oldbeauty58

I feel sorry for those that do not support those that living here after so many years. The world was not meant for you alone. Read your bible for Jesus said that you were once an alien in the land. He also said to help the alien, feed, cloth, and provide one for if you turn your back on them you are also turning your back on me.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Not all of we the people are against it. Plus the Administration or Children Services didn't provide that housing the taxpayers did. And the government has no right to take from one and give to another. That's up to the individual or charity. Or it should be.

JoyV

I agree. But also Trump's planned policy of having asylum seekers waiting outside of our borders while their cases are decided should be implemented.

debeda

JoyV

Cooperation???? Trump multiple times offered to expand DACA for a fraction of the money they gave Obama for the wall. Up until the offer, the outcry that DACA was the most important issue and Trump was a monster for not renewing it was heard daily. Once Trump made the offer, they refused and no more was heard about DACA from the left. Obama spent $2.4 billion on barriers, an unknown amount on purchasing private land through his land grab, law suites are still going on regarding his land grab, and negotiating how much will be paid for water rights, which his lawyers were too ignorant to include in the land grab deals is still up in the air. For all that money the US got inadequate or unworkable fencing along the Rio Grand in east Texas, and vehicle barriers well west of the Rio Grand boundary where i******s simply walk across the border.

So Obama spent $2.4 billion for:
2008-2009 - 27 miles of primary fencing and 70 miles of vehicle barrier was constructed in
Tucson Sector.
 2008-2009 - 14 miles of primary fencing was constructed in San Diego Sector.
 2008-2009 - 48 miles of primary fencing (levee) was constructed in Rio Grande Valley Sector.

Trump asked for $5 billion to build 234 miles of wall, NOT vehicle barriers!!!!

1st picture is Obama's billions of dollars "fence" he built in the highest illegal crossing sector.

2nd picture is the final piece of Trump's Naco wall section built a few miles from my home. Trump allocated the Naco section should be done with a cap of $42 million. It came in under budget and ahead of schedule. I've never before heard of a government project being done under budget!!!! The funds not used were reallocated.

debeda

JoyV

1) Where have kids in US schools been k**led with assault rifles?
2) Where are school shootings happening. In areas with little gun control or areas with strong gun control?
3) What has successfully stopped shooters? A defending person with a gun or enacting more laws with the goal that someone planning to do an illegal act will obey gun control laws to limit their murders.

As for the immigration reform, what you've written is both misleading and inaccurate.

The DREAM Act was introduced multiple times by Republicans for a v**e unsuccessfully. Then there was the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill presented by Democrats. It failed too. And no, it wasn't only Republicans who v**ed it down. Then a Dream Act amendment was tacked on to the Department of Defense Authorization bill. That was never brought to a v**e. Then a rewritten Dream Act bill was sponsored by 2 Republicans and a Democrat. It failed. The bill was revised and reintroduced under sponsors Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Harry Reid (D-NV), Mel Martinez (R-FL), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), and Russ Feingold (D-WI)[25] and U.S. Representative Howard Berman (D-CA). To date, 128 representatives[26] and 39 senators[25] (not including former Senator Edward Kennedy) co-sponsored the bill. It was again defeated. Next time it only had 2 sponsors but passed in the House and failed in the Senate. The next attempt had some Republicans state that they would v**e for it only if tougher immigration enforcement, including e-verify, was also instituted. Obama was against e-verify (it was one of the things his law suit against my state of AZ included was that we had implemented e-verify). In 2012 Obama signed the DACA executive order. In 2014 a similar immigration bill known as DAPA had passed in the Senate. On June 9, 2014, House Whip Kevin McCarthy announced that House Republicans had enough v**es to pass the bill. However, the next day House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his primary e******n, so on June 30, Speaker John Boehner announced that he would not bring the bill to a v**e. So it was NOT v**ed down by Republicans but was never brought to a v**e after many Republicans were willing to v**e for it!

All of the above bills were very similar to each other.

So both Democrats and Republicans have sponsored such bills. Both Democrats and Republicans have v**ed for them. And both Democrats and Republicans have v**ed against them.

JoyV

Melania is not, nor ever has been an i*****l a***n, nor brought here as a child by i*****l a***n parents!

Smedley_buzkill

Joy, here is what I would like you to do...
1). Go to the grocery store.
2). Find a fairly intelligent-looking turnip.
3). Purchase the turnip, take it home, and set it on your table.
4). Repeat your explanation. The turnip is more likely to understand than the person you were addressing.

Smedley_buzkill

Birth Citizenship for i******s was never intended by the authors of the 14th Amendment. This is a legal fiction. I have posted on this numerous times. The practice of granting birth citizenship to i******s is Unconstitutional as is evidenced by Elk v Wilkins1884, and by the comments of the authors of the Amendment. I can provide the exact text from the Congressional Record.

https://americaoutloud.com/39th-congress-transcript-anchor-babies-not-u-s-citizens/

http://www.federalistblog.us/2007/09/revisiting_subject_to_the_jurisdiction/
To this I would add that in Elk v Wilkins 1884, John Elk was ruled not a birth citizen because his parents were not citizens.
In 1924, via the Indian Citizenship Act, Indians were finally made citizens. If "all persons born or naturalized in the US and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" were already citizens, then why are the children of diplomats not citizens, and why did Indians require a special law to grant them citizenship and why was the Elk v Wilkins decision rendered? Because people born here who are NOT subject to the complete jurisdiction of the US are not citizens. Wetbacks cannot v**e, cannot work here legally, cannot pay taxes, cannot serve in the military and cannot be tried for treason. They are not subject to the jurisdiction in the complete sense of the word as intended by both the authors of the Amendment and the citizens of this country who v**ed to ratify it. The practice of granting birth citizenship to the children of wetbacks is a betrayal of both the those authors and US citizen v**ers.
In the case of US v Wong Kim Ark,1898, Wong Kim Ark was ruled a birth citizen because he was born to parents who were the 1898 version of permanent legal residents. The Court decision stated that all persons born to parents domiciled in the US are citizens. According to Black's Law (the primary legal dictionary used by the SCOTUS at the time), domiciled meant "maintaining a permanent legal primary residence." Domiciled people could v**e, serve in the military, work and pay taxes just like today's permanent legal residents. Nothing was said about the children of wetbacks, or even temporary legal residents.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Excellent post. Please keep posting it as it is the t***h not the BS that the "progressives" claim

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

She came as a student and then reverted to showing skin in skin book for young men..

Then got citizen ship for special abilities..or some such..

then she brought in her parents on the chain immigration that the orange a** h**es for anyone else..

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

Which just goes to show you the "value" of a college education. Melania is by far a classier dame than Cankles or Mooch.

Smedley_buzkill

Ah, yes, Moochelle. Got a degree in African-American Studies. Real tough one. I'll bet her daddy was so proud.
There are records of Michelle Obama working as an associate at a law firm but I have been unable to find a single instance where she appears as counsel of record. Maybe because it took her a couple of tries to pass the Bar? Her hubby had the worst record of any modern president in presenting cases to the SCOTUS, losing more than half.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

HA HA HA... Good one.. as if class is reflected in a skin book.. LOL

Yep, she looks good.. we willl excuse you while you exit to the bath room..