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Aug 11, 2019 15:26:34   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
EmilyD wrote:
But WHY was he taken off suicide watch? They claim he tried to take his own life two weeks ago...they put him on suicide watch and then take him off it? I guess was so they didn't have to watch his cell 24/7 and record on video his every move so when they weren't "looking" he could go ahead and hang himself for good?? And they are saying that he wasn't closely monitored...someone who allegedly was suicidal?? With such a high profile prisoner??? How did he hang himself? Usually they report what people used to hang themselves with...not with this case. So many questions unanswered...
But WHY was he taken off suicide watch? They claim... (show quote)
Why don't you wait until those in position to get the answers, get them?

Epstein was being held in a max security cell in the 10-south wing of the Metropolitan Correctional Center, a federal detention facility in Manhattan. Inmates in the 10-South wing are locked in single-man cells 23 hours a day with lights and CCTVs on at all times. Paul Manafort and the Mexican butcher El Chapo are incarcerated in the 10-south wing.

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Aug 11, 2019 17:22:45   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I stand corrected, he was returned to his cell on the 29th. Thank you for pointing this out!


I read an article earlier today from a supposed person that was incarcerated in that prison and he stated that the way that they have that prison laid out it it a physical impossibility to k**l yourself in that prison

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Aug 11, 2019 17:36:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
bahmer wrote:
I read an article earlier today from a supposed person that was incarcerated in that prison and he stated that the way that they have that prison laid out it it a physical impossibility to k**l yourself in that prison
And you believe a prisoner?

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Aug 11, 2019 17:46:19   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
And you believe a prisoner?


I don't have nay prisoner friends and I have never been in prison so I am going on hearsay what would you suggest?

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Aug 11, 2019 17:53:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
bahmer wrote:
I don't have nay prisoner friends and I have never been in prison so I am going on hearsay what would you suggest?
Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see.

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Aug 11, 2019 18:15:30   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see.


These Days,We Can't Even Trust What We See; without question which solves everything. 👀

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Aug 11, 2019 18:45:28   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see.


I will believe what I want but here is the article you can now believe what you want.

Concerns that alleged p*******e Jeffrey Epstein was taken out are beginning to look a lot less like a crazy conspiracy theory and more like a genuine murder mystery worth investigating.

In an exclusive interview late Saturday with the New York Post, a former inmate at the Manhattan-based corrections facility where Epstein died earlier that morning claimed that the billionaire p*******e couldn’t have possibly k**led himself via h*****g given what he knows about the facility.

“There’s no way that man could have k**led himself,” said the unnamed former inmate, an ex-con who, according to the Post, spent several months in the same housing unit as Epstein. “I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility. Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything. You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.”

He added that during a suicide watch, they place “you in this white smock, a straight jacket” that prevents you from injuring yourself.

To be clear, reports have confirmed that Epstein had in fact been off suicide watch when he was found dead, though he did reportedly spend a couple weeks on it prior after an alleged failed suicide attempt in late July.

— Neal Rudin (@NealRudin) August 11, 2019
“The clothing they give you is a jump-in uniform,” the former inmate’s statement continued. “Everything is a dark brown color. Could he have done it from the bed? No sir. There’s a steel frame, but you can’t move it. There’s no light fixture. There’s no bars.”

He added that there’s simply not enough available in the cells to “create an instrument of death.”

“They don’t give you enough in there that could successfully create an instrument of death. You want to write a letter, they give you rubber pens and maybe once a week a piece of paper,” he said. “Nothing hard or made of metal. There’s up to 80 people there. They could put two in cell. It’s one or two, but I’ll never believe this guy had a cellmate. He was too blown up.”

The inmate went on to describe the conditions at the facility.

“The damage that unit can do to someone,” he said. “It’s like you’re an animal and you’ve been brought into a kennel. A guy like Jeffrey, it’s like, ‘Holy sh*t.’ I told my parents not to come there. God wasn’t in the building. I’ve had some heavy incidents in the building. What happened is permanent.”

He continued, “Some of the guards are on a major power trip. They know guys there are suffering. They know something the rest of the world hasn’t seen, that a place like this exists in this country, and they get off on it. If the guards see that the guy is breaking, they’re going to help you break. But it’s my firm belief that Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide. It just didn’t happen.”

