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Jun 14, 2019 20:08:17   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
He didn't say he would "accept" anything! He said he would listen!! Get over it drama queen!


Do you have a clue to ethics? The very offer is a breach of his office. Why would he offer to listen to dirt on a political opponent? Upon contact with a foreign national offering it is where you call the FBI and refuse to listen, not see if it is juicy enough for gain. Jeez louise, get some moral spine and not cowtow to that brute Trump all the time out of h**e for liberals.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:20:18   #
debeda
 
dongreen76 wrote:
A concensus,would say if something of value has value.Mr philosopher of semantics.I think that if two people are in a race,( for arguments sake,let's say foot race) and some gives one member of the race,a steroid,or gives him any device, physical or what ever, that will impede the others participants effort towards winning the race and the one who was given the steroid,or was given the impeding device which causes his opponent to lose the race,I'm sure a concensus would say that the device or steroid had some value to the winner of the race.
A concensus,would say if something of value has va... (show quote)


Again, what if the information is valueless in any sense of the word

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Jun 14, 2019 20:24:08   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
Interesting question. For it to be a crime, Trump would have to accept something of value from a foreign government. If turned out to be a nothing-burger, no foul, I guess. Yet that is not really the point. That the leader of the Free World would state that he'd accept "dirt on his political opponents" is a disgrace to our country's image and office of the president. Those are the actions of a petty dictator.


I listened to the interview there was more to it than that. He also said he'd turn the information (and I'd assume the informant) over to the FBI

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Jun 14, 2019 20:26:59   #
dongreen76
 
archie bunker wrote:
He didn't say he would "accept" anything! He said he would listen!! Get over it drama queen!

You didn't hear the full context of what Trump said,he said that wh**ever information that the divulger told him he would use.Accept it ,you apathetic listless queen.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:28:34   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
dongreen76 wrote:
You didn't hear the full context of what Trump said,he said that wh**ever information that the divulger told him he would use.Accept it ,you apathetic listless queen.


LIAR!!..He never said he would use it...

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Jun 14, 2019 20:38:43   #
Carol Kelly
 
rumitoid wrote:
Your Fantasy Hit Parade of Non-events is fascinating.


You will get it, too. Just because you join them doesn’t give you immunity.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:41:57   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
Again, what if the information is valueless in any sense of the word


Answered that and it doesn't matter as far as a point of ethics.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:43:34   #
dongreen76
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
It is not of value unless he benefits in some way. Just listening by itself does not create value. Also, he is still the POTUS and has to look out for national interest so if the information shows actions or potential actions that are harmful to America there is not crime.


What he said castes doubt about what Trump Jr.said concerning his meeting with the russian representative, whom told Trump Jr. that she had some information on Hilary Clinton that Russia thought might help his dad (Trump Sr.) win the e******n.According to the Junior Trump,that was as far as it went.He didn't pursue the matter any further;since his daddy said of the hypothetical situation George Stephanopoulos presented Trump Sr.,"yes I would take the information advanced to him and use it,"this raises all kind of questions as to the validity of the lesser Trump's story of his meeting with the Russian representative.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:44:29   #
rumitoid
 
debeda wrote:
I listened to the interview there was more to it than that. He also said he'd turn the information (and I'd assume the informant) over to the FBI


Not really. But trying to keep the point simple, just the offer to listen to any dirt on his political opponents by a foreign government is egregious.

And please remember that because of Russian interference and Trump Jr's meeting, the president was well aware of the legal ramifications of accepting such information. For him to say now he would accept such illegal dirt means he cares nothing about the law and thinks he can do what he pleases.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:50:35   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do you have a clue to ethics? The very offer is a breach of his office. Why would he offer to listen to dirt on a political opponent? Upon contact with a foreign national offering it is where you call the FBI and refuse to listen, not see if it is juicy enough for gain. Jeez louise, get some moral spine and not cowtow to that brute Trump all the time out of h**e for liberals.


I do have a clue as to ethics, and you seemingly have none where someone you h**e is concerned.
Your selective outrage over nothing says much about your own "ethics" considering all that is going on.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:53:17   #
dongreen76
 
debeda wrote:
I listened to the interview there was more to it than that. He also said he'd turn the information (and I'd assume the informant) over to the FBI


Yeah ,I saw that too;BUT !!,the camera had faded to black,as if the scene had been a wrap,then Action,without the presence of Stephanopoulos as if Trump had did another take ,as if Trump had realized he ran off at the mouth one time two many,and was attempting to recover from his mistake,the mistake of admitting he would collude.This is the extent of Trump's intellect,this is what's behind his success.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:57:40   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
I do have a clue as to ethics, and you seemingly have none where someone you h**e is concerned.
Your selective outrage over nothing says much about your own "ethics" considering all that is going on.


Too funny. Your selective lack of outrage "says much about your own "ethics" considering all that is going on." And you are the one with the h**e for all things Liberal. I do not h**e Trump. I h**e what he has done to diminish America and turn our nation into warring factions.

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Jun 14, 2019 20:58:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
dongreen76 wrote:
Yeah ,I saw that too;BUT !!,the camera had faded to black,as if the scene had been a wrap,then Action,without the presence of Stephanopoulos as if Trump had did another take ,as if Trump had realized he ran off at the mouth one time two many,and was attempting to recover from his mistake,the mistake of admitting he would collude.This is the extent of Trump's intellect,this is what's behind his success.


Trump was a dumbass for even letting that little worm into the Whitehouse.

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Jun 14, 2019 21:00:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
Do you hear what you are saying? The simple willingness of Trump to listen to a foreign government looking for favor by offering possible dirt on a political opponent is an atrocious breach of ethics and a disgrace to America.

The point was this: Trump accepting dirt on a political opponent from a foreign government. It was NOT ABOUT LOOKING "out for national interest."


According to you, but that does not make it true. Are you trying to tell me none of your l*****t would not even listen. You know that is BS.

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Jun 14, 2019 21:04:54   #
dongreen76
 
proud republican wrote:
LIAR!!..He never said he would use it...


Yes he did,ask any one whom watched the interview.

Why do you think Sarah Sanders jump ship,Trump mucked up humongously.
She extricated her a_ _.

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