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May 15, 2019 15:17:45   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Big dog wrote:
Oh please.
To every action there’s an opposit reaction. There’s up and there’s down. There’s man and there’s woman. There’s good and there’s evil. There’s right and there’s wrong. There’s day and there’s night. There’s smart and there’s stupid. There’s us and there’s them. And them democrats, well, you get the picture.


I speak of an omnipotent being, there is no up or down in the universe.

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May 15, 2019 15:24:40   #
Big dog
 
Bahh. Is there an is ? And is there an ain’t?

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May 15, 2019 20:08:15   #
Nickolai
 
JW wrote:
Nicky, you represent the lay science aficionado very well. You personify the adage, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Like all of your ilk, you read something, incorporate that uncritically into your repertoire because someone called a scientist said it's so, and go on repeating it ad nauseum without ever understanding the ramifications of the conclusion you adopted.

If you had any real understansding of the evolutionary processes, you would understand why intelligent design is every bit the reality that evolution is.

You are so hung up on God that you cannot imagine a design process without a Supreme hand in the mix. You probably believe that evolutionary change responds to the needs of a creature. So many of you do. I can't understand that level of ignorance. Tell me this, do flying squirrels glide from tree to tree out of a need get to another tree or an ability to do it? If you go back in your mind to the first successful glide by one of those rodents, did that one accomplish it out of a need or an ability?

Think about that and then let's discuss the obvious ramifications of an animal's CHOICE to use a new ability.
Nicky, you represent the lay science aficionado ve... (show quote)




Lets use the evolution of the horse as an example. The modern horse is the result of 55 million years of evolution 55 million years ago the horse was a forest dwelling animal about the size of a dog. Paleozoologists have been able to piece together a more complete outline of the evolutionary lineage of the modern horse than of any other animal. Much of this evolution took place in North America, where horses originated but became extinct about 10,000 years ago. The horse belongs to the order Perissodactyla (odd-toed ungulates) the members of which all share hooved feet and an odd number of toes on each foot, as well as mobile upper lips and a similar tooth structure. This means that horses share a common ancestry with tapirs and rhinoceroses. The perissodactyls arose in the late Paleocene, less than 10 million years after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event.

The early ancestors of the modern horse walked on several spread-out toes, an accommodation to life spent walking on the soft, moist grounds of primeval forests. As grass species began to appear and flourish, the equids' diets shifted from foliage to grasses, leading to larger and more durable teeth. At the same time, as the steppes began to appear, the horse's predecessors needed to be capable of greater speeds to outrun predators. This was attained through the lengthening of limbs and the lifting of some toes from the ground in such a way that the weight of the body was gradually placed on one of the longest toes, the third. Today the horse walks not on one toe but the nail of a single toe the other toes have receded to bony splints on the back of the legs

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May 15, 2019 20:31:38   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are free to believe as you wish, Nik. You could have simply said that you do not believe God exists and left it there. Instead, you immediately contradict yourself. You say you have never "mocked, or criticized, or condemned anyone for their religious belief", then you immediately mock, criticize and condemn those who do believe implying that we are taken in by myths and fictional tales. And, you attempt to back up your contempt with unsupported and meaningless allusions to archeology and science.

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I don't condemn anyone for their belief " Mock " to laugh at in a scornful manner or contemptuous manner. I have laughed at any one I've simply presented my case Against supernatural beings. You conservatives amaze me if a media outlet doesn't lean to the right it is automatically labeled l*****t librul media and If an atheist makes a case for non belief he or she is mocking and condemning those who do. your damned if you do and damned if you don't Modern archaeology began in 1877. These were men who came to a dig with a shovel in one hand and a bible in the other there was nothing scientific about it.

