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Jul 22, 2019 20:16:35   #
Singularity
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Read carefully, I never said they weren't able to v**e, not what I said at all, but you guys never read thoroughly.


Are you being cute?

You aren't bring clear, that's for sure.

Lol.

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Jul 22, 2019 21:49:16   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
First socialists don't have s***es, you obviously don't understand true socialism. Second the American native Indians who live on a reservation can't v**e unless they have dual citizenship. The Indian nation is independent from the US, so no party involved.


Barracuda, Again, you arguing with the wrong pawn on this board. There are too many Indians in my family who are conservatives and abhor socialism. And any socialist community, a centralized planned economy, is s***ery.

When some arrogant elitist comes to me and insists I am too ignorant to manage my own affairs, too stupid to know my own needs, but they will take total charge of my life, my health, my paycheck, my property, because they looooove me, I become highly suspicious of their motives.

The vast number of Indians today in the United States are mulatoes, racially intermarried with W****s, Hispanics, Asians and B****s, technically "factioned" so much so that they don't live on any reservations and v**e at the polls with the rest of us.

You pretend to be familiar with the Indian's situation, but are so poorly informed that your persona here on OPP is very t***sparent; just one more liberal trying to divide and conquer, grasping for the persecuted who are nonexistent.

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Jul 22, 2019 22:09:52   #
Seth
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Barracuda, Again, you arguing with the wrong pawn on this board. There are too many Indians in my family who are conservatives and abhor socialism. And any socialist community, a centralized planned economy, is s***ery.

When some arrogant elitist comes to me and insists I am too ignorant to manage my own affairs, too stupid to know my own needs, but they will take total charge of my life, my health, my paycheck, my property, because they looooove me, I become highly suspicious of their motives.

The vast number of Indians today in the United States are mulatoes, racially intermarried with W****s, Hispanics, Asians and B****s, technically "factioned" so much so that they don't live on any reservations and v**e at the polls with the rest of us.

You pretend to be familiar with the Indian's situation, but are so poorly informed that your persona here on OPP is very t***sparent; just one more liberal trying to divide and conquer, grasping for the persecuted who are nonexistent.
Barracuda, Again, you arguing with the wrong pawn ... (show quote)







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Jul 22, 2019 23:56:49   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Singularity wrote:
I asserted my disbelief in its existence, not proof of nonexistence. You make the positive assertion, yours is the burden of proof. Since you have failed to meet your burden of proof, I am unpersuaded. I'm not particularly interested in showing you the futility of an attempt at disproving a negative. You are frustrated enough that you can't gather an iota of positive evidence to prove a positive claim of the existence of any kind of supernatural phenomena.

And I just don't care to engage with you, thank you. Its not my job to reassure your faith in that which I do not believe. How would that even work?

Stalemate?

How is this for further symmetry?

You believe you get heaven and avoid Hell. I refuse to allow my integrity to be bought or intimidated!

You specifically exclude yourself from this specific conversation every time I kick your ass with a definitive rebuttal. Then you jump back in and assert your same old tired objections whenever someone else brings the question.

I'm carefully avoiding mockery yet being as kind yet forthright and inclusive as I can in answering JK, because he hasn't shown himself, yet, to be as big of a raw aswhole as you have been. Even though his persistence is puzzling since this is off topic in a non religious section, no one has formally objected they are bored or feel crowded out, and I'm bored with the third day in a row of rain with flash flood warnings. I'm stuck in the house. Maybe he is bored as well. So... WTF....
I asserted my disbelief in its existence, not proo... (show quote)
Is not your assertion of disbelief a positive assertion? IOW, you are saying you positively do not believe in God. And, if you attempted to prove your assertion is true, you would have to prove a negative. You can't gather an iota of positive evidence to prove that any kind of supernatural phenomena does not exist.

I certainly am not frustrated because I cannot prove anything to you, nor do I care to. Moreover, it is rather arrogant of you to think that your attempts to explain your disbelief has any effect whatsoever on the strength of my faith. I ain't bouncing my faith off of you just to see if it is real.

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Jul 23, 2019 04:38:03   #
Singularity
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is not your assertion of disbelief a positive assertion? IOW, you are saying you positively do not believe in God. And, if you attempted to prove your assertion is true, you would have to prove a negative. You can't gather an iota of positive evidence to prove that any kind of supernatural phenomena does not exist.

I certainly am not frustrated because I cannot prove anything to you, nor do I care to. Moreover, it is rather arrogant of you to think that your attempts to explain your disbelief has any effect whatsoever on the strength of my faith. I ain't bouncing my faith off of you just to see if it is real.
Is not your assertion of disbelief a positive asse... (show quote)


I did prove MY assertion that I don't believe god exists. You stated you believe that I do not believe it.

