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Jun 2, 2014 12:02:15   #
rich278
 
If all the unions did was get Democrats elected that would be enough. But FWI they support trade schools, many members have to serve apprenticeships and produce the best skilled workers, they support local charities, and many other projects. I am relieved to know that there are is no corruption in management. The next time you drive past a golf course during the middle of the work week check out the players You can bet your ass their not union workers. When you drive down the highway and over the bridge thank the union workers that built it.
JMHO wrote:
And, where does the government get this money from? Trees? Think real hard about it.

Unions had a useful purpose back in the 30s, but today they're nothing but corrupt political machines who are nothing more than huge money laundering schemes. They collect dues and then funnel it to the Democrat Party. They inflate wages and they're rift with lazy irresponsible workers. Don't believe me? Just try and fire one.

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Jun 2, 2014 12:14:25   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
Well 3jack it would seem jmho has run out names to call us and he cannot argue with the real facts that you laid out, typical Rethugliclan.


Real facts????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You two morons wouldn't know the true facts if they hit you between the eyes!!!!!

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Jun 2, 2014 12:15:59   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
One thing is for sure, debating you two idiots just proves one can not argue with a moron. It takes a little gray matter to conduct a meaningful adult conversation, something you two morons seriously lack.


There isn't any debate on this issue. You complained that the Democratic led Senate has not acted on many jobs bills sent by the HOR. I factually showed you that, while some of those bills could be considered to be jobs bills, they all had BS issues attached.

The only one lacking gray matter is you, in that you think you can post BS and expect no one to challenge your post, particularly when the post seems to be too good to be true. Such was your claim about GOP jobs bills.

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Jun 2, 2014 12:18:11   #
rich278
 
You ask where does the government get this money from. You are living under the false ideology that The GOP spends less than the DFL. I would direct you to Google "spending by presidents" you will see that other than FDR, who had to clean up Hoovers mess, and pay for a world war, that Rethugliclans always outspend the DFL.
rich278 wrote:
If all the unions did was get Democrats elected that would be enough. But FWI they support trade schools, many members have to serve apprenticeships and produce the best skilled workers, they support local charities, and many other projects. I am relieved to know that there are is no corruption in management. The next time you drive past a golf course during the middle of the work week check out the players You can bet your ass their not union workers. When you drive down the highway and over the bridge thank the union workers that built it.
If all the unions did was get Democrats elected th... (show quote)

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Jun 2, 2014 12:30:34   #
rich278
 
3jack you cheated, you used facts instead of "fair and balanced quotes"
3jack wrote:
There isn't any debate on this issue. You complained that the Democratic led Senate has not acted on many jobs bills sent by the HOR. I factually showed you that, while some of those bills could be considered to be jobs bills, they all had BS issues attached.

The only one lacking gray matter is you, in that you think you can post BS and expect no one to challenge your post, particularly when the post seems to be too good to be true. Such was your claim about GOP jobs bills.

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Jun 2, 2014 12:33:52   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
You ask where does the government get this money from. You are living under the false ideology that The GOP spends less than the DFL. I would direct you to Google "spending by presidents" you will see that other than FDR, who had to clean up Hoovers mess, and pay for a world war, that Rethugliclans always outspend the DFL.


I'll give you some credit on this one. George W did increase spending, no doubt about it, and I did not agree with it. And, the GOP establishment likes to spend money too, which is one big reason I am a Tea Party member. But, having said that, Obama, and the Democrats have taken it to a whole new level. Bush ran up a little over $5T in eight years, but Obama has run up over $7T in less than 6 years...and, he's still running a deficit. The past two fiscal years have brought in record amount of tax revenue to the Treasury, and we're still running a $700B budget deficit! The economy is in the slowest recovery since WWII, in fact it retracted 1% last quarter.

We have a $17.5T national debt right now, the interest on that debt is going to take more and more out of the budget as inflation increases. And, if you haven't noticed lately food prices and energy prices are increasing at rapid paces. That wasn't helped by Obama's newest executive action in declaring war on coal powered plants.

As for your bogus statement "FDR, who had to clean up Hoovers mess" really shows your ignorance on economics. FDR took a Depression that should have lasted only 3-4 years at the most, and stretched it out for 16 years due to his disastrous economic policies. He increased taxes on everything! He stifled economic growth! It took a World War to get out of his economic mess. Obama is doing the same thing, and I hope to God it does not require another World War to get us out of this mess.

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Jun 2, 2014 12:37:54   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
3jack wrote:
There isn't any debate on this issue. You complained that the Democratic led Senate has not acted on many jobs bills sent by the HOR. I factually showed you that, while some of those bills could be considered to be jobs bills, they all had BS issues attached.

The only one lacking gray matter is you, in that you think you can post BS and expect no one to challenge your post, particularly when the post seems to be too good to be true. Such was your claim about GOP jobs bills.


Debate? Where is your debate? You spout a bunch of BS and call that a debate? You haven't proven a darn thing!

The democrats, and Obama, have a net loss in job gains and will continue to have negative job growth with their progressive and socialist economic plans. The current (and past six years) labor statistics prove that.

