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May 17, 2019 14:25:12   #
bahmer
 
4430 wrote:
You have that right on !

I started out with tractors with out power steering or Hyd's use a either levers and or trip ropes to raise and and lower implements !

Then came cabs with air and heat now GPS !

Most GPS guidance one has to actually turn at the end of the field and make the turn around then back to GPS.
One of my cousins demo a system from John Deere that did as you said once it was programed to a field he sat back and it did it all on it's own but he elected not to buy it as it was priced at $35,000

GPS I use I set the A / B lines and name them to use the next time I run in each field but I still have to make the turns etc etc

It takes us older fellows a little longer to figure it all out but then it's balls to wall getting the crop in the ground !
You have that right on ! br br I started out with... (show quote)


I guess that they come out and take soil samples for you and then the GPS puts in the right amount of fertilizer throughout the whole field so that you have a uniform crop at the end of the year. It is really getting awesome for the farmers that is for sure.

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May 17, 2019 15:35:51   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
There fertilizer spreader trucks that have several compartments for different fertilizers.

Say one for Potash another for phosphorous another for nitrogen while driving thru a field that has been mapped with as you say from soil samples it can apply little or a lot of one material or another depending on what requirements that particulate spot needed .

Getting almost too high tech but it's a good way to not under or over apply fertilizer and or chemicals

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May 17, 2019 15:39:34   #
bahmer
 
4430 wrote:
There fertilizer spreader trucks that have several compartments for different fertilizers.

Say one for Potash another for phosphorous another for nitrogen while driving thru a field that has been mapped with as you say from soil samples it can apply little or a lot of one material or another depending on what requirements that particulate spot needed .

Getting almost too high tech but it's a good way to not under or over apply fertilizer and or chemicals


Amen and Amen

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May 17, 2019 18:27:23   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
4430 wrote:
Mine is a 1977 model and 1977 was the last year they built the 4430's then the 4440 and then 4450's .

Did you drive the 4430 in the late 80's early 90's ?

Actually you are right about the air heat and radio the best tractor I ever had and it was the last brand new tractor I've ever bought !


I was thinking about this today on my route, and I think we also had the 4440. It had a gadget in it that told you how many acres an hour you were covering, and stuff like that. We also had one that had a 30 something number. I h**ed it because it had an open cab. It was mainly used for spraying, and pulling the digger during sugar beet harvest.

The 4430 was the workhorse most of the time. I remember it so well because I spent hours in it, and washed it more times than I can count.

Mind you, I worked on a research farm, so we didn't really farm in my mind, we piddled with stuff. And the farm manager was anal about the equipment.
If that guy is still there, those tractors are still in close to factory condition!

It made me kinda sad to crawl up in that poor old thing at my brothers place. It was long neglected, and sounded terrible when it started.

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May 17, 2019 18:32:12   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
I guess that they come out and take soil samples for you and then the GPS puts in the right amount of fertilizer throughout the whole field so that you have a uniform crop at the end of the year. It is really getting awesome for the farmers that is for sure.


This is why I call him a tractor pilot! Crawl up in the cab of a new one, and see if you can land the sucker!

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May 17, 2019 22:00:43   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
archie bunker wrote:
I was thinking about this today on my route, and I think we also had the 4440. It had a gadget in it that told you how many acres an hour you were covering, and stuff like that. We also had one that had a 30 something number. I h**ed it because it had an open cab. It was mainly used for spraying, and pulling the digger during sugar beet harvest.

The 4430 was the workhorse most of the time. I remember it so well because I spent hours in it, and washed it more times than I can count.

Mind you, I worked on a research farm, so we didn't really farm in my mind, we piddled with stuff. And the farm manager was anal about the equipment.
If that guy is still there, those tractors are still in close to factory condition!

It made me kinda sad to crawl up in that poor old thing at my brothers place. It was long neglected, and sounded terrible when it started.
I was thinking about this today on my route, and I... (show quote)


I have cousins that treat their machinery like the farm manger you worked with .

The gadget you speak of was an add on information retriever .

