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Jun 24, 2019 09:27:37   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
badbob85037 wrote:
If the United States went to war with the rest of the world we would win. We are the only super power and only nation capable of producing an army anyplace on Earth in a moment notice. Our Navy would control the seas as not only the largest but most advanced. Any country we felt a threat would be pounded with munitions from our war ships. Our air power would cut off the supply of oil to the world why we produce our own from here in the states. Our homeland would remain untouched as no nation has the ability to reach us with any type of assaulting army. Even trying such a move would put their nation at risk

If nukes are used then forget everything I said. As far as Iran, that nation has been a thorn in our side for decades. I just wish our war ships when Iran does one of their little mock attacks our ship would put the fear of God in them turning these little boats to splinters. But I don't want war just a small battle to let them know who they are Fing with.
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Do you have any military experience? The military if you remember are volunteers, the operational tempo or optemp was more then we could handle when I discharged. From what has be reported there are to many incidents that prove that the military dosen't have enough time to train. At one time the rule of three was in operation.Meaning one section active , one section training , and one section resting. When you have to call up the reserves and turn them into active personnel your active military isn't enough. The more HI tech you go the more portable power is needed. As for land warfare it'll proably be guerilla. The control of the seas will be lost as soon as the ships lose support. The airforce precently can't seem to decide what type of airframe is needed. By not supporting airframes that work they are putting air support in an unstable condition.

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Jun 24, 2019 12:27:27   #
F.D.R.
 
The government of Iran must be taken down and the sooner the better. It will not lead to WWIII because neither Russia or China would risk war with us to save Iran. I fear China more than Russia mainly because of the culture of honor and self sacrifice, unlike today's younger Americans whose idea of sacrifice is a dead cell phone battery.

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Jun 24, 2019 12:31:20   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Do You Think War with Iran is Likely?
By David Jolly - June 22, 2019

The country that we refer to as just Iran is formally known as the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Although Iran has a president, Hassan Rouhani, who actually has limited powers, the real leadership of Iran is held by Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, who has held that position since June 1989, making him the second longest national leader in the Middle East after Sultan Qaboos of Oman.

Iran has long clashed, politically, ideologically and religiously, with the United States.

On November 4, 1979, Iranian students (or so they claim( stormed the US embassy in Tehran, the nation’s capital, and took 52 US diplomats and citizens hostages and it was obvious that they were fully supported by Iranian government. The hostages were held for 444 days.

Barack Obama and the Secretary of State John Kerry tried to win the friendship of the Iranian leadership by negotiating the infamous nuclear deal. As it turns out, it was just like we tell our kids – that you can’t buy friends and Obama didn’t. Iran’s growing hostility to the United States along with their violations of the nuclear deal led President Trump to withdraw from the nuclear deal. The US withdrawal re-instated many of the harsh sanctions against Iran.

Tensions between Iran and the US have been escalating in the past couple of months, with our intelligent sources reporting that Iran has made credible threats against the United States, our military in the region and our allies.

Since those threats were made, Iran has begun targeting oil tankers as they move through the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman.

In the latest incident, two oil tankers were rocked with explosions and US sources have video of Iranian gunboats placing magnetic mines along the hulls of one of the tankers and then trying to remove a mine that didn’t explode.

President Trump has responded by deploying a major aircraft carrier task force, along with a task force of fighter planes to the area.

I heard one person report that tensions and the possibility of war between the US and Iran are currently as volatile as someone dropping a cigarette into a tank filled with gasoline.

So, how would you respond to these two questions if asked:

1* How likely is it that Iran is responsible for two torpedo attacks against oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman – very likely, somewhat likely, not very likely, or not at all likely?
2* How likely is it that increasing tensions in the Middle East between Iran and the United States will lead to war?
Rasmussen Reports asked those questions to likely v**ers and here is how they responded:

Most v**ers suspect Iran of the recent torpedo attacks in the Gulf of Oman and say there’s a good chance of war for the United States in the days ahead.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 68% of Likely U.S. V**ers think it’s likely Iran is responsible for two torpedo attacks against oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, with 36% who say it’s Very Likely. Just 15% say Iranian involvement is not very or Not At All Likely, but slightly more (17%) are undecided.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe it’s likely that increasing tensions in the Middle East between Iran and the United States will lead to war. Thirty-two percent (32%) consider that unlikely. However, this includes only 17% who see war with Iran as Very Likely and four percent (4%) who say it’s Not At All Likely. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.
Most v**ers across the partisan spectrum think a U.S. war with Iran is likely, but Democrats (64%) are more convinced than Republicans (50%) and v**ers not affiliated with either major political party (56%).
Do you agree with the general consensus or are you more optimistic and believe that war can and will be averted?

