rumitoid

America is steeped in ideals, principles, values, and laws based on "we the people" and basic unalienable rights for all citizens. This is inculcated in us from every facet of life in the United States. It is insinuated to us in all our movements. Most of this is sub-conscious.

Evolution Theories have shown in such things as the hundredth monkey hypothesis that new behaviors or ideas are claimed to spread rapidly by unexplained means from one group to all related groups--even those thousands of miles away without direct contact--once a critical number of members of one group exhibit the new behavior or acknowledge the new idea. Is freedom the same? Is human consciousness evolving thanks to our nation? Or is that idea just a carrot on a stick for the next dictator?

Rose42

No

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Morgan

Over the years, yes, I think it has but I believe that has now changed, we used to be an example of good things like freedom, growth, prosperity, helping our fellow man, caring for the environment. Other countries wanted to be like us, but we've recently fallen from that grace.

We are not leading any longer, not for caring for its people or the earth. We've gone to the corporate philosophy, k**l or be k**led and profit first. That's what shouting to the top...We're number one, and America first, says to the rest of the world.

Our human consciousness is trying to rise above with many people, but it's getting drowned out with all of the anger and discontentment that is present today.

We need to focus on what brings us together, helping one another, America has always had great compassion, not party line discrepancies, these things that bring us together is where we need to put our attention.

rumitoid

Finer sentiments have never been spoken. Thank you.

Rose42

Yet tell only part of the story. Lets not forget the damage “progressives” have done. They try to control speech under the guise of political correctness, they promote taking the lives of approximately 800,000 unborn children every year (and profiting from the body parts), they want to dismantle the second amendment under the pretense of caring for life, they promote sexual perversions and porn, they promote child abuse via t*********rizing of children and indoctrinating them about homosexuals and they are all for censorship as long as its not someone on the left.

There is more - like insisting on apologizing for a religion proven to be cancerous everywhere else and giving them special privileges.

We need to get rid of progressives and the alt right. Neither are doing this country any good. Quite the opposite

Morgan

Thank you, a valid point and topic.

Morgan

Quite the bias and skewed sentiments. The right is getting uglier and uglier, more vicious and h**eful with each passing day, wanting everyone to live "their way".

Dismantle the second amendment... another great exaggeration from the right.

Where have they ever tried to control speech? Give me five examples if it is so rampant, it should be easy. Please don't give me the old Ann Coulter speech as that had nothing to do with progressives or free speech, she could have gone off campus and made her h**eful speech. I say h**eful because that is what she is always about.

You blaming a******ns on progressives is severely naive, it's all races, religions, and ages. How about rather than categorizing them by political party,(which I'm not sure how that is even done) how about we do it by religion, what percentage do you think is Christian?

They don't "Promote" sexual perversions, homosexuality is not a perversion and no one promotes, they feel they have no right to judge!

You talk about saving babies while you allow children to go and be gunned down, without doing anything to remedy the gun violence in America, all for the love of guns and under the false pretense of your second amendment right.
You want to talk about porn, go ask your Republican Pussy grabbing president. Remember, the stable genius.
No one is indoctrinating anyone on the left, but is surely being done on the right after listening to your rant.
Saying to get rid of an entire party, who's never done one h**eful thing, proves to me where you really stand, how disappointing.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Liberal progressivism is the bastard child of C*******m, it is an abstract construct built on an artificial framework created by European philosophers--Marx, Hegel, Engels, and Rousseau. The entire concept eliminates the God given right to self-government and devalues human life through the power of a central government. Progressivism is diametrically opposed to our founding principles.

Liberal progressivism has hijacked the democrat party and t***sformed it into the most ant-American ideology in American politics. There are no compromises or half way measures in dealing with this scourge, it must be defeated.

Rose42

But yours weren’t biased and skewed? Lol I did say we don’t need the alt right



Not at all. Feinstein and others have been recorded as saying they’d like to ban guns. A former DNC vice chair wrote a memo about it.



I don’t like Ann Coulter and don’t listen to her. I have no idea what you’re talking about.

