you try posting meaningful topics as opposed to you stream of consciousness? Do you really want to know what people think, or do you care about the reality of Trump's positions on gun control?
Universal background checks are a joke. Do you actually think that criminals are going to submit to one? The SCOTUS has ruled, in Haynes v US 1968 that a criminal cannot be prosecuted for failure to submit to a background check or to register a gun because to do so would violate their 5th Amendment rights.
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/12/22/want-know-gun-registration-doesnt-impact-criminals/
There were more than 100,000 stops on gun purchases in 2017 alone. While a good number were mistakes, tens of thousands were not.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/06/gun-laws-report-finds-few-rejected-during-background-checks-charged/1213216002/
117,000 plus fails. 12,700 fails recommended for prosecution. 12 prosecutions. So your answer is to penalize people who are not going to commit crimes in the first place. Typical Liberal logic. While you're at it, why not stop drunk driving by revoking the licenses of non-drinkers?
Yep. We already have a bunch of laws that aren't enforced, and you Liberal Hobbit fart sniffers think that the solution is to enact more laws that won't be enforced, or even obeyed except by people who aren't going to commit crimes in the first place.
Way to problem solve.
Oh, wait! You can ban the tens of millions of semi auto rifles in this country that were not used to commit crimes. While you're at it, how about banning the knives that murdered more people than the rifles? Or the clubs, or bare hands?
OH wait! There is always banning magazines of more than ten rounds. Good luck with that. How do propose to get rid of a couple of hundred million of them when you don't even know who has them, and by the way, there is a Constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws. Don't know what that means? Look it up, or find someone who can actually do research to look it up for you and explain the big words.
Aug 21, 2019 10:55:35 #
rumitoid wrote:
I think he caved to NRA pressure and not to a decision by conscience. It is all about winning for him and what is best for the country always takes second, or even third, place. As well as the innocent lives k**led by gun violence. Put on a scale, one side American innocent people dead and on the other v**es, his thumb works for the president. No contest. His base will be tickled pink.
Wrong! The NRA simply pointed out to him how the background checks or red f**g laws opened the door to such abuse as to render them practically unenforceable from a constitutional standpoint.
As proud republican here on OPP pointed out, what constitutes 'mental illness'? It could be persuasively argued that nobody is free from mental illness. Just as nobody is truly free from physical illness if an examiner is hell bent on finding some malady.
Trump's priority is to make America great. An armed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. Trump knows it. The NRA knows it. Opening the door to unconstitutionally taking firearms away from citizens by expanding background checks is not the answer.
Aug 21, 2019 11:41:58 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I can guarantee you would live in relative peace in my neck of the woods. We haven't had a gun related crime, other than one suicide, in 25 years. It's true.
We might hear a siren once or twice a week and those are usually due to medical emergencies or traffic accidents.
We might hear a siren once or twice a week and those are usually due to medical emergencies or traffic accidents.
Suicide isn't a crime. I live in one of the most heavily armed areas of the US. My county has a population of some 50,000 residents and another 12,000 or so who work here. We have had four gun murders in five years. Two of those were dopeheads shooting each other, which is more trash removal than crime.
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