bggamers Loc: georgia

You know this can be seen in any country around the world no matter where you go you will find this. Israel is a country the territory they bulldozed is their territory they have a right to protect and defend that and WE probably don't know all the info but I'm sure they gave them plenty of warning to get out. These people have been fighting each other for over 2 thousand years we will never know the all the in's and outs of anything they do and who are we to criticize. Before we do we need to take care of our own issues before we feel we can criticize anothers

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The Arab/Israeli conflict began with the Jaffa r**ts in 1921, and except for brief periods of relative peace, it has been going on ever since.

The land once known as Canaan or Palestine or the Promised Land had been the home of the Jews for at least 20 centuries before Islam was founded in 632 AD.

In 1010 BCE, King David established the Kingdom of Israel, 1600 years before the advent of Islam.

Beginning in the 19th century, archeological expeditions in Israel and surrounding areas have uncovered thousands of sites, hamlets, villages, temples, burial grounds, tombs, wells, and millions of artifacts--pottery, coins, amulets, scrolls, carvings, and many other items, all of which revealed a Hebrew presence in the land, some dating back to 1500 BCE, Then there are the Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in the Qumran Caves by a Bedouin shepherd boy. These date back to the 3rd century BCE.

Nothing, not one artifact, was ever found there that revealed that a people called "Palestinians" ever lived there, nothing indicated a Palestinian culture, language, tradition or physical presence of any kind.

Israel map throughout history

The name "Palestinian" referring to a collection of Arabs from the area in and around T***s Jordan was first used in 1964AD.

The vast literature proving the historic Jewish connection to the Land of Israel has been extensively manipulated and distorted as part of the Palestinian politics of nationalism. Propaganda, indoctrination, and socialization, both domestically and internationally, are essential parts of the strategy and tactics of asserting Palestinian nationhood and statehood. By appropriating to themselves the values, traditions, and historical facts that belong to the Jews, Palestinians have managed to fabricate a "legitimate" history and political traditions out of nothing while denying those of Israel.

Founding National Myths: Fabricating Palestinian History

I understand your argument, you are a progressive ideologue, and as such you are by default an anti-Semite. So go ahead and politicize and proselytize and propagandize the existence and rights of a great people who are now and have always been in an existential struggle against extinction.

straightUp Loc: California

Let me start by reminding you that my first response on this thread was to defend the Jews. I stated that we can't blame the Jews for Israeli aggression against Palestinians and proceeded to identify Z*****ts as the culprits (not all Jews but some Jews, not all Christians but some Christians).. So you need to start paying attention to what people say instead of assuming the same tired old arguments.

And no, being a progressive doesn't "automatically" make me anything. Perhaps that's hard for you to fathom since the flock model of the extreme right is saturated with automated opinions. It's a little different for free thinkers. You should try it.

And since we're nit-picking semantic history, let me also point out that the term "Semitic" refers to a linguistic group that came out of Africa and the Middle East and that includes the original Jews AND the Arabs. So when someone is sticking up for the Palestinians, they are not technically being anti-Semitic.

As for the Jewish right to the land... think about this... if the Jews have a right to call the land their own because the once had a kingdom there thousands of years ago, then by the same logic we should be giving America back to the Indians. Ancient history is good for references but it's not a legal book of rights and what matters is how people are treated today, not what happened thousands of years ago.

So, after all your irrelevant fussing, I'm just going to restate my original agreement with the OP... Indeed, the way Z*****t Israel is treating the Palestinians is a violation of human rights and it makes themselves and all their Christian supporters that much less "human". Try as you might, you can't justify these violations of human rights by fussing over ancient history.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

