bahmer wrote:
The video that I have presented above was by Walid Shoebat who was born into a Muslim family in Jerusalem and was raised Muslim. He came to the United States when he was young to how do you say it do jihad or perform jihad here in our country. He fell in love and married a catholic woman who grew tired of him complaining and bashing Christianity all of the time so she told him to get a bible and read it so that he would know what he was talking about. He started reading the bible and he was converted. The above video goes into more detail and there are other videos that he has produced as well under his name on youtube. If you are interested you can go there and listen for yourself and you may understand where my feelings and thoughts come from regarding Muslims. Have a good day Bruce.
The video that I have presented above was by Walid... (
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I will add him to the list...
And you are correct... I was quick to judge...
It never occurred to me to ask where your views concerning Islam came from...
My apologies...
Kyle
Rose42 wrote:
Here's one where he describes his journey from islam to Christianity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGK-8fjpHMI have seen the Walid Shoebat one before but its been a while. Good testimony. There are a lot of good testimonies out there.
Thank you Rose that was an excellent video thank you for sharing that.
And here’s another resource -
https://www.answering-islam.orgThey answer a lot of things such as islam’s claim to having the same God, the Triune nature of God, who Jesus is and much more. It has very detailed info with sources from history and the koran
Rose42 wrote:
And here’s another resource -
https://www.answering-islam.orgThey answer a lot of things such as islam’s claim to having the same God, the Triune nature of God, who Jesus is and much more. It has very detailed info with sources from history and the koran
I personally don't care for this site...
While they do an excellent job of backing their claims and providing sources (Which is vital), they take a biased approach in that they only present their interpretation of Islam and other sources... There is no opposing view for contrast...
I visited a Muslim site some time back that attempted much the same thing with Christianity... With the same results...
A site needs to be unbiased in presenting the argument... If only Christian views are put forth one comes away with a skewed vision of the argumt....
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I personally don't care for this site...
While they do an excellent job of backing their claims and providing sources (Which is vital), they take a biased approach in that they only present their interpretation of Islam and other sources... There is no opposing view for contrast...
I visited a Muslim site some time back that attempted much the same thing with Christianity... With the same results...
A site needs to be unbiased in presenting the argument... If only Christian views are put forth one comes away with a skewed vision of the argumt....
I personally don't care for this site... br br W... (
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Its well researched with information I haven’t seen muslim apologists offer. Plus its not aimed at validating a false religion. It details why it is and does it very well.
You are welcome to rebut it if you can.
Rose42 wrote:
Its well researched with information I haven’t seen muslim apologists offer. Plus its not aimed at validating a false religion. It details why it is and does it very well.
You are welcome to rebut it if you can.
Rebut the entire site?
No thanks... Pointless endeavor...
I have no isdue with the site's goals... It is true to them...
But if one is seeking an unbiased approach one would need to look elsewhere...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Rebut the entire site?
No thanks... Pointless endeavor...
I have no isdue with the site's goals... It is true to them...
But if one is seeking an unbiased approach one would need to look elsewhere...
You want a site that treats islam as something other than a false religion.
Rebut one thing.
Rose42 wrote:
You want a site that treats islam as something other than a false religion.
Rebut one thing.
I want a site that treats an argument fairly...
Send me the article from the site and I will give it a go... Mind you I may agree with the article...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I want a site that treats an argument fairly...
Send me the article from the site and I will give it a go... Mind you I may agree with the article...
You want a site to abide by your preconceived ideas. I will post one which I'm pretty sure you won't agree with. lol
Rose42 wrote:
You want a site to abide by your preconceived ideas.
Never... That is the antithesis of what I desire..
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I will post one which I'm pretty sure you won't agree with. lol
Sounds good...
If the reasoning is sound I will greatly enjoy the challenge
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sounds good...
If the reasoning is sound I will greatly enjoy the challenge
You just gave yourself an out. Lol
Rose42 wrote:
You just gave yourself an out. Lol
Huh?
What out?
A well-reasoned argument is a challenge to refute...
A poorly reasoned argument can be dismantled by pointing out logic fallacies or highlighting misinformation.... One can also discredit it by pointing out bias or showing a premise to be false...
But a well-reasoned argument must be met head on... One must show where the original argument is wrong... Or find an argument that is equally valid that refutes the original argument...
It is not a simple task...
But it can be most enjoyable...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I personally don't care for this site...
While they do an excellent job of backing their claims and providing sources (Which is vital), they take a biased approach in that they only present their interpretation of Islam and other sources... There is no opposing view for contrast...
I visited a Muslim site some time back that attempted much the same thing with Christianity... With the same results...
A site needs to be unbiased in presenting the argument... If only Christian views are put forth one comes away with a skewed vision of the argumt....
I personally don't care for this site... br br W... (
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After listening to the video of Nabeel Qureshi as apposed to Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib in our congress can you much blame America and Americans for having a negative view of Muslims. Now if the all were like Nabeel Qureshi and his family there probably wouldn't be much problem in America with welcoming them in but sense most of them tend to act like Omar and Tlaib plus the various horror stories that have been told and then add to that what is happening to Christians and Jews from the Muslims in the Middle East can you really blame our fear and distrust regarding the Muslims. You seem to be talking and associating with Muslims that have an attitude more in line with Nadeel Qureshi and his family as opposed to what we have here in our US congress.
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