While these are just the words of an inmate — and convicts in general don’t exactly have a track record for their honesty — it does fit with emerging theories, some of which have been posed by Epstein’s own associates.

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Aug 11, 2019 19:02:48   #
Tug484
 
Pennylynn wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeffrey-epstein-accused-sex-trafficker-dies-officials/ar-AAFCzvI?ocid=spartandhp

Many on OPP predicted this.....and the list grows!!!


I heard the papers on this have dwindled to very few. The pervs, I mean.

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Aug 11, 2019 19:03:50   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
bahmer wrote:
I will believe what I want but here is the article you can now believe what you want.

Concerns that alleged p*******e Jeffrey Epstein was taken out are beginning to look a lot less like a crazy conspiracy theory and more like a genuine murder mystery worth investigating.

In an exclusive interview late Saturday with the New York Post, a former inmate at the Manhattan-based corrections facility where Epstein died earlier that morning claimed that the billionaire p*******e couldn’t have possibly k**led himself via h*****g given what he knows about the facility.

“There’s no way that man could have k**led himself,” said the unnamed former inmate, an ex-con who, according to the Post, spent several months in the same housing unit as Epstein. “I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility. Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything. You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.”

He added that during a suicide watch, they place “you in this white smock, a straight jacket” that prevents you from injuring yourself.

To be clear, reports have confirmed that Epstein had in fact been off suicide watch when he was found dead, though he did reportedly spend a couple weeks on it prior after an alleged failed suicide attempt in late July.

— Neal Rudin (@NealRudin) August 11, 2019
“The clothing they give you is a jump-in uniform,” the former inmate’s statement continued. “Everything is a dark brown color. Could he have done it from the bed? No sir. There’s a steel frame, but you can’t move it. There’s no light fixture. There’s no bars.”

He added that there’s simply not enough available in the cells to “create an instrument of death.”

“They don’t give you enough in there that could successfully create an instrument of death. You want to write a letter, they give you rubber pens and maybe once a week a piece of paper,” he said. “Nothing hard or made of metal. There’s up to 80 people there. They could put two in cell. It’s one or two, but I’ll never believe this guy had a cellmate. He was too blown up.”

The inmate went on to describe the conditions at the facility.

“The damage that unit can do to someone,” he said. “It’s like you’re an animal and you’ve been brought into a kennel. A guy like Jeffrey, it’s like, ‘Holy sh*t.’ I told my parents not to come there. God wasn’t in the building. I’ve had some heavy incidents in the building. What happened is permanent.”

He continued, “Some of the guards are on a major power trip. They know guys there are suffering. They know something the rest of the world hasn’t seen, that a place like this exists in this country, and they get off on it. If the guards see that the guy is breaking, they’re going to help you break. But it’s my firm belief that Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide. It just didn’t happen.”

While these are just the words of an inmate — and convicts in general don’t exactly have a track record for their honesty — it does fit with emerging theories, some of which have been posed by Epstein’s own associates.
I will believe what I want but here is the article... (show quote)


Great article bahm, from a perspective many can't see. it does raise some interesting conspiracy eyebrows.
he did cross a number of powerful people,not to mention conscience( strike that) or God and the universe could come into play. in case no one knew donnie was the only one to jade Him! in real estate. he(trump)messed with a company I worked for.

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Aug 11, 2019 21:27:22   #
Richard Rowland
 
tactful wrote:
Great article bahm, from a perspective many can't see. it does raise some interesting conspiracy eyebrows.
he did cross a number of powerful people,not to mention conscience( strike that) or God and the universe could come into play. in case no one knew donnie was the only one to jade Him! in real estate. he(trump)messed with a company I worked for.


I don't expect we'll ever know the t***h. I suspect the guards where voluntarily distracted long enough for the deed to be done. In fact, the t***h will come out. However, the deliberate disinformation associated with the t***h will be so thick no one will be able to cut to the t***h. Everything will be termed speculation.

Ebstein, like Whitey Bulger, knew too much. If you recall, Whitey was deliberately placed in an unsafe, vulnerable, situation. Those who put him there knew he wouldn't last long. I suspect he was set up by the FBI to keep him from ever telling what he really knew about the agency.