Its not my job to prove YOUR assertion that god does exist. It wouldn't work because I don't believe it.

Its your task to convince me only to the degree that you should want to change my mind for some reason. Seems you do want to for some reason, since you keep trying. You keep failing, because you suck at understanding the proper use of logic and rhetoric.

It is you who arrogantly frustrate yourself with this intrusive wish to change me. I'm bored enough some of the time to entertain you.

But ultimately, I'm fine. You need not stir yourself to such frustration on my account if you find it irksome.

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Jul 23, 2019 04:50:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Singularity wrote:
I did prove MY assertion that I don't believe god exists. You stated you believe that I do not believe it.

Its not my job to prove YOUR assertion that god does exist. It wouldn't work because I don't believe it.

Its your task to convince me only to the degree that you should want to change my mind for some reason. Seems you do want to for some reason, since you keep trying. You keep failing, because you suck at understanding the proper use of logic and rhetoric.

It is you who arrogantly frustrate yourself with this intrusive wish to change me. I'm bored enough some of the time to entertain you.

But ultimately, I'm fine. You need not stir yourself to such frustration on my account if you find it irksome.
I did prove MY assertion that I don't believe god ... (show quote)
You said you DO NOT believe God exists. I said I believe you. I also said that I have no intention of convincing you otherwise. Under the circumstances, that would be impossible.

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Jul 23, 2019 05:19:43   #
Singularity
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You said you DO NOT believe God exists. I said I believe you. I also said that I have no intention of convincing you otherwise. Under the circumstances, that would be impossible.


For REALS, Dude!?! You're not just spoofing an old lady for s**tz and giggles are ya?!?

Cool beans, I WIN!

Wait til I tell PeterS!

Hey Pete, Wake the duck up, you won't believe this shot!

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Jul 23, 2019 09:00:03   #
Cuda2020
 
Singularity wrote:
Poised on the brink of destruction, the Native American empires greeted the Spanish Conquistadors as cultural equals.

https://youtu.be/8-dQdASWkDU

The decimation was catalyzed if not precipitated, and their ultimate demise seems to have been accelerated by the interaction with European culture and depredations.

And measles.


I'm not sure if it was exactly measles but your correct it was a sickness... v***s the white man brought over and k**led a staggering percentage of them, somewhere in the ninety percentiles.

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Jul 23, 2019 09:38:03   #
Cuda2020
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Barracuda, Again, you arguing with the wrong pawn on this board. There are too many Indians in my family who are conservatives and abhor socialism. And any socialist community, a centralized planned economy, is s***ery.

When some arrogant elitist comes to me and insists I am too ignorant to manage my own affairs, too stupid to know my own needs, but they will take total charge of my life, my health, my paycheck, my property, because they looooove me, I become highly suspicious of their motives.

The vast number of Indians today in the United States are mulatoes, racially intermarried with W****s, Hispanics, Asians and B****s, technically "factioned" so much so that they don't live on any reservations and v**e at the polls with the rest of us.

You pretend to be familiar with the Indian's situation, but are so poorly informed that your persona here on OPP is very t***sparent; just one more liberal trying to divide and conquer, grasping for the persecuted who are nonexistent.
Barracuda, Again, you arguing with the wrong pawn ... (show quote)


Well you are somewhat correct on some points, good job

What I've learned is that one's hereditary can mean absolutely nothing for the present time, even being a native american. So many people believe their own environment is the worlds perspective.

First, what did I actually say? I said "true Socialism doesn't have s***es", read up on it and get back to me after you've educated yourself. Socialism is in direct defiance of s***ery, ideologically. Now, under a dictatorship, which it has always has been under, they are, in a sense, all s***es.

Socialism will never happen here, period, we all LOVE having MORE! Unless we are taken hold by the oligarch's or plutocrats who overturn our government, which is NOT impossible!

I never pretended to be "familiar" with the Indian situation, with that said I also know some history, I never pretend to know everything. Like EVERYONE on here, I state what I know (or what I think I know lol, if I'm incorrect I'd rather be corrected but make damn sure you are right) and my opinion.

In your second and third paragraphs, I agree with you.

I suspect my persona is t***sparent, I try to be but contrary to dividing and conquering, you're misreading me once again.

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Jul 23, 2019 09:43:46   #
Cuda2020
 
Singularity wrote:
Are you being cute?

You aren't bring clear, that's for sure.

Lol.


