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Jun 4, 2014 17:53:45   #
Airforceone
 
carolyn wrote:
Patty, they believe what they want to believe and nothing more. This administration has been caught up in so many lies, half t***hs and innuendos that it is a wonder that they could even tell anyone the time without the asker checking for themself. But just maybe he got himself in a mess he can't get out of by his temper tantrums and threats this time. Aiding and abetting the enemy is not the run of the mill crime. And that is the only thing they can make out of this last "thumbing his nose at our country" he has made. Especially since he did it before the Congress could stop him, and broke his own law in doing so.

If we allow him to get out of this, we deserve to lose our country and everything we have worked all our lives to obtain. We must get rid of this cancer once and for all.
Patty, they believe what they want to believe and ... (show quote)


What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a prisoner exchange. You scream about the constitution read article 2. He sure did have the right and well within the law. You talk about Obama not shutting down Gitmo well that 30 day law was required by Obama to inform congress 30 days before release. It was another way to prevent Obama from shutting Down Gitmo. At the same time congress would not give him the money to shut it down. That was the intent of the 30 day law. I just got thru listening to one of your tea party darlings giving a speech about bringing him home 3 months ago

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Jun 4, 2014 18:01:34   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
tdsrnest wrote:
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a prisoner exchange. You scream about the constitution read article 2. He sure did have the right and well within the law. You talk about Obama not shutting down Gitmo well that 30 day law was required by Obama to inform congress 30 days before release. It was another way to prevent Obama from shutting Down Gitmo. At the same time congress would not give him the money to shut it down. That was the intent of the 30 day law. I just got thru listening to one of your tea party darlings giving a speech about bringing him home 3 months ago
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a priso... (show quote)


Article 2 of the Constitution:

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the E*****rs in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for E*****rs of the numerous Branch of the State Legislature...

Where does that give him the authority you ascribe to him?

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Jun 4, 2014 18:46:00   #
Airforceone
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Why don't you look them up? Why have Patty do all the work for you?


I already did

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Jun 4, 2014 18:51:02   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
tdsrnest wrote:
I already did


Then where are they, and why did you request them to be sought out by Patty?

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Jun 4, 2014 21:16:23   #
Airforceone
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Article 2 of the Constitution:

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the E*****rs in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for E*****rs of the numerous Branch of the State Legislature...

Where does that give him the authority you ascribe to him?


Sorry executive powers under Article 2 but forgot the signing statement when he signed that bill on the 30 day notice. This signing statement had been used many times.



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Jun 4, 2014 21:38:34   #
carolyn
 
tdsrnest wrote:
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a prisoner exchange. You scream about the constitution read article 2. He sure did have the right and well within the law. You talk about Obama not shutting down Gitmo well that 30 day law was required by Obama to inform congress 30 days before release. It was another way to prevent Obama from shutting Down Gitmo. At the same time congress would not give him the money to shut it down. That was the intent of the 30 day law. I just got thru listening to one of your tea party darlings giving a speech about bringing him home 3 months ago
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a priso... (show quote)


Where in article II does it state that he has the right to do what he did? Tell us all where you find such fascinating BS.

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Jun 4, 2014 21:44:19   #
carolyn
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Article 2 of the Constitution:

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the E*****rs in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for E*****rs of the numerous Branch of the State Legislature...

Where does that give him the authority you ascribe to him?


It doesn't, Old_Gringo. He is thumb-sucking again as usual, hoping nobody will check to show he is a top-notch left-wing liberal C*******tic Bull S**tter. Obama had no right to go what he did and 97% of the latest poll shows that they agree. Turdinnest must be one of the 3% that tried to stick up for him.

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Jun 4, 2014 21:55:46   #
carolyn
 
tdsrnest wrote:
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a prisoner exchange. You scream about the constitution read article 2. He sure did have the right and well within the law. You talk about Obama not shutting down Gitmo well that 30 day law was required by Obama to inform congress 30 days before release. It was another way to prevent Obama from shutting Down Gitmo. At the same time congress would not give him the money to shut it down. That was the intent of the 30 day law. I just got thru listening to one of your tea party darlings giving a speech about bringing him home 3 months ago
What lies what aiding and abetting. It was a priso... (show quote)


I have checked Article II several times and cannot find anywhere that agrees with the BS that you have posted here. Your man once again took it upon himself to thwart law and order to do what HE felt was the right thing to do to aid and abet his fellow Muslim outlaws. And I do believe this time he has s**t in his nest, so to speak. Your man has too much outright h**e and loathing for anything pertaining to our Constitutional America, and it is far past time to take him off his high horse permanently.

Can you spell Leavenworth?