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Aug 11, 2019 21:32:14   #
JoyV
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Why don't you wait until those in position to get the answers, get them?

Epstein was being held in a max security cell in the 10-south wing of the Metropolitan Correctional Center, a federal detention facility in Manhattan. Inmates in the 10-South wing are locked in single-man cells 23 hours a day with lights and CCTVs on at all times. Paul Manafort and the Mexican butcher El Chapo are incarcerated in the 10-south wing.


I don't have any answers, but do have questions which I am NOT confident those in position to get the answers will ever answer.

Why was the CCTV turned off for his cell?
If the cells have nothing which a ligature can be attached to, how did he hang himself?
And most important, why was he taken off of suicide watch.

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Aug 11, 2019 21:38:28   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I don't expect we'll ever know the t***h. I suspect the guards where voluntarily distracted long enough for the deed to be done. In fact, the t***h will come out. However, the deliberate disinformation associated with the t***h will be so thick no one will be able to cut to the t***h. Everything will be termed speculation.

Ebstein, like Whitey Bulger, knew too much. If you recall, Whitey was deliberately placed in an unsafe, vulnerable, situation. Those who put him there knew he wouldn't last long. I suspect he was set up by the FBI to keep him from ever telling what he really knew about the agency.
I don't expect we'll ever know the t***h. I suspec... (show quote)


Good point Richard,it's disturbing that factual t***h get covered up so completely these days while corruption runs free and diversity thrives.deliberately, 😡 while Rome burns and spirals toward hunger game dystopia.
we all know how the rapture and end times will start? I wonder.
Jesus for president 👋🏻👋🏻

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Aug 11, 2019 22:34:10   #
david1945
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Keeping him in New York was to be able to get him k**led & be able to cover it up, just like moving Whitey Bulgar to VA to get him k**led was. He could have destroyed Mueller & that is a drop in the bucket to what Epstein could have done.

Now watch the media close ranks around all those remotely associated w/ him.


Now what do we do. Righteously condemn the son of a b***hes and go to work tomorrow. We could do that in yesteryear but we do not have the FBI to turn to tomorrow. They are as much an enemy as the g*******t are. There comes a time when every one must do more than b***h. Just imagine 60 million of us making DC standing room only. The pervs would be hiding in the basement with the rats till we left and when we did the memory of us and the demands we made would change things and we tell them up front "if not we take up arms". Decisions are going to have to be made.

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Aug 11, 2019 23:50:36   #
EmilyD
 
david1945 wrote:
Now what do we do. Righteously condemn the son of a b***hes and go to work tomorrow. We could do that in yesteryear but we do not have the FBI to turn to tomorrow. They are as much an enemy as the g*******t are. There comes a time when every one must do more than b***h. Just imagine 60 million of us making DC standing room only. The pervs would be hiding in the basement with the rats till we left and when we did the memory of us and the demands we made would change things and we tell them up front "if not we take up arms". Decisions are going to have to be made.
Now what do we do. Righteously condemn the son of ... (show quote)


We go to work tomorrow and watch how this story fades from the media in a day or two. There won't be any more about this because the guy is dead. The investigation is over. There may be a few flutters about prosecutions...but because this happened this way, people (family and friends) will never say what went wrong if they know anything, because they will find themselves threatened and/or their family members too. This is how it is with the deep state. I wonder what Trump is going to do now...it will be interesting...and it will be from left field. One thing is clear to me.... and is becoming clearer to Americans is how powerful the deep state was. But I believe they have met their match with Trump...we'll see.

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Aug 11, 2019 23:51:24   #
EmilyD
 
EmilyD wrote:
We go to work tomorrow and watch how this story fades from the media in a day or two. There won't be any more about this because the guy is dead. The investigation is over. There may be a few flutters about prosecutions...but because this happened this way, people (family and friends) will never say what went wrong if they know anything, because they will find themselves threatened and/or their family members too. This is how it is with the deep state. I wonder what Trump is going to do now...it will be interesting...and it will be from left field. One thing is clear to me.... and is becoming clearer to Americans, is how powerful the deep state was. But I believe they have met their match with Trump...we'll see.
We go to work tomorrow and watch how this story fa... (show quote)

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