Healthcare is not a human right! (Page 2): Like a thread I put up before, libs never ask what’s next? Just because you say healthcare’s a human right doesn’t improve healthcare.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Blade_Runner wrote:

You gotta be kidding? How many Americans are heading for Canada or Europe for special treatment or elective surgery? Waiting times and costs are rising rapidly in countries with socialized healthcare.

Like a thread I put up before, libs never ask what’s next? Just because you say healthcare’s a human right doesn’t improve healthcare. Lefties think by calling it a human right they can get govt. to take care of you from birth to grave. Of course that would cost you much of your freedoms. The little liberal mind will never get it.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

JFlorio wrote:

Universal healthcare in a country this size will ruin us. How in the world would you pay for Medicare for all? Which is what universal care would be. The Affordable Care Act is the closest thing to universal care we’ve ever had. Before it came along my out of pocket was $3000 and premium $350 a month. I believe there are ways for states to bring costs down dramatically through capitalism and large group pools. It’s complicated but what we have now doesn’t work.

I would be willing to give that a chance. What we need is a congress that does the job they were elected to do and that is represent the people not the lobbiests who can buy them.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

PeterS wrote:

You really do make it easy Blade you really do. https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/08/17/14-Million-Americans-Will-Go-Abroad-Medical-Care-Year-Should-You.

Do you ever think of getting your information in other places than Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and 100% vetted Conservative sources?

Your article says people are leaving because insurance in America won’t cover their operation or wh**ever. I thought the ACA covered everyone. Obama must have lied.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Blade_Runner wrote:

You gotta be kidding? How many Americans are heading for Canada or Europe for special treatment or elective surgery? Waiting times and costs are rising rapidly in countries with socialized healthcare.

Half of my relatives live in Canada and love their health care. They can't understand why the United States does not provide health care.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I would be willing to give that a chance. What we need is a congress that does the job they were elected to do and that is represent the people not the lobbiests who can buy them.

Now you’re talking. That is one of my big problems Tom with universal care. We are asking the same clowns who can’t run a toy train to run everyone’s healthcare.

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

I’ve always thought saying healthcare was a human right is a crock. Healthcare encompasses so many different aspects of ones life how can anyone else have a right to someone else’s labor or money? This is the best reason I’ve found why healthcare isn’t a human right.

http://libertarianstandard.com/articles/gabriel-e-vidal/healthcare-is-not-a-human-right/

General Welfare. The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government. The preamble to the U.S. Constitution cites promotion of the general welfare as a primary reason for the creation of the Constitution

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Half of my relatives live in Canada and love their health care. They can't understand why the United States does not provide health care.

Talk to Obama about that, he's the one that fkd it up.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

emarine wrote:

General Welfare. The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government. The preamble to the U.S. Constitution cites promotion of the general welfare as a primary reason for the creation of the Constitution

The Preamble says PROMOTE the general welfare, not PROVIDE it. The Preamble also says to PROVIDE for the common defense, not destroy it.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Half of my relatives live in Canada and love their health care. They can't understand why the United States does not provide health care.

We do provide healthcare. I can show you reports that their healthcare is running into debt problems. My Canadian friends here in Fl. say primary and secondary care is wonderful but as you get older many surgeries are delayed so long they come to the states. You are also trying to compare healthcare for 38 million to the US population of 350 million +. Apples and oranges.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

emarine wrote:

General Welfare. The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government. The preamble to the U.S. Constitution cites promotion of the general welfare as a primary reason for the creation of the Constitution

Exactly. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have the right to someone else’s labor. Good luck with that govt morals thing.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

JFlorio wrote:

Now you’re talking. That is one of my big problems Tom with universal care. We are asking the same clowns who can’t run a toy train to run everyone’s healthcare.

We gotta get rid of some clowns for darn sure. and get some professionalism back in our congress.. Men and women with Honor can accomplish a lot of good.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Half of my relatives live in Canada and love their health care. They can't understand why the United States does not provide health care.

Where are they located?

My family in BC and Alberta despise the system...

My family in Ontario like it...

Funny how the places with the v**es get the best health care... Other places suffer from a lack of doctors, clinics and equipment...

Just saying...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

JFlorio wrote:

We do provide healthcare. I can show you reports that their healthcare is running into debt problems. My Canadian friends here in Fl. say primary and secondary care is wonderful but as you get older many surgeries are delayed so long they come to the states. You are also trying to compare healthcare for 38 million to the US population of 350 million +. Apples and oranges.

Yep

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Where are they located?

My family in BC and Alberta despise the system...

My family in Ontario like it...

Funny how the places with the v**es get the best health care... Other places suffer from a lack of doctors, clinics and equipment...

Just saying...

My family in Calgary and Winnipeg love it and are very grateful for it. Looks like Canada is much like the States. Richer districts have better schools hospitals roads etc. Something has to give.

Auntie Lulu

Gatsby wrote:

"Free Stuff" is NOT a human right!

I agree. There certainly is nothing to stop those who wise to donate to the care of others from doing so. Each of us has a plan for our own life, and perhaps the monies that the government extracts from us, we would feel could better utalized in the act of attempting to help our own families.