If Israel lays down their arms they would be slaughtered without mercy. If the Arabs/Palestinians lay down their arms there would be peace. Islam is a death cult, everyone must submit and pay a tax or die. Plus the UN didn't give Israel the land. God gave it to them as an everlasting covenant. Every archelogy site mentioned in the Bible has led to the actual cities being found. The Bible even foretells that once Israel is back in the land they will never be removed again and everyone who tries will find it a burdensome stone.
The Bible has been proven true time after time. No other religion has as much prophecy as the Jewish and Christian faiths. No man-made laws are as short and sweet and cover every circumstance in human relations to God and to one another as the Ten Commandments. The first five are our duty to God and the last five are our duty to one another. Maybe that's why Israel and the US are the two most blessed nations on Earth.
Every other nation seeks both of our destruction. If you leave out the spiritual unseen side of things you will never really understand what is happening in the world and why it is happening. God has His followers and Satan has his. Both are leading to the final battle. Read Genius Six and it explains what is happening today. Splicing and dicing DNA, creating hybrids of half-human and animals was the reason God caused the flood of Noah. Now we are doing it again and inviting our destruction again. Man wants to dethrone God and that isn't going to happen. AI, algorithms, bitcoins, big tech are all ways Satan is trying to control who can buy and sell. Who can have food and who won't be allowed to have food? Everyone will have to accept the mark of the beast or be k**led. Sounds like the merging of man and machine doesn't it. Maybe the mark is a chip?
Enoch and Elijah are the only two men who the Bible says have never died. It says the whole world will watch them preach the gospel in the last days. Satellites and TV will allow that to happen. For a time nothing can harm them but eventually, they will be k**led fulfilling that it is appointed that because of sin each man or person must die once. You are either a sheep or a goat. All goats are tossed into the Lake of Fire. When you attack Israel you are literally attacking God. They are the apple of His eye. Believe it or not. But God doesn't make you love Him or Israel. He is a gentleman. You always have a choice. Each one can obey or not. I choose to be blessed, some will choose to be cursed. Each one chooses their fate. If nothing else God is just. You can believe the t***h or the lies. Follow God or follow Baal, obey or rebel. It's just that easy and complex. Some people think the Bible is a book of myths, so was Troy until it was found.

bggamers Loc: georgia

RRRoger

First, Israel has bought and paid for their land legally.

Second, God gave them all the land from the Wadis of Egypt to the Euphrates River forever.
Some day, they will reclaim "their land".

Third, the "Palestinians" do not belong there.
They came from Jordan, the original "two state solution".

Mutton Dressed As Lamb

Are you calling being Muslim, rather than Jewish, a get out of jail card for the far worse actions done by the Arabs against Israelis, Jews in general, as well as each other?

promilitary

I would agree IF the Palestinians stop lobbing rockets into Israel

Richard Rowland

"great people who are now and have always been in an existential struggle against extinction"?

One has to wonder why these great people you mention have struggled against extinction. If they're so great, why did all societies run 'em out of their country? Obviously, some folks didn't think they are so great. Perceptive folks realize the goodness in others and would have welcomed them. They have never been welcomed anywhere, that I recall.

They created a bedtime storybook, made themselves the center of the plot (Old Testament) and began to believe the storyline that they are Gods chosen. However, along comes Jesus and tells 'em things they don't wanna hear. We know what took place next.

Probably what will be learned when the end times finally materialize is that the chosen ones aren't the chosen ones, any more than anyone else, after all.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

There is a difference between the interpretation of scriptures by the rabbi's (mere men) and the God dictated scriptures which are infallible.

The people and tribes around the Hebrews were pagans who had the nasty habit of sacrificing their children to idols made of stone or wood. That's why God called out Abraham, to set them apart and reveal the true God. If the Hebrews strayed from the law they were punished by war or exiled from their land. But God promised that in time they would be brought back and they were three times.

You can't trust the rabbinical writings because they hide Jesus from the people and lead them astray. But you can't doubt the scriptures because they testify of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Unlike any other religions or holy texts, the Bible is three-quarters prophecy. Study Daniel and you'll find it reveals exactly when the Hebrews would return from Babylon. You can even find when the Messiah Ben Joseph (Jesus) would arrive. But the rabbis wanted Messiah Ben David the Lion of Judah to show up. So they wouldn't accept Jesus as the Messiah. Jews require signs and wonders to believe. Jesus provided plenty of those but most still wouldn't believe.