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Jun 4, 2014 22:15:46   #
Airforceone
 
carolyn wrote:
I have checked Article II several times and cannot find anywhere that agrees with the BS that you have posted here. Your man once again took it upon himself to thwart law and order to do what HE felt was the right thing to do to aid and abet his fellow Muslim outlaws. And I do believe this time he has s**t in his nest, so to speak. Your man has too much outright h**e and loathing for anything pertaining to our Constitutional America, and it is far past time to take him off his high horse permanently.

Can you spell Leavenworth?
I have checked Article II several times and cannot... (show quote)


It's a signing statement Article 2 executive powers. The problem is you do not have a clue as to how government works. You cannot read or interpret. Why do you think I keep telling you to go away. You add nothing

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Jun 4, 2014 22:33:24   #
carolyn
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Sorry executive powers under Article 2 but forgot the signing statement when he signed that bill on the 30 day notice. This signing statement had been used many times.


A signing statement during peacetime is one thing, but a signing statement during wartime to release even one dangerous POW without Congress' consent is something entirely different. And when he illegally traded FIVE high commanders in the Taliban for one coward who was a Muslim sympathizer to begin with is the last straw we should have to put up with from this un-American POS.

Another GITMO inmate that Obama released as being a non-threat to the U.S. was re-caught in Pakistan a short time later.

Police in Pakistan caught Mehdi-Muhammed, along with three other Swedish nationals and seven Turkish ones. This should be alarming to Americans since one released Gitmo detainee could recruit ten followers in such a short time. The sad part of this whole episode is the fact that this is not the only terrorist that Obama has released that has ended up in Al Qaida or the Taliban again. One former GITMO detainee went on to become Al Qaida's second in command in Yemen, while another became the Taliban Commander in Afghanistan, where he is no doubt responsible for the k*****g of American troops.

Now I believe we should also investigate him on these charges as well as the trading of 5 veteran Taliban commanders that he traded for one chicken-s**t Muslim sympathizer who went AWOL in a combat zone, costing 8 of his fellow soldiers lives in the process. It seems our great president thinks more of his Al Qaida and Taliban buddies that he does the people who so stupidly v**ed him into office twice.

PS. And Bergdahl should be placed before a firing squad because a life sentence in Leavenworth is too good for this POS.

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Jun 4, 2014 23:53:54   #
carolyn
 
tdsrnest wrote:
It's a signing statement Article 2 executive powers. The problem is you do not have a clue as to how government works. You cannot read or interpret. Why do you think I keep telling you to go away. You add nothing


But your damned "signing statement" does not include protection from aiding and abetting the enemy as your Muslim Chief did, my left-wing i***t. And this is exactly why you prove yourself to be such an ass when you try and portray any semblance of intelligence.

We are still at war whether you are smart enough to realize it or not. And for your great Muslim mentor to collaborate with the enemy and trade five high ranking Taliban commanders for one chicken s**t soldier who deserted his post in a time of war is ridiculous and stupid on your part to try and exonerate him of any wrongdoing. Obummer has to be impeached on this regardless the Democrat Senate v**es him guilty or not. But let me say one more thing before you come unglued with more of your super bulls**t.

If the Democrat Senate does not v**e him guilty, I can see a whole lot of people changing their politics because people are finally fed up with this DODO's crap. And they will change their politics before they see any more lies upheld by the mafia that he has installed in the White House.

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Jun 5, 2014 10:34:50   #
Airforceone
 
carolyn wrote:
A signing statement during peacetime is one thing, but a signing statement during wartime to release even one dangerous POW without Congress' consent is something entirely different. And when he illegally traded FIVE high commanders in the Taliban for one coward who was a Muslim sympathizer to begin with is the last straw we should have to put up with from this un-American POS.

Another GITMO inmate that Obama released as being a non-threat to the U.S. was re-caught in Pakistan a short time later.

Police in Pakistan caught Mehdi-Muhammed, along with three other Swedish nationals and seven Turkish ones. This should be alarming to Americans since one released Gitmo detainee could recruit ten followers in such a short time. The sad part of this whole episode is the fact that this is not the only terrorist that Obama has released that has ended up in Al Qaida or the Taliban again. One former GITMO detainee went on to become Al Qaida's second in command in Yemen, while another became the Taliban Commander in Afghanistan, where he is no doubt responsible for the k*****g of American troops.

Now I believe we should also investigate him on these charges as well as the trading of 5 veteran Taliban commanders that he traded for one chicken-s**t Muslim sympathizer who went AWOL in a combat zone, costing 8 of his fellow soldiers lives in the process. It seems our great president thinks more of his Al Qaida and Taliban buddies that he does the people who so stupidly v**ed him into office twice.