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Jun 2, 2014 12:46:07   #
rich278
 
If FDR was still alive he would still be president, the working class folks loved him. Obama may have inherited the same kind of mess, history will tell. John Boener said deficits don't matter.
JMHO wrote:
I'll give you some credit on this one. George W did increase spending, no doubt about it, and I did not agree with it. And, the GOP establishment likes to spend money too, which is one big reason I am a Tea Party member. But, having said that, Obama, and the Democrats have taken it to a whole new level. Bush ran up a little over $5T in eight years, but Obama has run up over $7T in less than 6 years...and, he's still running a deficit. The past two fiscal years have brought in record amount of tax revenue to the Treasury, and we're still running a $700B budget deficit! The economy is in the slowest recovery since WWII, in fact it retracted 1% last quarter.

We have a $17.5T national debt right now, the interest on that debt is going to take more and more out of the budget as inflation increases. And, if you haven't noticed lately food prices and energy prices are increasing at rapid paces. That wasn't helped by Obama's newest executive action in declaring war on coal powered plants.

As for your bogus statement "FDR, who had to clean up Hoovers mess" really shows your ignorance on economics. FDR took a Depression that should have lasted only 3-4 years at the most, and stretched it out for 16 years due to his disastrous economic policies. He increased taxes on everything! He stifled economic growth! It took a World War to get out of his economic mess. Obama is doing the same thing, and I hope to God it does not require another World War to get us out of this mess.
I'll give you some credit on this one. George W d... (show quote)

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Jun 2, 2014 16:46:29   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
Debate? Where is your debate? You spout a bunch of BS and call that a debate? You haven't proven a darn thing!

The democrats, and Obama, have a net loss in job gains and will continue to have negative job growth with their progressive and socialist economic plans. The current (and past six years) labor statistics prove that.


I see you have a comprehension problem. I stated that there is no debate. Facts are facts with no room for debate.

I proved that your claim of GOP initiated jobs bill that are stuck in the Senate are not worthy of votes because they are filled with BS attachments. Read the bills, then get back to me with proof that they are truly jobs bills.
Post your net loss in jobs numbers and your labor statistics numbers from a reliable source to back up your claims. Don't tell me, show me.

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Jun 2, 2014 19:02:53   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
If FDR was still alive he would still be president, the working class folks loved him. Obama may have inherited the same kind of mess, history will tell. John Boener said deficits don't matter.


My folks, who survived the Depression sure didn't like him, and they were working folk. FDR was a socialist, like Obama, and his economic policies were disasters.

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Jun 2, 2014 19:06:22   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
3jack wrote:
I see you have a comprehension problem. I stated that there is no debate. Facts are facts with no room for debate.

I proved that your claim of GOP initiated jobs bill that are stuck in the Senate are not worthy of votes because they are filled with BS attachments. Read the bills, then get back to me with proof that they are truly jobs bills.
Post your net loss in jobs numbers and your labor statistics numbers from a reliable source to back up your claims. Don't tell me, show me.


You have the comprehension problem, not to mention some dementia problems. The BS attachments you mention, that is according to your socialist feeble minded opinion, which isn't fact.

"Post your net loss in jobs numbers and your labor statistics numbers from a reliable source to back up your claims. Don't tell me, show me?" Screw you! It's a matter of record, look it up yourself you lazy leftie! There are plenty of sources.

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Jun 2, 2014 19:26:58   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
3jack wrote:
I see you have a comprehension problem. I stated that there is no debate. Facts are facts with no room for debate.

I proved that your claim of GOP initiated jobs bill that are stuck in the Senate are not worthy of votes because they are filled with BS attachments. Read the bills, then get back to me with proof that they are truly jobs bills.
Post your net loss in jobs numbers and your labor statistics numbers from a reliable source to back up your claims. Don't tell me, show me.


Here are just a few links for you mr. lazy.

Do the math, Mr. Obama, you've run out of excuses on jobs. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/07/do-math-mr-obama-your-excuses-about-jobs-have-run-out/

President Obama, and the Myth About 4.5 Million New Jobs. http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2012/08/13/president_obama_and_the_myth_about_45_million_new_jobs_99816.html

Obama Shrunk Private Sector by 8.5M Jobs. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/01/obama_shrunk_private_sector_by_8_5m_jobs

Fact check: 4.5 million new jobs created under Obama? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-ticket/fact-check-4-5-million-jobs-created-under-175621036--election.html

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Jun 2, 2014 19:28:46   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
You have the comprehension problem, not to mention some dementia problems. The BS attachments you mention, that is according to your socialist feeble minded opinion, which isn't fact.

"Post your net loss in jobs numbers and your labor statistics numbers from a reliable source to back up your claims. Don't tell me, show me?" Screw you! It's a matter of record, look it up yourself you lazy leftie! There are plenty of sources.


It's a matter of record only in your warped assed mind. Name one source moron. Keep posting your BS and I will continued to throw the BS flag at you whether you like it or not

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Jun 2, 2014 19:32:38   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
Here are just a few links for you mr. lazy. br br... (show quote)


Your stupidity is underwhelming. What does these right wing/tea party links have to do with GOP initiated jobs bills? Absolutely nothing...it's just you trying to run from your idiotic post about jobs bills stalling in the Senate.

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Jun 2, 2014 19:50:54   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
3jack wrote:
Your stupidity is underwhelming. What does these right wing/tea party links have to do with GOP initiated jobs bills? Absolutely nothing...it's just you trying to run from your idiotic post about jobs bills stalling in the Senate.


My stupidity is overwhelming? I'm surprised that you can even spell the word considering your handicap...having had a frontal lobotomy. You just asked about job numbers moron, and I provided the info. I wash my hands with you, I don't like debating people who are absolute morons. Go debate with some kindergarten kids or something, someone more down to your level.

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