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May 28, 2019 20:44:48   #
Rose42
 
I’ve been looking around for one that has some sound doctrine outside not believing the trinity.
I’ve not been able to find one. No surprise. They all seem to deny Christ’s sacrifice and deity.


We join together:
as one fellowship, living in truth, peace and love for all humankind and all creation.

We join together:
to worship and honor The Lord Our God, the One Creator and Sustainer of all existence.

We join together:
to learn the teachings of the Biblical Jesus, and how to live by the example he set.

We join together:
as one family of God, each an individual member of that family,
with their own personal relationship with our God;
but all united as one within our love for God and all humankind.

We join together:
to build our Church on a firm foundation anchored within the Platform that is created to be our common ground where all are welcome and love might be lived not just proclaimed.

We join together:
as the UNITARIAN CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF AMERICA
that we might unite and live our faith in love and peace, as an example, for the world to see.

We join together:
and welcome all to put our differences aside and join with us; for the love of God,
the love of all humankind and the love of all creation;
living the example of Jesus.

The Unitarian Universalists also deny Christ’s deity.

Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote seven Principles, which we hold as strong values and moral guides. We live out these Principles within a “living tradition” of wisdom and spirituality, drawn from sources as diverse as science, poetry, scripture, and personal experience. These are the six sources our congregations affirm and promote:

Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life;

Words and deeds of prophetic people which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love;

Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life;

Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves;

Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit;

Spiritual teachings of Earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature.

Rev. Kathleen Rolenz said, “Throughout history, we have moved to the rhythms of mystery and wonder, prophecy, wisdom, teachings from ancient and modern sources, and nature herself.

Uua.org

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May 28, 2019 22:08:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I’ve been looking around for one that has some sound doctrine outside not believing the trinity.
I’ve not been able to find one. No surprise. They all seem to deny Christ’s sacrifice and deity.


We join together:
as one fellowship, living in truth, peace and love for all humankind and all creation.

We join together:
to worship and honor The Lord Our God, the One Creator and Sustainer of all existence.

We join together:
to learn the teachings of the Biblical Jesus, and how to live by the example he set.

We join together:
as one family of God, each an individual member of that family,
with their own personal relationship with our God;
but all united as one within our love for God and all humankind.

We join together:
to build our Church on a firm foundation anchored within the Platform that is created to be our common ground where all are welcome and love might be lived not just proclaimed.

We join together:
as the UNITARIAN CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF AMERICA
that we might unite and live our faith in love and peace, as an example, for the world to see.

We join together:
and welcome all to put our differences aside and join with us; for the love of God,
the love of all humankind and the love of all creation;
living the example of Jesus.

The Unitarian Universalists also deny Christ’s deity.

Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote seven Principles, which we hold as strong values and moral guides. We live out these Principles within a “living tradition” of wisdom and spirituality, drawn from sources as diverse as science, poetry, scripture, and personal experience. These are the six sources our congregations affirm and promote:

Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life;

Words and deeds of prophetic people which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love;

Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life;

Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves;

Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit;

Spiritual teachings of Earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature.

Rev. Kathleen Rolenz said, “Throughout history, we have moved to the rhythms of mystery and wonder, prophecy, wisdom, teachings from ancient and modern sources, and nature herself.

Uua.org
I’ve been looking around for one that has some sou... (show quote)


Where does it say they deny Christ's sacrifice?

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May 28, 2019 22:35:43   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Where does it say they deny Christ's sacrifice?


They don’t mention it. Its the foundation of being a Christian. They also make a lot of rather bizarre unbiblical statements

Look at faith statements of Christian churches. Big difference.

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May 28, 2019 23:10:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
They don’t mention it. Its the foundation of being a Christian. They also make a lot of rather bizarre unbiblical statements

Look at faith statements of Christian churches. Big difference.


It was in their second statement...
"We join together: to learn the teachings of the Biblical Jesus, and how to live by the example he set."

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May 28, 2019 23:11:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Look at faith statements of Christian churches. Big difference.


Like the Roman Catholic Church?
Largest in the world...

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May 29, 2019 04:47:48   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
It was in their second statement...
"We join together: to learn the teachings of the Biblical Jesus, and how to live by the example he set."


That isn’t it. Not even close

I’ll ask again. Do you know what it means to be saved? To pick up your cross every day? To repent and cast all your cares on Christ? Do you know the significance of his sacrifice for us?

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May 29, 2019 04:49:53   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Like the Roman Catholic Church?
Largest in the world...


Nope. Catholicism isn’t Christianity.

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May 29, 2019 06:14:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
That isn’t it. Not even close

I’ll ask again. Do you know what it means to be saved? To pick up your cross every day? To repent and cast all your cares on Christ? Do you know the significance of his sacrifice for us?


I am guessing we have different definitions here...

I doubt my answer would satisfy yours

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May 29, 2019 06:22:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Nope. Catholicism isn’t Christianity.


Now that is a silly claim...

They might differ in their practices...
But our Catholic brothers are most certainly Christians...

Sometimes I think you just like to tease...

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May 29, 2019 08:54:49   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I am guessing we have different definitions here...

I doubt my answer would satisfy yours


I use biblical definitions.

Then your answer is no.

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May 29, 2019 09:54:39   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I use biblical definitions.

Then your answer is no.


You use your understanding of biblical definitions...

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May 29, 2019 10:03:44   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You use your understanding of biblical definitions...


No. Your problem is you try and make the bible conform to what you want it to say. The wrong approach to reading the bible is "what does this mean to me". We are to read it to know what God is revealing to us. There's a big difference which you can't seem to grasp. Or refuse to grasp.

No Christian would shy away from those questions - they are thankful for being saved. Yet here you are avoiding them yet again.

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May 29, 2019 10:13:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
No. Your problem is you try and make the bible conform to what you want it to say. The wrong approach to reading the bible is "what does this mean to me". We are to read it to know what God is revealing to us.


I find no contention with this statement..

Quote:
There's a big difference which you can't seem to grasp. Or refuse to grasp.


We do seem to be butting heads over it...

Quote:
No Christian would shy away from those questions - they are thankful for being saved. Yet here you are avoiding them yet again.


Not avoiding...
Waiting...
I revealed my understanding of Scripture to you before and have yet to receive a reply...

I am truly grateful to the Lord...
More than I could ever express or you could ever understand...
My gratitude to Him is beyond words...
And my life is His and His alone...


Off to bed...
My apologies... I still owe you a response on Rumi's thread... Tomorrow... It has been a long day...

Stay strong and play nice..

Your friend, Kyle

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May 29, 2019 10:34:05   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Not avoiding...
Waiting...
I revealed my understanding of Scripture to you before and have yet to receive a reply...


Yes avoiding. I forgot about the PM.

Quote:
I am truly grateful to the Lord...
More than I could ever express or you could ever understand...
My gratitude to Him is beyond words...
And my life is His and His alone...

Off to bed...
My apologies... I still owe you a response on Rumi's thread... Tomorrow... It has been a long day...

Stay strong and play nice..

Your friend, Kyle


Yet you can't answer very basic questions about salvation. If Christ isn't your Lord and Savior then you are not saved but self deceived.

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May 29, 2019 13:43:21   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yet you can't answer very basic questions about salvation. If Christ isn't your Lord and Savior then you are not saved but self deceived.


Amen and Amen

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