I’ll give you two. You can look up others if you care about the t***h.

On college campuses there are now free speech zones - so people don’t have their care bubbles burst.

In 2014 democrats tried to add an amendment so state legislatures and Congress could determine what was political speech (by overturning Citizens United)

There’s always turning a blind eye to Facebook and Goigle/Youtube censorship. Yes they are private entities but there was a time democrats would have spoken out against it



Not naive. Liberals would not have supported a******n. Progressives have loosened restrictions. The question was are we better people now. Obviously not when the most innocent among us are so casually dismissed for convenience



They sure do. I grew up in the SF area and there were plenty of pornographic ‘p***e’ parades. Back then homosexuality was a mental disorder. Still is despite the ‘research’ that claims it isn’t. They need help not affirmation. And children should not be taught about it in school or have books read to them about it



*I* allow children to be gunned down? No gun I’ve ever had walked out and shot anyone.

Yours is a specious argument. How many children’s lives are lost each year? You have no idea and are just regurgitating talking points. More children are k**led by one of their parents. Lets outlaw parents for the sake of the children!

Btw, there is no false pretense of my rights. And who are you to take away anyone’s right to defend themselves or their family? Is it a coincidence the left leaning MSM doesn’t report lives saved? No. And not all lives saved require shooting. But ‘progressives’ don’t care about the t***h. They want control



Speaking that way only weakens your argument and insulting him doesn’t bother me.



That was weak. And I never said the right didn’t indoctrinate too.



Not a party - progressives. Liberals we need but progressives are a cancer thats k*****g us from within.

And to claim the democrat party has never done one h**eful thing is blatantly dishonest.

rumitoid

Rose, this rant is too sick to respond to, lol, but I will. It is utterly obscene. I promote child abuse? I promote a******n? I promote ending the 2nd Amendment? I promote suppression of the 1st Amendment? All progressives are evil that "we need to get rid of"? Oh, you add the alt right yet list none of their possible wrongs; do they have any? You never say.

To find what I believed was an intelligent and thoughtful person steeped in Christianity to spew this noxious crap like you have really puts a serious and deep ding in my hope for this nation. Adios, America.

rumitoid

So tired of your jaundiced pronouncements, so sick with h**e and judgment. You are wrong. You speak of Progressives like Hitler spoke of the Jews. Vile. To say "There are no compromises or half way measures in dealing with this scourge, it must be defeated" is another Final Solution! You preach only the Right should exist and rule; they are good and the Left evil. What any dictatorship wants: an enemy reduced to being other.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

She never called you by name...So stop being such Drama Queen...

Morgan

First off, typically the quote is wrong, why does that happen whenever talking to someone on the right? See that, I can generalize too. LOL I never said the democratic, we were talking about the progressive comments made by you. rather h**eful ones also, so much for that Christian charity.

Liberals were never considered Democrats until during the Bush campaign when they slid the liberals over to the Democrats in the hopes it would deter people from moving out of the Republican camp over to the left, the Democrat camp, which I originally did, and it worked! As many moved to independent, as I eventually did also prior to the last p**********l e******n.

Now that people have adopted to Liberalism and things didn't go quite as they planned, they are digging in deeper calling everyone from the left socialists and C*******ts, so the question is Rose, how low will your party go, they know no bounds, just like the cowardly pufferfish you follow. Now that's not h**ed, that's just calling it as I see it ust as you did.

Now You can show me where, as a party, Progressives have done something h**eful.

The Progressive Party was a third party in the United States formed in 1912 by former President Theodore Roosevelt after he lost the p**********l nomination of the Republican Party to his former protégé, incumbent President William Howard Taft.
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I will have to go back to address other issues not posted when I go to reply.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, your tired. You should take a long break. Maybe a sabbatical.

Progressivism and c*******m have the same fundamental doctrines based on the political philosophies of European atheists. That is not speculation or "jaundiced pronouncements", the fact remains that Progressivism has hijacked the democrat party and it is diametrically opposed to the founding principles of our American Republic. If you can't handle that, tough shyte.