One of the most important changes in the field of archaeology is analysis of archaeological evidence by scientific methods, which are developing day by day with new advanced scientific technology. There are lots of scientific methods which are used in the field of archaeology for dating the past, like Carbon-14, Potassium argon, Thermo luminescence, Fission Track, Pollen Analysis, Dendrochronology, Archaeomagnetism, Obsidian Hydration, Soil Analysis, and Magneto Meter. Mud drillings. Hitorical time lines. For example the story of Joseph mentions camel caravans and Camels were not used to haual cargo in caravans until centuries later than the time of Joseph

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May 15, 2019 20:46:20   #
Carol Kelly
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Look up the definition of the word "theory"...

Plenty of people who have a religion understand and accept evolution...



Thank you for your suggestion, but I do know the meaning of theory.

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May 15, 2019 20:47:34   #
Carol Kelly
 
Nickolai wrote:
I don't condemn anyone for their belief " Mock " to laugh at in a scornful manner or contemptuous manner. I have laughed at any one I've simply presented my case Against supernatural beings. You conservatives amaze me if a media outlet doesn't lean to the right it is automatically labeled l*****t librul media and If an atheist makes a case for non belief he or she is mocking and condemning those who do. your damned if you do and damned if you don't Modern archaeology began in 1877. These were men who came to a dig with a shovel in one hand and a bible in the other there was nothing scientific about it.

One of the most important changes in the field of archaeology is analysis of archaeological evidence by scientific methods, which are developing day by day with new advanced scientific technology. There are lots of scientific methods which are used in the field of archaeology for dating the past, like Carbon-14, Potassium argon, Thermo luminescence, Fission Track, Pollen Analysis, Dendrochronology, Archaeomagnetism, Obsidian Hydration, Soil Analysis, and Magneto Meter. Mud drillings. Hitorical time lines. For example the story of Joseph mentions camel caravans and Camels were not used to haual cargo in caravans until centuries later than the time of Joseph
I don't condemn anyone for their belief " ... (show quote)


Mary and Joseph rode a donkey, not a camel.

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May 15, 2019 21:06:34   #
Nickolai
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Mary and Joseph rode a donkey, not a camel.






Joseph and Mary weren't even born in the story of Joseph in Genesis and the coat of many colors

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May 15, 2019 22:58:51   #
Big dog
 
Nickolai wrote:
I don't condemn anyone for their belief " Mock " to laugh at in a scornful manner or contemptuous manner. I have laughed at any one I've simply presented my case Against supernatural beings. You conservatives amaze me if a media outlet doesn't lean to the right it is automatically labeled l*****t librul media and If an atheist makes a case for non belief he or she is mocking and condemning those who do. your damned if you do and damned if you don't Modern archaeology began in 1877. These were men who came to a dig with a shovel in one hand and a bible in the other there was nothing scientific about it.

One of the most important changes in the field of archaeology is analysis of archaeological evidence by scientific methods, which are developing day by day with new advanced scientific technology. There are lots of scientific methods which are used in the field of archaeology for dating the past, like Carbon-14, Potassium argon, Thermo luminescence, Fission Track, Pollen Analysis, Dendrochronology, Archaeomagnetism, Obsidian Hydration, Soil Analysis, and Magneto Meter. Mud drillings. Hitorical time lines. For example the story of Joseph mentions camel caravans and Camels were not used to haual cargo in caravans until centuries later than the time of Joseph
I don't condemn anyone for their belief " ... (show quote)


God created evolution. Dwell on that.

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May 16, 2019 00:26:04   #
JW
 
Nickolai wrote:
Lets use the evolution of the horse as an example. The modern horse is the result of 55 million years of evolution 55 million years ago the horse was a forest dwelling animal about the size of a dog. Paleozoologists have been able to piece together a more complete outline of the evolutionary lineage of the modern horse than of any other animal. Much of this evolution took place in North America, where horses originated but became extinct about 10,000 years ago. The horse belongs to the order Perissodactyla (odd-toed ungulates) the members of which all share hooved feet and an odd number of toes on each foot, as well as mobile upper lips and a similar tooth structure. This means that horses share a common ancestry with tapirs and rhinoceroses. The perissodactyls arose in the late Paleocene, less than 10 million years after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event.