Recently the location of the disciple's temple or church was discovered near the Sea of Galilee. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written by the Patriarchs. They are the original scriptures and from then to today they are very accurate. That's 3K plus years of dedicated copying with minor errors. In other words reliable.

If you think the Bible is a book or fairy tales, just remember people said the same thing about the Iliad and the Trojan Wars until Troy was fund and dug up. There is plenty of proofs that the Bible is true and accurate.
Mount Siani has been found along with the split rock and a lot of other evidence. Elijah's altar has been found and the list goes on and on.

Yes, there are good and bad Jews, real and f**e. But the Jews are back in their homeland. The miracles of the Six-Day War proves it. The most venerated Rabbi now deceased, Rabbi Kaduri left a written message to be opened and posted on his web site one year after his death. It was a cryptic message in code that said Jesus is the Messiah. After the Orthodox rabbis discovered it's true meaning they removed it from Kaduri's web site. But people had taken screenshots of it and preserved it. Now they are trying to prevent the book written about it from being released in Israel.

We are part of a cosmic chess game. The unseen realm is more real than our visible world. But Satan is working overtime because he knows his time is growing short. If you've ever read Enoch, Satan knows his fate and it ain't good. So he is trying to destroy the Jews and all made in the image of God. This show is supposed to last approximately 6K years and then Jesus will return as the Messiah Ben David.

Your mission if you choose to accept it, is to believe it or not. Seek God or not. To obey or not. Everyone has that same mission. Blaming others will not suffice. If you reject God your soul belongs to Satan. I hope you choose well. God has three books in Heaven. One list those that are considered righteous, one list those that belong to Satan, and one is those that are still sitting on the fence and could go either way.

If you would like more info just PM me and I would be happy to share more evidence. Or you can just blow it off. The decision is always yours to decide.

Big Brain

Most of us won’t be alive to witness Karma for the Israelis . Heartbreaking.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

I think heaven has a balcony and every seat is a front-row seat. But I can't quote scripture for that.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The purpose of this website is to provide an online resource that accurately describes the Jewish contribution to the cultural, scientific, and technological evolution of civilization.

Fundacion Hispanjudia: Contributions of Jews to the Modern World

10 Great Jewish Contributions to Mankind

Made in Israel – The top 64 innovations developed in Israel

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Lt. Col Ilan Ramon, IAF. RIP

Tsion1953

Thank you. It's irritating to hear about the poor palestinians. Look toward the PA and Hamas to find the source of the palestinians misery. They put the funds that should be used to enrich the lives of the people into tunnels, weapons, and paying salaries to those who commit terrorism against Israelis. Just look how the average palestinian lives, then look at the homes, cars, and bling of those in power. And those in power must continue to perpetuate the lie of occupation to continue their extravagant lifestyles. While the average palestinian lives in squalor. It is one of the biggest lies, and it continues. Yes, I feel for the duped palestinians.

straightUp Loc: California

You would do the same thing... It's human nature to fight back when you're being oppressed. That's why it's been done over and over from the beginning of history. The winner of wh**ever fight there is isolates the defeated, pushing them into a corner until they bite - and that justifies the muzzle. Then they continue to starve them, beat their children and when they spit - that justifies k*****g them. It's a horrible concept but this kind of stuff happens and it's happening right now in the Levant as a means of control and domination.

It's not the Jews... the Jews are fine... it's specifically the Z*****ts who intentionally perpetuate this arrangement (and no... being a Z*****t is NOT the same thing as being Jewish).

Israel can stop the rockets any time they want. All they have to do is let the Muslims live decent lives in their own homes on their own homeland. But that's not what the Z*****t government has in mind. They want to push the Muslim population into a corner and justify their way to robbing everything they have. This in turn creates a demand for security and before you know it, they're justifying the business of oppression. This is why Israel is a leader in surveillance, security and prison systems and it's also why it's so important to them that they keep the Muslims biting.