Yeah, I f*ked up back there with a double negative LOL but mostly due to me typing can when I meant to say can't, my bad. We're so far down the lane now Sing I don't think it matters anymore, but we were talking about Native Americans v****g, who can and who can't.

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Jul 23, 2019 10:28:31   #
Singularity
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yeah, I f*ked up back there with a double negative LOL but mostly due to me typing can when I meant to say can't, my bad. We're so far down the lane now Sing I don't think it matters anymore, but we were talking about Native Americans v****g, who can and who can't.


The best remedy is often s clean start after a helping hand outta the ditch.

Carry on, McDuff, carry on.

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Jul 23, 2019 11:06:14   #
JediKnight
 
amadjuster wrote:
Then why are you so judgmental and rude. We all have opinions, even if you can't seem to grasp that.


You are mistaking my "opinion" with judgment. My words are merely my opinion (as are your words) because without the ability to apply repercussions there is no "judgement." When people here slam my expression, or even when they support Trump, they are merely offering their opinions. I try very hard to not come off rude or negative -even when my opinion differs. However, being human, just like everyone else, sometimes I can miss that mark. Please know that I am not trying to be judgmental or rude -although at times I will respond in kind to what I receive.

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Jul 23, 2019 12:15:23   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Singularity wrote:
For REALS, Dude!?! You're not just spoofing an old lady for s**tz and giggles are ya?!?

Cool beans, I WIN!

Wait til I tell PeterS!

Hey Pete, Wake the duck up, you won't believe this shot!
Nope, you win. You've convinced me you do not believe God exists. You have not convinced me that He doesn't.

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Jul 24, 2019 19:47:40   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Nope, you win. You've convinced me you do not believe God exists. You have not convinced me that He doesn't.


Cool, can we all be friends now You believe, you don't believe, I believe in both, who gives a crap anyway.

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Jul 24, 2019 22:14:33   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Well you are somewhat correct on some points, good job

What I've learned is that one's hereditary can mean absolutely nothing for the present time, even being a native american. So many people believe their own environment is the worlds perspective.

First, what did I actually say? I said "true Socialism doesn't have s***es", read up on it and get back to me after you've educated yourself. Socialism is in direct defiance of s***ery, ideologically. Now, under a dictatorship, which it has always has been under, they are, in a sense, all s***es.

Socialism will never happen here, period, we all LOVE having MORE! Unless we are taken hold by the oligarch's or plutocrats who overturn our government, which is NOT impossible!

I never pretended to be "familiar" with the Indian situation, with that said I also know some history, I never pretend to know everything. Like EVERYONE on here, I state what I know (or what I think I know lol, if I'm incorrect I'd rather be corrected but make damn sure you are right) and my opinion.

In your second and third paragraphs, I agree with you.

I suspect my persona is t***sparent, I try to be but contrary to dividing and conquering, you're misreading me once again.
Well you are somewhat correct on some points, good... (show quote)


Baracuda, your response is most interesting, and I see where we are in conflict.

You write: "First, what did I actually say? I said "true Socialism doesn't have s***es", read up on it and get back to me after you've educated yourself. Socialism is in direct defiance of s***ery, ideologically. Now, under a dictatorship, which it has always has been under, they are, in a sense, all s***es."

You emphasize: "Socialism is in direct defiance of s***ery, ideologically."

"Ideologically" speaking, socialism is raw propaganda. Structurally socialism is top-down tyranny.

The oligarchs you abhor are socialists. Why don't you understand what "centralized planning" is?

The common man has no voice, either you get with the program or get k**led.

Free markets and mans rights to private property, (the opposite of a socialist economy), allow us common men to invent, create, and exchange good and services, and even more important, exchange ideas that advance everybody's wealth, dignity and security.

This cannot happen under a centralized economy, be it run by a dictator, feudal king, corporate monopoly, or bureaucracy of elite "experts" tooting PhDs, or a tribal chieftain. We were stuck in the stone-age in serfdom and bondage and misery until EXODUS, the resulting Judeo-Christian awakening and the American Revolution.

The lust for power coupled with unbridled arrogance has kept humanity in his cave for 2 million years. And only within the past 200 years and our Civil War have we been freed to explore the universe and determine our own needs as God intended us to be born free.

The best theology I have read on this is Alexander Solzhenitsyn's book "From Under the Rubble." It is a composite of economists and theologists thoughts [smuggled out of the Soviet Union] on how societies organize themselves, especially when big becomes Too Big and unmanageable, reducing humanity to an ant heap at the bottom of the pyramid.

I reiterate, socialism is s***ery.

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