My question is this – If war breaks out between Iran and the United States, will it lead to World War III with Russia and China siding with Iran?
Do You Think War with Iran is Likely? br By David ... (show quote)


you're asking a question that no one on OPP is qualified to answer
however ,I don,t think either Russia nor China wants to have war with the USA
at the present time
now Iran is a different story
they h**e the USA and their rulers are insane

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Jun 24, 2019 13:18:13   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
you're asking a question that no one on OPP is qualified to answer
however ,I don,t think either Russia nor China wants to have war with the USA
at the present time
now Iran is a different story
they h**e the USA and their rulers are insane


Amen and Amen I agree.

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Jun 24, 2019 14:12:23   #
Hug
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen I agree.


It is difficult to reason with Iran because of their ideology. They don't care how much suffering is necessary to accomplish their reason for living, which is to give the world to Allah. Of course war will be necessary at some time in the future, if not now.

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Jun 24, 2019 14:21:47   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Hug wrote:
It is difficult to reason with Iran because of their ideology. They don't care how much suffering is necessary to accomplish their reason for living, which is to give the world to Allah. Of course war will be necessary at some time in the future, if not now.


Iran shoved us and called us a punk.
Trump laid back and that surprised me, and I suppose the rest of the world.
Maybe Trump talks loudly and carries a twig.
I hope not.

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Jun 24, 2019 23:13:39   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
bahmer wrote:
Do You Think War with Iran is Likely?
By David Jolly - June 22, 2019

The country that we refer to as just Iran is formally known as the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Although Iran has a president, Hassan Rouhani, who actually has limited powers, the real leadership of Iran is held by Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, who has held that position since June 1989, making him the second longest national leader in the Middle East after Sultan Qaboos of Oman.

Iran has long clashed, politically, ideologically and religiously, with the United States.

On November 4, 1979, Iranian students (or so they claim( stormed the US embassy in Tehran, the nation’s capital, and took 52 US diplomats and citizens hostages and it was obvious that they were fully supported by Iranian government. The hostages were held for 444 days.

Barack Obama and the Secretary of State John Kerry tried to win the friendship of the Iranian leadership by negotiating the infamous nuclear deal. As it turns out, it was just like we tell our kids – that you can’t buy friends and Obama didn’t. Iran’s growing hostility to the United States along with their violations of the nuclear deal led President Trump to withdraw from the nuclear deal. The US withdrawal re-instated many of the harsh sanctions against Iran.

Tensions between Iran and the US have been escalating in the past couple of months, with our intelligent sources reporting that Iran has made credible threats against the United States, our military in the region and our allies.

Since those threats were made, Iran has begun targeting oil tankers as they move through the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman.

In the latest incident, two oil tankers were rocked with explosions and US sources have video of Iranian gunboats placing magnetic mines along the hulls of one of the tankers and then trying to remove a mine that didn’t explode.

President Trump has responded by deploying a major aircraft carrier task force, along with a task force of fighter planes to the area.

I heard one person report that tensions and the possibility of war between the US and Iran are currently as volatile as someone dropping a cigarette into a tank filled with gasoline.

