Religion is a personal thing.
Jun 2, 2014 11:26:00 #
Floyd Brown
Loc: Milwaukee WI
Religion is a personal thing.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
Jun 2, 2014 11:35:49 #
barberdawg
Loc: Georgia
Floyd Brown wrote:
Religion is a personal thing.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
Well said Floyd
Jun 2, 2014 11:48:47 #
Here is the first amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Religion is a constitutionally protected,,, thing.
It isnt "GRANTED" by you, by the church, nor the govt..
What are the major conflicts in the different religions?
Identify for me, where, in the above amendment, you derive what you claim??
"For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved." Huh???
How in recent events, like forcing the Colorado baker, or New Mexico photographer, to bake cakes and take photos of gay weddings, or firing the CEO of Mozilla Brendan Eich,, for his support of prop 8 in defernece to his belief system guaranteed under the 1st amendment, are the religious beliefs of those people upheld, and what religious belief did they supposedly violate of someone else?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Religion is a constitutionally protected,,, thing.
It isnt "GRANTED" by you, by the church, nor the govt..
What are the major conflicts in the different religions?
Identify for me, where, in the above amendment, you derive what you claim??
"For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved." Huh???
How in recent events, like forcing the Colorado baker, or New Mexico photographer, to bake cakes and take photos of gay weddings, or firing the CEO of Mozilla Brendan Eich,, for his support of prop 8 in defernece to his belief system guaranteed under the 1st amendment, are the religious beliefs of those people upheld, and what religious belief did they supposedly violate of someone else?
Floyd Brown wrote:
Religion is a personal thing.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
Jun 2, 2014 12:01:25 #
Wrong again dope-head,
You don't know jack about the definition of religion aside from the bogus inculcations that you have swallowed down your susceptible gullet.
Your religion is the worship of that spook chief of the constituency of half- wits.
And your stolid simpletons notion of solving the problems of the world is a amazing stunt of inanity.
Now shut your dope trap and be a good boy by playing your video games and leave the worlds problems to us grown ups.................Punk !
You don't know jack about the definition of religion aside from the bogus inculcations that you have swallowed down your susceptible gullet.
Your religion is the worship of that spook chief of the constituency of half- wits.
And your stolid simpletons notion of solving the problems of the world is a amazing stunt of inanity.
Now shut your dope trap and be a good boy by playing your video games and leave the worlds problems to us grown ups.................Punk !
Floyd Brown wrote:
Religion is a personal thing.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
Jun 2, 2014 12:12:45 #
Ve'hoe wrote:
Here is the first amendment: br "Congress sh... (show quote)
Mozilla as a corporation has the right to fire a CEO for wh**ever reason they want other than his race color or creed, if he was in a union and protected by a contract instead of an at will employee things would be different. Congress enacted no law that infringed on Eichs freedom of relegion it was the policy of a private sector company. Opperating a business is not a right it is a privilege, business is regulated at all levels of government, you can't sell drugs or practice medicine without a license, set up a suburban tire burning facility or pimp for prostitutes. It is entirely reasonable to require business to provide services to everyone in a community and completely legal. My freedom to practice my religion dosn't give me cart blanch to discriminate against or harm anyone.
Jun 2, 2014 12:43:04 #
Floyd Brown wrote:
Religion is a personal thing.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
We grant each other the right to practice their religion their way. As long as their way don't infringe on others.
Because of the different in religions there have been & still are major conflicts.
We need to set aside our personal religious beliefs when we try to solve the problems in the world. For we most protect the right of others to personal religious beliefs if our beliefs are to be saved.
You're right
Jun 2, 2014 12:45:17 #
Kevyn wrote:
Mozilla as a corporation has the right to fire a C... (show quote)
Agreed!
Being told that you may no longer run roughshod over the rights and dignity of others you h**e because of strongly held religious beliefs because you are no longer in the majority of the Democratic populance is a CORRECTION OF BIGOTRY, not an attack on your "RIGHTS."
Jun 2, 2014 13:23:56 #
Wolf counselor wrote:
Wrong again dope-head, br br You don't know jack ... (show quote)
Hmmmm...."dope trap, dope head" -- yes indeed, sage advice to leave solving the world's problems to grownups, grownups...like Floyd.
Jun 2, 2014 13:52:36 #
No, you cannot be discriminated against for race, creed, or color... as a CEO the "e******n" to that position is what was denied him, the firing was a violation,,, that I doubt will be upheld, but it is still wrong.
