maryjane

Do you really believe our nation's founders (no i*****l a***ns then) meant for foreign noncitizens should be allowed to have great impact on our government? And what nation (other than the USA) would even allow citizens of other nations to determine its government? To do this is deliberately giving other nations and THEIR people power over our government and how it will act. I can't thing of anything more dangerous for a nation's successful future! No one involved in the building of this country of America ever intended anyone but American citizens having ANY say in the operation of this country.

maryjane

No, I do want all foreign noncitizens counted but kept as a separate group from citizens, because (though I doubt its validity) we need to KNOW who is living in our country. But these people should NOT be part of determining the number of congressional representatives a state is entitled to have, should NOT be used in determining federal funds to a state so if any state chooses to take in millions of i*****l a***ns that state itself must FOOT the bill for them in every way.

Candy dog

This is just another move by republicans to turn things in their favor.
Republicans only want republicans to v**e and they do everything they can to deny Americans their rights.

rafterman Loc: South Florida

Some interesting observations.
To prove the 700,000 number formula: Multiplying 53 (the number of House members for California) by 700,000 = 37.1 million. California's 2010 population was 37.27. The population in 2018 is estimated to be about 39.56. Looks like California will be getting an additional 3 to 56 (39,560,000 / 700,000 = 56.514). Note: The population numbers are taken from #3 & 4 below.

Florida & New York are both at 27 House members. So, 27 X 700,000 = 18.9 million (New York’s 2010 population was 19.58). Note: 2018 population is 19.54 so a slight decrease (does that mean people are moving out because of all the taxes? Hmmmm!) Florida will get an increase to 30 based on the population estimate of 21.29 as in 2018. I wonder all those people who lived in New York moved to Florida.

The population in the U.S. in 2010 was 308,745,538, an increase of 9.7% from 2000 as per this link: https://tinyurl.com/2010-Population
The projected population in the U.S. in 2020 is 334,500,000. For projected population estimates through 2060 go to this link: https://tinyurl.com/projections-to-2060

REMEMBER: By law, the maximum number in the House is set at 435; so if California and Florida INCREASE their number of Representatives after the 2020 Census, they’ve got to be taken from somewhere. By law, each state MUST have at least one member in the House, which means smaller populated states like New Hampshire, Maine, Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South & North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming all have a population of less that 1.4 million, so each only get/have one Representative. (Each state has two Senators, again a fixed number by law). So how House of Representatives are proportionately divvied up after the 2020 Census is another matter, which if you really want to know how it’s done, see the links in #3 & 4 below. A point of interest is that in 2060, the projected population is 416.8 million, which is about 100 million in the next 40 years (OOPs! that an increase of 1/3 of the current population).

Federal law, passed on Aug. 8, 1911, determines how many members are in the House of Representatives. That measure raised the number of representatives to 435 from 391 because of population growth in the United States. ... The law that set the current number of seats at 435 took effect in 1913. The House passed the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929, fixing the number of Representatives at 435 (see this link: https://tinyurl.com/yyvapw4z).

1. For the population by state from the 2010 Census, go to this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_Census
2. For the most current census figures by state are from 2018 along with the population from 2010, as well as the total of House seats by state see this link: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population

3. Federal law, passed on Aug. 8, 1911, determines how many members are in the House of Representatives. That measure raised the number of representatives to 435 from 391 because of population growth in the United States. ... The law that set the current number of seats at 435 took effect in 1913. The House passed the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929, fixing the number of Representatives at 435 (see this link: https://tinyurl.com/yyvapw4z). If you’re interested in doing some (dry and boring) reading about the proportional representation, go to the following link:
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Proportional-Representation/.

It seems to me that the House is due to change the formula soon because the population is going to explode in the next 40 years.

4. If you’re into all the mumbo-jumbo of how the numbers are computed (please somebody tell me it ain’t so hard), go to the U.S. Census Bureau website for Congressional Apportionment at the following link: https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/computing.html

5. For a list of the configuration of the House of Representative by state go to this link: https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-States-House-of-Representatives-Seats-by-State-1787120

kemmer

You do realize this is 2019, right?

kemmer

This isn’t a pissing contest, pal.

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

OK, but that's a pretty cheap way to find something we actually agree on...

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Taxpayer money should never go to the illegal border crossers. They didn't pay into this tax and shouldn't get anything from the taxpayer.

bggamers Loc: georgia

Please use quote reply under the person your replying to so we all know who your reply is for.