The early ancestors of the modern horse walked on several spread-out toes, an accommodation to life spent walking on the soft, moist grounds of primeval forests. As grass species began to appear and flourish, the equids' diets shifted from foliage to grasses, leading to larger and more durable teeth. At the same time, as the steppes began to appear, the horse's predecessors needed to be capable of greater speeds to outrun predators. This was attained through the lengthening of limbs and the lifting of some toes from the ground in such a way that the weight of the body was gradually placed on one of the longest toes, the third. Today the horse walks not on one toe but the nail of a single toe the other toes have receded to bony splints on the back of the legs
Lets use the evolution of the horse as an example.... (show quote)


Did the horses that outran predators get longer legs to escape predators or did they escape predators because they had longer legs? My guess is that the ones that needed longer legs probably got eaten. Further, they had a choice to make, stand and fight or run. The successful ones apparently chose to run.

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May 16, 2019 00:57:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion, but I do know the meaning of theory.


Then you no doubt understand that after something has been proven it is still refered to as a theory....

Which makes your earlier post somewhat confusing...

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May 16, 2019 01:31:33   #
Nickolai
 
Big dog wrote:
God created evolution. Dwell on that.







How did he or she do that and more importantly why? What was the purpose ? And why does every organism need to k**l something else and eat it in order to survive, and of the millions of organisms are 60 % of them parasites that make their living attaching them selves to other things and sucking their juices out ?

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May 16, 2019 02:50:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
How did he or she do that and more importantly why? What was the purpose ? And why does every organism need to k**l something else and eat it in order to survive, and of the millions of organisms are 60 % of them parasites that make their living attaching them selves to other things and sucking their juices out ?
I've heard it said that there is no such thing as a stupid question. You are proving this theory wrong.

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May 16, 2019 09:40:16   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Big dog wrote:
Bahh. Is there an is ? And is there an ain’t?


Wow, you use such big words!!!!

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May 16, 2019 10:56:56   #
Nickolai
 
JW wrote:
Did the horses that outran predators get longer legs to escape predators or did they escape predators because they had longer legs? My guess is that the ones that needed longer legs probably got eaten. Further, they had a choice to make, stand and fight or run. The successful ones apparently chose to run.











They got bigger stronger and faster and hose who escaped the predators lived to mate and reproduce passing their favorable genes to the next generation and the biggest strongest and fastest of that generation repeated ect ect

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May 16, 2019 11:21:22   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I've heard it said that there is no such thing as a stupid question. You are proving this theory wrong.





Stupid question ?? how so I think they are ligitimate questions. With a planet so tiny so insignificant in a cosmos vast beyond comprehension why is there so much attention from this holy spirit and if he created his world why did he create such a cruel world but most important what was the purpose ? is it because he was just playing around another question why human beings and snakes skeletons so similar is structure and why do snakes have vestiges of legs. shurly its because their early ancestors walked on legs rather than slithering.

Humans and snakes both have skulls, backbones and ribs that support and protect the softer structures in the body. Humans and snakes are each highly derived descendants of a common ancestor, so many features of their skeletons are analogous to each other, albeit heavily modified.
Humans and snakes both have skulls that contain brains and support most of the animals' sense organs, such as eyes and noses. Both have jawbones, though mammalian jaws are very simple, and reptilian jaws are complex arrangements of bone and cartilage. Humans and snakes both have teeth, although the number and types of each set vary between species, and even from one individual to another.
Snakes and humans each have identifiable neck, upper back and lower back vertebrae, and the bones of the spine are recognizably similar in form and function. Both types of bone are ring-shaped, with central gaps to support the passage of the spinal cord. Snakes usually have many more vertebrae than humans, and most of the bones in the vertebral column support a set of ribs. Humans also have ribs, though they are fewer in number than snakes', and all are attached to the bones of the upper back. A few snake species, such as boas, have structures analogous to hips and hind legs, but these are vestigial and are greatly diminished in size.

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