So, how would you respond to these two questions if asked:

1* How likely is it that Iran is responsible for two torpedo attacks against oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman – very likely, somewhat likely, not very likely, or not at all likely?
2* How likely is it that increasing tensions in the Middle East between Iran and the United States will lead to war?
Rasmussen Reports asked those questions to likely v**ers and here is how they responded:

Most v**ers suspect Iran of the recent torpedo attacks in the Gulf of Oman and say there’s a good chance of war for the United States in the days ahead.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 68% of Likely U.S. V**ers think it’s likely Iran is responsible for two torpedo attacks against oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, with 36% who say it’s Very Likely. Just 15% say Iranian involvement is not very or Not At All Likely, but slightly more (17%) are undecided.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe it’s likely that increasing tensions in the Middle East between Iran and the United States will lead to war. Thirty-two percent (32%) consider that unlikely. However, this includes only 17% who see war with Iran as Very Likely and four percent (4%) who say it’s Not At All Likely. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.
Most v**ers across the partisan spectrum think a U.S. war with Iran is likely, but Democrats (64%) are more convinced than Republicans (50%) and v**ers not affiliated with either major political party (56%).
Do you agree with the general consensus or are you more optimistic and believe that war can and will be averted?

My question is this – If war breaks out between Iran and the United States, will it lead to World War III with Russia and China siding with Iran?
Do You Think War with Iran is Likely? br By David ... (show quote)


very likely they are pushing the buttons as we speak on a televised talk show spoke of America being afraid of war with Iran because they are going to put us in the garbage and erase Israel from the map

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Jun 24, 2019 23:45:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Some numbers you might find interesting...

Iran
https://youtu.be/nxig7mx3uUQ

Russia
https://youtu.be/KjSPU0gEqdc

China
https://youtu.be/IeZMrHhoFjg


would appear China squashes us with how many people they have but in equipment availability, it is large in some areas with them and other areas for us Iran doesn't even click as far as a war they would be devastated. Russia close to even but in some areas they lack all in all we would do ok but not if they join together

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Jun 24, 2019 23:46:19   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
F.D.R. wrote:
The government of Iran must be taken down and the sooner the better. It will not lead to WWIII because neither Russia or China would risk war with us to save Iran. I fear China more than Russia mainly because of the culture of honor and self sacrifice, unlike today's younger Americans whose idea of sacrifice is a dead cell phone battery.


biggest fight they will get in is finding their own underwear

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Jun 24, 2019 23:48:28   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Iran shoved us and called us a punk.
Trump laid back and that surprised me, and I suppose the rest of the world.
Maybe Trump talks loudly and carries a twig.
I hope not.


He had called for a strike calmer mines had him pull back because of the loss of life wasn't worth the loss of a drone. They keep pushing and they won't have enough pieces to put anything back together

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Jun 25, 2019 07:56:21   #
I.R. Wayright
 
If our military were unleashed Afghanistan would be a foot note in history by now. Why isn't it?
Asymmetric warfare, unconventional tactics and touchy~feely leadership.
I would urge caution when dealing with either Russia or China. They are developing weapon systems we haven't figured out how to defeat yet and if either one sunk a carrier, what would we do? Go nuclear?
Goodbye world as we know it.
The best strategy concerning Iran is to wait out the sanctions and let the Iranian people, who are sick and tired of living under strict Islamic rule, take care of the problem.
If you want a glimpse into the not so rosey future, I urge you to read "The Hundred Year Marathon," by Michael Pillsbury. (The Chinese C*******ts want to rule the world by 2049 and are ahead of schedule.)

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Jun 25, 2019 09:48:27   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
bggamers wrote:
would appear China squashes us with how many people they have but in equipment availability, it is large in some areas with them and other areas for us Iran doesn't even click as far as a war they would be devastated. Russia close to even but in some areas they lack all in all we would do ok but not if they join together


That’s true. We would probably need some assistance from our allies. I got to thinking, these numbers reflect the capabilities that we know of, there are of course the uncountable secret weapons that we all have, and are not told about.

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Jun 25, 2019 11:39:00   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
That’s true. We would probably need some assistance from our allies. I got to thinking, these numbers reflect the capabilities that we know of, there are of course the uncountable secret weapons that we all have, and are not told about.


have read china had built a seaport recently on the Bahama coast

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Jun 25, 2019 12:24:38   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
bggamers wrote:
have read china had built a seaport recently on the Bahama coast


Yeah I heard that too, I’ve been meaning to look into that, thanks for reminding me.

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Jun 25, 2019 12:27:36   #
Mikeyavelli
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Yeah I heard that too, I’ve been meaning to look into that, thanks for reminding me.


I was at a Republican Meeting, and brought that up. No one, not even the congressman knew about it.

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