We could sure have a good chat about farm equipment if by perchance meet up

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May 17, 2019 22:03:32   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
archie bunker wrote:
This is why I call him a tractor pilot! Crawl up in the cab of a new one, and see if you can land the sucker!


Arch I'll post some machinery pics in a stand alone thread sometime as I bet there are few here on OPP that has very much if any knowledge of what equipment is needed to put food on their table !

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May 17, 2019 23:44:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
4430 wrote:
I have cousins that treat their machinery like the farm manger you worked with .

The gadget you speak of was an add on information retriever .

We could sure have a good chat about farm equipment if by perchance meet up
I have cousins that treat their machinery like the... (show quote)


I know just enough about farm machinery, and impliments to make me stupid. It was a fun job, and I learned a lot, but I signed on to work with cattle, and they turned me into a farmer!
Lol! I can still get er done if I have to though!

As I'm out driving, I'm watching these guys out planting with some pretty elaborate looking rigs. I'm sure that some are corn, and some cotton, but I kinda miss that, and have a lot to learn there.
I wanna know how that all works. I mean the mechanics of it all.

And I also love, love, love watching the spray planes work! It's amazing how they manage to navigate the fields full of wind turbines.

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May 17, 2019 23:48:19   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
4430 wrote:
Arch I'll post some machinery pics in a stand alone thread sometime as I bet there are few here on OPP that has very much if any knowledge of what equipment is needed to put food on their table !


Do that! I'll be curious to test my own knowledge!
Great idea!

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May 18, 2019 02:27:16   #
Evil_Fluffy
 
working class stiff wrote:
"I tend to agree with Merriam-Webster that woman means “an adult female person.” I agree not only with the dictionary but with the whole history of human civilization, which, collectively, has always understood woman in this way."

The whole history of human civilization has been wrong about plenty of things: the earth is flat; reality is made up of fire, water and earth: the world was created in 6 days; it's ok to own s***es; etc.

Male/female is sex. Woman/ man is g****r identity. Woman and female are not equivalents. Female is biology, woman is psychology and or sociology.

What is a woman? Wh**ever she wants to be and wh**ever role she chooses in her life. Pretty simple really.
"I tend to agree with Merriam-Webster that wo... (show quote)


Both a female and a woman have an XX c********e. No amount of surgery or drugs can change that. Men cannot become women; women cannot become men. It is scientifically impossible.

Enabling people with mental defects to believe they can actually become the opposite sex is d********g and ridiculous.

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May 18, 2019 10:17:20   #
Iliamna1
 
Evil_Fluffy wrote:
Both a female and a woman have an XX c********e. No amount of surgery or drugs can change that. Men cannot become women; women cannot become men. It is scientifically impossible.

Enabling people with mental defects to believe they can actually become the opposite sex is d********g and ridiculous.


Hormone replacement therapy, surgery, cross dressing, adapting other-sex affectations, and lying to oneself (and every one else) can under no circumstances change that genetic reality . . . If you have 'XY' c********es, you're a male, and if you have 'XX' c********es, you're a female. Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig and calling it a soccer mom.

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May 18, 2019 10:19:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Evil_Fluffy wrote:
Both a female and a woman have an XX c********e. No amount of surgery or drugs can change that. Men cannot become women; women cannot become men. It is scientifically impossible.

Enabling people with mental defects to believe they can actually become the opposite sex is d********g and ridiculous.


Spot On

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May 18, 2019 10:20:18   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Hormone replacement therapy, surgery, cross dressing, adapting other-sex affectations, and lying to oneself (and every one else) can under no circumstances change that genetic reality . . . If you have 'XY' c********es, you're a male, and if you have 'XX' c********es, you're a female. Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig and calling it a soccer mom.



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May 18, 2019 10:28:22   #
bahmer
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Hormone replacement therapy, surgery, cross dressing, adapting other-sex affectations, and lying to oneself (and every one else) can under no circumstances change that genetic reality . . . If you have 'XY' c********es, you're a male, and if you have 'XX' c********es, you're a female. Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig and calling it a soccer mom.


Amen and Amen

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