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Jun 1, 2014 08:45:34   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
You are so right, the private sector does create most jobs, but it is the government that pays for the bridges, roads, schools, fire halls, municipal swimming pools, and many other projects, non of which the GOP has proposed since their big campaign in 2010 that used the slogan jobs,jobs,jobs. Remember Congress (House of Representatives.) pays the bills. But we all know that most of these jobs (at least where I come from) are union jobs and all Republicans are anti union.


And, where does the government get this money from? Trees? Think real hard about it.

Unions had a useful purpose back in the 30s, but today they're nothing but corrupt political machines who are nothing more than huge money laundering schemes. They collect dues and then funnel it to the Democrat Party. They inflate wages and they're rift with lazy irresponsible workers. Don't believe me? Just try and fire one.

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Jun 1, 2014 08:47:36   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
Neither side creates jobs. The private sector creates jobs. That's where the focus should be.


The private sector can not create jobs if they're overburdened by higher taxes and government regulations, which are controlled by Congress. They go hand in hand.

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Jun 1, 2014 10:19:43   #
rich278
 
Just like I said all rhetoric and name calling. Did you forget how many net jobs were created when George W. gave the Millionaires the big tax breaks? Try this number 0. There has always been tax write offs for business investments, but I'm sure you have never been in business.
JMHO wrote:
And, you are the typical uneducated narrow-minded Dimowit, who is all rhetoric and without facts. Of course you took one of the largest new jobs producer off the table by removing tax cuts. Reduce taxes and you get more disposable income in the consumers pocket, but more importantly you free up more money for capital investment, which creates new business and leads to hiring more workers.

As for the list of bills you asked for, try this list for a start.

http://kelly.house.gov/sites/kelly.house.gov/files/documents/Jobs.PDF
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Jun 1, 2014 10:33:47   #
rich278
 
All presumed bills are either corporate welfare, lifting of pollution laws, removing worker safety regulations or promoting non union companies. How much time did they spend on repealing the ACA. What were Mitch McConnell's words. "My main job now is to be sure this president doesn't get reelected." How did that work out by the way? You seem to forget the more jobs available in the US the more Union participation there is, thus more money to donate to the DFL. The DFL is not in the business of stifling jobs. Any proposal by the Right is designed to screw the working man, and should be voted down.
rich278 wrote:
Just like I said all rhetoric and name calling. Did you forget how many net jobs were created when George W. gave the Millionaires the big tax breaks? Try this number 0. There has always been tax write offs for business investments, but I'm sure you have never been in business.

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Jun 1, 2014 10:52:30   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
Just like I said all rhetoric and name calling. Did you forget how many net jobs were created when George W. gave the Millionaires the big tax breaks? Try this number 0. There has always been tax write offs for business investments, but I'm sure you have never been in business.


Man, what planet do you spend most of your time on? And, where do you get your BOGUS STATS? Bush had a record 52 straight months of economic growth, and an unemployment rate as low as 4.3%. He created over eight million jobs. Don't come back and tell me that Obama created over eight million jobs too, without including the eleven million jobs lost under him. Bush had a net gain of new jobs, not a net loss like Obama.

BTW, moron, I have owned my own business for several years, so don't try and educate me on tax write offs, or on tax laws period. You sir, are clueless on current tax laws. I suggest you do some research into the current restrictive tax laws so you don't sound so stupid when trying to create a bogus argument that you seem to be real good at.

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Jun 1, 2014 20:36:53   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
And, you are the typical uneducated narrow-minded Dimowit, who is all rhetoric and without facts. Of course you took one of the largest new jobs producer off the table by removing tax cuts. Reduce taxes and you get more disposable income in the consumers pocket, but more importantly you free up more money for capital investment, which creates new business and leads to hiring more workers.

As for the list of bills you asked for, try this list for a start.

http://kelly.house.gov/sites/kelly.house.gov/files/documents/Jobs.PDF
And, you are the typical uneducated narrow-minded ... (show quote)


How about posting a site that allows one to open and read what's in those bills. A bunch of bills showing no content is quite disingenuous. Maybe there's something to be hidden, like GOP BS added to those bills.

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Jun 1, 2014 21:15:29   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
Okay bright boy, just how does ONE BRANCH of the government create jobs? The GOP only controls the House, and anything initiated by them is squelched in the Senate. Now, if you're of the thinking that the Democrats can create jobs, I have to ask "where are the jobs?" The Dems controlled all three branches for two years and "where are the jobs?" The dirty little secret is that the Dems are not interested in creating jobs, they're only interested in creating a permanent underclass that will keep voting for them and their handouts.

