Religion is a personal thing (Page 2): Then,,,, they should all be retroactively fired as well,,, but uhh,,,, that isnt happening is it? Got to be careful about "thought police" it can...

Ve'hoe

Then,,,, they should all be retroactively fired as well,,, but uhh,,,, that isnt happening is it?

Got to be careful about
"thought police" it can come back to bite you,,, that is a d**gon I wish they would have never empowered...we will be sorry

Singularity wrote:

I am speaking generally as I am unfamiliar with all the facts of this situation.

It is possible that those around him could report not seeing it because they are is blindly bigoted as he. That would be a guess; as I said I am unfamiliar with all the facts of the situation.

Singularity

Ve'hoe wrote:

Then,,,, they should all be retroactively fired as well,,, but uhh,,,, that isnt happening is it?

Got to be careful about
"thought police" it can come back to bite you,,, that is a d**gon I wish they would have never empowered...we will be sorry

I should be clear. I do not think one should be punished for thoughts or beliefs they do not act on. But when those beliefs motivate behavior aimed at reducing the rights and dignity of another to engage in non injurious consensual activity, the behavior is bigotry and should be condemned and not tolerated. Speech is behavior.

I do not know the facts of this case. Those would be principles guiding my evaluation if I had any facts to review.

Kevyn

Ve'hoe wrote:

No, you cannot be discriminated against for race, creed, or color... as a CEO the "e******n" to that position is what was denied him, the firing was a violation,,, that I doubt will be upheld, but it is still wrong.

Creed is defined as: a statement of the shared beliefs of a religious community. Creeds are not intended to be comprehensive, but to be a summary of core beliefs. The term "creed" can also refer to a person's political or social beliefs, or is sometimes used to mean religious affiliation.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, NATIONAL ORIGIN as amended, protects applicants and employees from discrimination in hiring, promotion, discharge, pay, fringe benefits, job training, classification, referral, and other aspects of employment, on the basis of race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), or national origin. Religious discrimination includes failing to reasonably accommodate an employees religious practices where the accommodation does not impose undue hardship.

RETALIATION
All of these Federal laws prohibit covered entities from retaliating against a person who files a charge of discrimination, participates in a discrimination proceeding, or otherwise opposes an unlawful employment practice.

A private sector corporation, still has to obey the federal statutes on EEOC,,,,,,in firing him, the mozilla board of directors acted with retaliation...

What religious discrimination was Eich guilty of, and what due process was entered in his case?

Conviction of a thoughtcrime, is what this was. Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?

So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought

That is what is inherently wrong with your argument, you support "thought crimes" legislation, yet cant seem to get it out in words or thoughts, without it coming back and being used on you...

Good luck with that delusion....

No, you cannot be discriminated against for race, ... (show quote)

Eich committed no crime at all, his speach and opinion are perfectly leagle, what he did is represent the company in a way that they and their customers found repulsive. It is likely in his contract that he could be terminated if he embarrassed the company, he did and they cut him loose.

Singularity

Kevyn wrote:

Eich committed no crime at all, his speach and opinion are perfectly leagle, what he did is represent the company in a way that they and their customers found repulsive. It is likely in his contract that he could be terminated if he embarrassed the company, he did and they cut him loose.

In that case, if its covered in the contract, case closed. He signed, he broke it, he lost it.

Kevyn

Singularity wrote:

In that case, if its covered in the contract, case closed. He signed, he broke it, he lost it.

CEO contracts often make it easy to dismiss the CEO but also include a generous golden parachute.

Singularity

Kevyn wrote:

CEO contracts often make it easy to dismiss the CEO but also include a generous golden parachute.

Of course. He should be OK.

Ve'hoe

How??? He v**ed for a piece of legislation and gave money to a political cause, from his personal accounts, nothing was representative of the company,, what you have written is blatantly false,,,

You v****g record is not part of your job performance, you are being a N**i,,,,

Kevyn wrote:

Eich committed no crime at all, his speach and opinion are perfectly leagle, what he did is represent the company in a way that they and their customers found repulsive. It is likely in his contract that he could be terminated if he embarrassed the company, he did and they cut him loose.

Ve'hoe

Justification of a wrongdoing, has nothing to do with it...

Singularity wrote:

Of course. He should be OK.

Ve'hoe

Interesting what you two can contrive,,, can either of you produce that "contract" or are you content to accept that "he probably deserved what he got for merely 'v****g' a way you don't like?"

That my dear is facism,,,, not what I would have expected from you.... I even agreed with you on the gay issues, but I don't agree with retaliation and retribution, and that is what happened to Eich,,,,,

I cannot side with N**i-istic behavior, thought, and group paranoia, regardless of the side.

Singularity wrote:

In that case, if its covered in the contract, case closed. He signed, he broke it, he lost it.

Singularity

Ve'hoe wrote:

Interesting what you two can contrive,,, can eithe... (show quote)

Again I am speaking based on the limited info provided in this thread. Apparently there are nuances here I am unable to judge.

Ve'hoe

I wrote them down in my response to kevin, friends of Eich and coworkers, stated he did not exhibit any r****t, or bigoted actions,,,

He was fired for his v**e,,, and that is f*****t,,,

Hey, I get my ass sandpapered, for my stance on gay marriage,,,, you have to have the guts to stand up for what is right, even when you don't agree,,,

Now is your change to show some guts, and part with the N**is,,,,, You cannot stand up for peoples rights while denying others theirs...

Singularity wrote:

Again I am speaking based on the limited info provided in this thread. Apparently there are nuances here I am unable to judge.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Searching wrote:

Hmmmm...."dope trap, dope head" -- yes indeed, sage advice to leave solving the world's problems to grownups, grownups...like Floyd.

Thank you!

Singularity

Ve'hoe wrote:

I wrote them down in my response to kevin, friends of Eich and coworkers, stated he did not exhibit any r****t, or bigoted actions,,,

He was fired for his v**e,,, and that is f*****t,,,

Hey, I get my ass sandpapered, for my stance on gay marriage,,,, you have to have the guts to stand up for what is right, even when you don't agree,,,

Now is your change to show some guts, and part with the N**is,,,,, You cannot stand up for peoples rights while denying others theirs...

I have appreciated your support on that subject.
My apologies for seeming confident in this question as I have not carefully looked at the entire thread. As the hour is late I will promise to give it focused attention tomorrow.
Be well, till then.

Singularity

Ve'hoe wrote:

I wrote them down in my response to kevin, friends of Eich and coworkers, stated he did not exhibit any r****t, or bigoted actions,,,

He was fired for his v**e,,, and that is f*****t,,,

Hey, I get my ass sandpapered, for my stance on gay marriage,,,, you have to have the guts to stand up for what is right, even when you don't agree,,,

Now is your change to show some guts, and part with the N**is,,,,, You cannot stand up for peoples rights while denying others theirs...

I have appreciated your support on that subject.
My apologies for seeming confident in this question as I have not carefully looked at the entire thread. As the hour is late I will promise to give it focused attention tomorrow.
Be well, till then.

rumitoid

I have forgotten the recipe from my Roman Catholic days of yore: when boiling in oil a human, at what temperature secures the most punishment, or cooking time? What herbs and spices are best?
With such people like Singularity and Brian Devon, these are things we need to know; such as weight as per cooking time.
The time is well-passed for tolerance. If America is not purged as in the past, through fire and great recipes, these evil voices will steal the soul of this nation.