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Jul 16, 2019 12:42:10   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I wouldn't recommend a gay person marrying a straight woman. Nope. Best to just stay single I'd say. The alcoholic needs to give up alcohol. that might mean staying away form others who drink. Like I said, it's their weakness and it needs to be dealt with in their own way. An alcoholic gives in to alcohol, they pay the price. The homosexual gives in to their desires for same seex sex, welp, it's their choice. I'm sure they can fall off the wagon as well. but to openly accept it and to live that life openly AND claim to be Christian? Well, that's just wrong and if the Christians are right, well, you know how it is.
I wouldn't recommend a gay person marrying a strai... (show quote)

Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism is i***tic.
Sorry Charlie, but millions of gay men and women are NOT going to give up companionships for life over some ridiculous notion that God will h**e them if they don’t.

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Jul 16, 2019 12:52:05   #
kemmer
 
kemmer wrote:
Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism is i***tic.
Sorry Charlie, but millions of gay men and women are NOT going to give up companionships for life over some ridiculous notion that God will h**e them if they don’t.

Wasn’t it Dick Cheney who complain homosexuality to kleptomania?

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Jul 16, 2019 13:14:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Miscarriage, also known as spontaneous a******n and pregnancy loss, is the natural death of an embryo or fetus before it is able to survive independently. Some use the cutoff of 20 weeks of gestation, after which fetal death is known as a stillbirth.

I vividly remember my children's mother being told her miscarriage was "God's Will."


Yes, but to say that babies self abort is to imply that they choose to do so.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:18:39   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Yes, but to say that babies self abort is to imply that they choose to do so.

No argument here.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:20:01   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism is i***tic.
Sorry Charlie, but millions of gay men and women are NOT going to give up companionships for life over some ridiculous notion that God will h**e them if they don’t.


How is it i***tic? Do you not see that food is an addiction for the obese? Or that it's a psychological illness?? Homosexuality is not natural and it has all of the chracteristics of an addiction. Homosexuals choose it to the exclusion of all things, despite their up bringing and its religious connotations.

As for the millions of gay folk not being willing to give up their relationships, so what. Many murderers don't give up their need to k**l. The obese gladly choose to over eat to the same conclusion; the detriment of their health and well being. Drug addicts give in to their "taste" for drugs and how they make them feel. Either way, they have the choice, no matter how hard it might be. We al have something like that in our lives; our self made purgatories, as Mr Spock would call it.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:20:46   #
Rose42
 
kemmer wrote:
I'll state the question again, re: homosexuality;
Why would God condemn a segment of the population solely due to their genetic disposition? Condemning them to live their entire lives without any emotional and physical companionship? That is NOT the God of love.


Other people have the tendency to be drunkards, adulterers, liars, thieves, fornicators, etc, etc. Homosexuality is no different than any of that. The others aren’t excused for giving in to temptation so why would homosexuals be?

God is a God of love and mercy. But He’s also a God of judgement. If one doesn’t repent their eternal life will be torment. Christ warned us numerous times.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:22:16   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
kemmer wrote:
No. But lumping gays with a******nists is bogus.


I thought we were discussing things which didn't bother anyone. You brought it up.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:38:30   #
Believer7
 
Homosexuality in all forms is a sin, just the same as lying and murder and stealing is a sin. God doesn't condone one above the other. Or below the other either. For we have all sinned and come short of the glory of God. ( Not " Gawd")
Romans 3:23 KJV

It is just as wrong in my estimation, and you can ask your pastor, for you to make light of the name of God by calling Him Gawd, as it is for a homosexual to practice their sexual preferences.
I believe in telling the t***h.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:39:44   #
kemmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Other people have the tendency to be drunkards, adulterers, liars, thieves, fornicators, etc, etc. Homosexuality is no different than any of that.

You desperately need a class in human sexuality, and another class in addictive behavior wouldn’t hurt. You’re totally in the dark about both.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:41:57   #
kemmer
 
Believer7 wrote:
I believe in telling the t***h.

Get back to us when you find it.

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Jul 16, 2019 13:47:34   #
kemmer
 
Rose42 wrote:

God is a God of love and mercy. But He’s also a God of judgement. If one doesn’t repent their eternal life will be torment. Christ warned us numerous times.

I’d rather enjoy my life now and not bother with the absurdity that a Father God would condemn his children to everlasting torture. An earthly father doing that would be put in jail.

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Jul 16, 2019 14:04:22   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism is i***tic.
Sorry Charlie, but millions of gay men and women are NOT going to give up companionships for life over some ridiculous notion that God will h**e them if they don’t.

Tell me kemmer, do you believe in "Do what thou wilt?"

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Jul 16, 2019 14:04:23   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
I’d rather enjoy my life now and not bother with the absurdity that a Father God would condemn his children to everlasting torture. An earthly father doing that would be put in jail.

You are in serious jeopardy. The war for your soul is being fought, and your soul is losing to an eternal life of misery.

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Jul 16, 2019 14:04:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
I’d rather enjoy my life now and not bother with the absurdity that a Father God would condemn his children to everlasting torture. An earthly father doing that would be put in jail.


That's not a problem. Everyone is free to choose t do what ever they choose to do. It's a free well issue. And, there might or might not be long term consequences. For those who claim to be Christians, it is something they must accept when they make the choices, I guess. That is, IF they actually believe what they claim to believe and what they claim to actually be.

I, like you, don't accept the Bible as literal so I don't actually think there is a hell or some eternal punishment so I don't fault what ever God there might be as being the absurd God you have described. I also don't like the new term "Father God." to me it's very cliche.

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Jul 16, 2019 14:05:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
Nope. 2500 years ago they didn't know what homosexuality was. How could they condemn it?
Yahweh knew what homosexuality is. He still does. He didn't give it a specific name, He described the practice in an easily understood phrase: If a man lies with a man as with a woman, both of them have committed an a*********n I reckon Yahweh knew that Moses would understand and that if the practice needed a name, it would come eventually.

The term "Homo Sapiens" was introduced in 1758 by Carl Linnaeus. Homo sapiens is Latin for "wise man". The first known use of the word "homosexual" in English is in Charles Gilbert Chaddock's 1892 t***slation of Richard von Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis, a study on sexual practices. The term was popularized by the 1906 Harden-Eulenburg Affair.

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