Wake up.
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Here are some of the bills passed in the HOR as jobs bills with the "poison pills" included.

HR 3630 - The Middle Class Tax Relief & Job Creation Act of 2011
•In addition to freezing federal workers' pay for three years, it requires issuance of a permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline in advance of the proposed routing by Nebraska, suspends the newly-issued mercury regulations and extends 100% expensing of business equipment (including private jets).
•With regard to unemployment insurance benefits, it cuts the 99-week maximum down to a 59-week maximum by mid-2012, allow states to drug-test UI recipients, and allow states to reduce state unemployment benefits and substitute federal funds. It also cuts funding for key provisions of the Affordable Care Act coming online

HR 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
.Expand job immigration beyond current limits by eliminating employment-based immigrant visa caps and raising the percentage of total visas granted to 15% from 7%. For this one, I'll say it IS a jobs bill, but not a jobs bill for American workers. It is the "Elite Immigration Jobs Bill of 2011".

These are the types of GOP "Jobs Bills" sitting in the Senate for approval..... Hell will freeze over before they're voted on.

Two years of a Democratically controlled Senate, two months with a filibuster proof majority, and a record number of GOP filibusters thereafter. Get the point?

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Jun 2, 2014 08:26:54   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
3jack wrote:
How about posting a site that allows one to open and read what's in those bills. A bunch of bills showing no content is quite disingenuous. Maybe there's something to be hidden, like GOP BS added to those bills.


So, what you're saying is that you're either too lazy, or incapable of looking them up on your own? I know you liberals like some one else do your work for you, but in this case you're on your own, pal.

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Jun 2, 2014 09:27:28   #
rich278
 
3jack you nailed it. The GOP BS contained in those bills are why they are not being passed. I have to laugh at these fools that think the labor party is anti jobs.
JMHO wrote:
So, what you're saying is that you're either too lazy, or incapable of looking them up on your own? I know you liberals like some one else do your work for you, but in this case you're on your own, pal.

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Jun 2, 2014 09:35:24   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
3jack you nailed it. The GOP BS contained in those bills are why they are not being passed. I have to laugh at these fools that think the labor party is anti jobs.


How can one be so ignorant? Combine your brain with 3Jack's, and it still would not show up under a microscope.

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Jun 2, 2014 09:47:00   #
rich278
 
You forgot to include the name calling.
JMHO wrote:
How can one be so ignorant? Combine your brain with 3Jack's, and it still would not show up under a microscope.

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Jun 2, 2014 09:53:06   #
rich278
 
3jack you have the GOP's number all smoke no fire. They have a better health care system than the ACA, only nobody has ever seen it. They have done nothing in congress for 2 years, it might go down as the worst congress ever.
rich278 wrote:
You forgot to include the name calling.

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Jun 2, 2014 09:53:27   #
3jack
 
JMHO wrote:
So, what you're saying is that you're either too lazy, or incapable of looking them up on your own? I know you liberals like some one else do your work for you, but in this case you're on your own, pal.


Yeah pal, You're the lazy one. Posting a PDF document from a tea bagging repugnican congressman's website. BTW, I did take the time to research a couple of those BS bills, and that's what they are.....BS.

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Jun 2, 2014 11:13:58   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
rich278 wrote:
3jack you have the GOP's number all smoke no fire. They have a better health care system than the ACA, only nobody has ever seen it. They have done nothing in congress for 2 years, it might go down as the worst congress ever.


3jack wrote:
Yeah pal, You're the lazy one. Posting a PDF document from a tea bagging repugnican congressman's website. BTW, I did take the time to research a couple of those BS bills, and that's what they are.....BS.


One thing is for sure, debating you two idiots just proves one can not argue with a moron. It takes a little gray matter to conduct a meaningful adult conversation, something you two morons seriously lack.

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Jun 2, 2014 11:46:38   #
rich278
 
Well 3jack it would seem jmho has run out names to call us and he cannot argue with the real facts that you laid out, typical Rethugliclan.
JMHO wrote:
One thing is for sure, debating you two idiots just proves one can not argue with a moron. It takes a little gray matter to conduct a meaningful adult conversation, something you two morons seriously lack.

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