Creed is defined as: a statement of the shared beliefs of a religious community. Creeds are not intended to be comprehensive, but to be a summary of core beliefs. The term "creed" can also refer to a person's political or social beliefs, or is sometimes used to mean religious affiliation.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, NATIONAL ORIGIN as amended, protects applicants and employees from discrimination in hiring, promotion, discharge, pay, fringe benefits, job training, classification, referral, and other aspects of employment, on the basis of race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), or national origin. Religious discrimination includes failing to reasonably accommodate an employees religious practices where the accommodation does not impose undue hardship.
RETALIATION
All of these Federal laws prohibit covered entities from retaliating against a person who files a charge of discrimination, participates in a discrimination proceeding, or otherwise opposes an unlawful employment practice.
A private sector corporation, still has to obey the federal statutes on EEOC,,,,,,in firing him, the mozilla board of directors acted with retaliation...
What religious discrimination was Eich guilty of, and what due process was entered in his case?
Conviction of a thoughtcrime, is what this was. Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
That is what is inherently wrong with your argument, you support "thought crimes" legislation, yet cant seem to get it out in words or thoughts, without it coming back and being used on you...
Good luck with that delusion....
Creed is defined as: a statement of the shared beliefs of a religious community. Creeds are not intended to be comprehensive, but to be a summary of core beliefs. The term "creed" can also refer to a person's political or social beliefs, or is sometimes used to mean religious affiliation.
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, SEX, NATIONAL ORIGIN as amended, protects applicants and employees from discrimination in hiring, promotion, discharge, pay, fringe benefits, job training, classification, referral, and other aspects of employment, on the basis of race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), or national origin. Religious discrimination includes failing to reasonably accommodate an employees religious practices where the accommodation does not impose undue hardship.
RETALIATION
All of these Federal laws prohibit covered entities from retaliating against a person who files a charge of discrimination, participates in a discrimination proceeding, or otherwise opposes an unlawful employment practice.
A private sector corporation, still has to obey the federal statutes on EEOC,,,,,,in firing him, the mozilla board of directors acted with retaliation...
What religious discrimination was Eich guilty of, and what due process was entered in his case?
Conviction of a thoughtcrime, is what this was. Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
That is what is inherently wrong with your argument, you support "thought crimes" legislation, yet cant seem to get it out in words or thoughts, without it coming back and being used on you...
Good luck with that delusion....
Kevyn wrote:
Mozilla as a corporation has the right to fire a C... (show quote)
Jun 2, 2014 13:56:47 #
Whose rights and dignity did he trample on?
Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
You cant make the statement that Eich was the aggressor, when those around him report not seeing it... if you have other info, lets see it.
Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
You cant make the statement that Eich was the aggressor, when those around him report not seeing it... if you have other info, lets see it.
Singularity wrote:
Agreed!
Being told that you may no longer run roughshod over the rights and dignity of others you h**e because of strongly held religious beliefs because you are no longer in the majority of the Democratic populance is a CORRECTION OF BIGOTRY, not an attack on your "RIGHTS."
Being told that you may no longer run roughshod over the rights and dignity of others you h**e because of strongly held religious beliefs because you are no longer in the majority of the Democratic populance is a CORRECTION OF BIGOTRY, not an attack on your "RIGHTS."
Jun 2, 2014 13:57:28 #
wrong...
Searching wrote:
Hmmmm...."dope trap, dope head" -- yes indeed, sage advice to leave solving the world's problems to grownups, grownups...like Floyd.
Jun 2, 2014 13:57:32 #
wrong...
Searching wrote:
Hmmmm...."dope trap, dope head" -- yes indeed, sage advice to leave solving the world's problems to grownups, grownups...like Floyd.
Jun 2, 2014 14:53:46 #
Ve'hoe wrote:
Whose rights and dignity did he trample on?
Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
You cant make the statement that Eich was the aggressor, when those around him report not seeing it... if you have other info, lets see it.
Mozilla chairman Mitchell Baker admitted that I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozillas values of inclusiveness. If thats the case why exactly was Eich fired?
So the problem isnt with how he acted it is for what he thought
You cant make the statement that Eich was the aggressor, when those around him report not seeing it... if you have other info, lets see it.
I am speaking generally as I am unfamiliar with all the facts of this situation.
It is possible that those around him could report not seeing it because they are is blindly bigoted as he. That would be a guess; as I said I am unfamiliar with all the facts of the situation.
Jun 2, 2014 15:03:01 #
Kevyn wrote:
Mozilla as a corporation has the right to fire a C... (show quote)
And your freedom of speech as per the 1st amendment doesn't give you the right to shout fire" in a crowed theater
Jun 2, 2014 15:25:17 #
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