PS. And Bergdahl should be placed before a firing squad because a life sentence in Leavenworth is too good for this POS.
A signing statement during peacetime is one thing,... (show quote)


Then where was your foolish outrage when Bush released 500 of these guys. And they estimated that 75 of them got back into the battle. So please you have to be a r****t. This stuff has been going on since Bush stood in front of the sign MISSION ACCOMPLISH 12 years ago. I can show you many signing statements by Bush in war time. Oh no Bush signed with no war his mission was accomplished. Why is there so much outrage now. Okay for the white guy to catch and release, but not the black guy. Signing statement applies to all bills. Don 't you understand that this stuff has been going on for years and not one TP/ republican had any outrage just understand that. Why a firing squad for being AWOL if that was the case the military would have to shot about 25,000 men a year. Not considered a Deserter till after 30 days. Why don't you TP always looking to find a conspiracy why don't TP shut up and wait till the facts are in. Ohhhhh no can't deal with facts don't know how. Just attack. I say it again and again and again this stuff was going on for 8 years under Bush but no outrage. No impeachment talk. That why i bring up Bush because nobody had a problem when Bush did it. And Bush committed the 2 ultimate crimes. Created a war with false intel and torture.

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Jun 5, 2014 10:37:16   #
Patty
 
I thought you guys were the party of progress, hope and change not SOS?
tdsrnest wrote:
Then where was your foolish outrage when Bush released 500 of these guys. And they estimated that 75 of them got back into the battle. So please you have to be a r****t. This stuff has been going on since Bush stood in front of the sign MISSION ACCOMPLISH 12 years ago. I can show you many signing statements by Bush in war time. Oh no Bush signed with no war his mission was accomplished. Why is there so much outrage now. Okay for the white guy to catch and release, but not the black guy. Signing statement applies to all bills. Don 't you understand that this stuff has been going on for years and not one TP/ republican had any outrage just understand that. Why a firing squad for being AWOL if that was the case the military would have to shot about 25,000 men a year. Not considered a Deserter till after 30 days. Why don't you TP always looking to find a conspiracy why don't TP shut up and wait till the facts are in. Ohhhhh no can't deal with facts don't know how. Just attack. I say it again and again and again this stuff was going on for 8 years under Bush but no outrage. No impeachment talk. That why i bring up Bush because nobody had a problem when Bush did it. And Bush committed the 2 ultimate crimes. Created a war with false intel and torture.
Then where was your foolish outrage when Bush rele... (show quote)

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Jun 5, 2014 11:43:50   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Patty wrote:
I thought you guys were the party of progress, hope and change not SOS?


One can tell he has been thoroughly indoctrinated by the proggies. I do wonder however, if he retains all that nonsense in his memory bank, or does he have to write it down for easy reference.

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Jun 5, 2014 12:00:13   #
Patty
 
Let me clear this up for you td.
This is the entire powers of the executive branch.
No where does it say he can make up wh**ever laws he wants but to enforce the laws that congress passes or veto them.
"Art. I, Sec. 7, cls. 2 & 3, grants to the President the power to approve or veto Bills and Resolutions passed by Congress.

Art. I, Sec. 9, next to last clause, grants to the executive Branch – the Treasury Department – the power to write checks pursuant to Appropriations made by law – i.e., by Congress.

Art. II, Sec. 1, cl.1, vests “executive Power” [see below] in the President.

Art. II, Sec. 1, last clause, sets forth the President’s Oath of Office – to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”.

Art. II, Sec. 2, cl.1:
•makes the President Commander in Chief of the armed forces when they have been called by Congress into the actual service of the United States. 3
•authorizes the President to require the principal Officers in the executive Departments to provide written Opinions upon the Duties of their Offices.
• grants the President power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for offenses against the United States, 4 but he can not stop impeachments of any federal judge or federal officer.

Article II, Sec. 2, cl. 2 grants to the President the power:
•to make Treaties – with the advice and consent of the Senate. 5
•to nominate Ambassadors, other public ministers and Consuls, federal judges, and various other officers – with the advice and consent of the Senate.

Article II, Sec. 2, cl. 3 grants to the President the power to make recess appointments, which expire at the end of Congress’ next session.

Art. II, Sec. 3:
•Imposes the duty on the President to periodically advise Congress on the State of the Union, and authorizes the President to recommend to Congress such measures as he deems wise.
•Authorizes the President, on extraordinary Occasions, to convene one or both houses of Congress [e.g., when he asks Congress to declare War]; and if both houses can not agree on when to adjourn, he is authorized to adjourn them to such time as he deems proper.
•Imposes the duty upon the President to receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers.
•Imposes the duty upon the President to take care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and
•Imposes the duty upon the President to Commission all the Officers of the United States.

That’s it! Anything else the President does is unlawful and a usurpation of powers not granted.

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