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May 9, 2019 05:23:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
John King wrote:
Thank you Kyle for a great point by point evaluation of my comment. This is a style of communication missing in many sites where people give their point of view. Personally, I strive to stay within the context of the comment I am addressing. This is done by a copy and paste of the comment to another program . . . reading through the comment so I get a good grasp of what is being said . . . then I write my response. And then one can't forget the main topic of conversation in the first place!


It is always a pleasure to exchange views in a civil manner...
I have little experience with other sites...
But one great thing about the OPP is that we can carry on multiple conversations on the same thread...
Some members prefer that posters stay on topic... Others are fine with conversations evolving... Others still enjoy it when a thread is hijacked and evolves/ devolves into something entirely different...
I try to stay on topic unless I know the poster...

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We can all learn from each other if we strive to stay on point . . . try and give support for our position . . . and strive to be as clear as possible in making our point. Perhaps this is asking to much from some but its worth a try just putting this thought out there.


Couldn't agree more...
Unfortunately it is rare for a thread to stay focused... Too often old grievances are brought into the conversation... Or members focus on petty insults...

I believe that the issue posed in this thread is quite important...
Religious bias should never be allowed into our educational systems... Nor should Muslims (or Jews or Christians or Sihks... In Western Canada we are having many issues with the Sihks and their religion) be allowed to dictate changes that affect all of us...

Stay strong John...

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May 9, 2019 08:00:11   #
Radiance3
 
John King wrote:
I find that there is a sect of Islam that is not as radical and doesn't believe or stand for some practices that are common in most Islamic nations. Those are the kind of Muslims that have blended in with the standards of American law and live peaceably in our society.

But those that strive to instill Sharia Law into Americas jurisprudence are overstepping their position. As most religious people, they seek to be Muslim first before claiming patriotism to any nation. Although I support this position, there is much to be weighed before one decides to not obey the laws of the land. Even today we have cases in courts where Christians choose to not bake a cake designed with gay paraphernalia and thus not condone homosexuality which is against their religion. So, there are reasons to place Gods word and commandments above the laws of the land!

But, whenever a religious group makes demands on our government officials or those who work in tax-funded entities, these groups demands must be flatly declined with the 1st Amendment declared as the foundation of their position!

Deportation is the last and final step to take in this issue and can not be taken without cause and a legal battle has taken place. If they are here legally, they have every right to treated as American citizens with all the rights we all have!

Lets not overstep our position either by demanding they be kicked out without exhausting every legal avenue available!

.....again, this is just my opinion!
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I understand there are very few who are silent but don't condone behavior of the 99% radicals. That 99% believe that those who don't submit must be k**led. That's there in their Koran, or Hadith. Except they wait for the moment when they are at the upper hand.

9/11 terror attack in NYC, where 2,997 died, and tens of thousands injured. All over the US, and the world, Muslims celebrated, danced, partied, and jumped up and down among each other. In almost all cities and states in the US Muslims celebrated the terror attack.

Then after everything was under renovation at Ground Zero, Muslim bought piece of property where they built Mosques, and Muslim cultural center. This structure is just few feet away from Ground Zero. It was reported as a victory towards the infidels who must be stopped and annihilated.

Where are my Christian brothers and sisters now in the Middle East? They were mostly k**led. Few hundreds survive now, and they are hiding. Their churches and homes burned. Their properties confiscated.

But they are here in the US having good time, free everything abundantly have good life. That includes free education, free medical care, free housing, and many have food stamps. Men married many wives, and these wives with many children, have welfare and food stamp subsidies. As they enlarge their population, they strike.

Watch out that huge mouth of Ilan Omar, and Talib. They are t*****rs. Muslims elected them because there are so many of them in that district. They rapidly multiply because men marries so many wives. They will rule this country, and throw the Christians out, if not k**led.

Christian population all over the world is shrinking because millions are k**led by Muslims. Now, Muslims are rapidly growing now in billions of them.

I don't trust them at all. Why does their god command to k**l Christians and Jews, unless they submit to him? When Muslims k**l, god tells them they go to heaven. K*****g infidels is their number obligation to their god.

I will never trust Muslims. T*****rs Omar and Talib make me more dislike them.

You like Muslims, that's your choice. Enjoy while you are still free. Try living in the Middle East.

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May 9, 2019 09:14:55   #
Radiance3
 
John King wrote:
I find that there is a sect of Islam that is not as radical and doesn't believe or stand for some practices that are common in most Islamic nations. Those are the kind of Muslims that have blended in with the standards of American law and live peaceably in our society.

But those that strive to instill Sharia Law into Americas jurisprudence are overstepping their position. As most religious people, they seek to be Muslim first before claiming patriotism to any nation. Although I support this position, there is much to be weighed before one decides to not obey the laws of the land. Even today we have cases in courts where Christians choose to not bake a cake designed with gay paraphernalia and thus not condone homosexuality which is against their religion. So, there are reasons to place Gods word and commandments above the laws of the land!

But, whenever a religious group makes demands on our government officials or those who work in tax-funded entities, these groups demands must be flatly declined with the 1st Amendment declared as the foundation of their position!

Deportation is the last and final step to take in this issue and can not be taken without cause and a legal battle has taken place. If they are here legally, they have every right to treated as American citizens with all the rights we all have!

Lets not overstep our position either by demanding they be kicked out without exhausting every legal avenue available!

.....again, this is just my opinion!
I find that there is a sect of Islam that is not a... (show quote)


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Nobody is kicking them out. In fact had Hillary won, she promised to allowing 550% of Muslims annually to the US, a price for the Arab donations to her campaign, and the make believe foundation.

Omar and Talib are blatantly big mouthing the US, why are they in Congress paid for by the taxpayers?
I don't like these two Muslims big mouthing my country, where my husband died serving to protect it.

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May 9, 2019 13:42:18   #
promilitary
 
Yes, by all means, let's bless the damned Muslims. But don't turn your back on them.

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May 9, 2019 13:57:20   #
John King
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I understand there are very few who are silent but don't condone behavior of the 99% radicals. That 99% believe that those who don't submit must be k**led. That's there in their Koran, or Hadith. Except they wait for the moment when they are at the upper hand.

9/11 terror attack in NYC, where 2,997 died, and tens of thousands injured. All over the US, and the world, Muslims celebrated, danced, partied, and jumped up and down among each other. In almost all cities and states in the US Muslims celebrated the terror attack.

Then after everything was under renovation at Ground Zero, Muslim bought piece of property where they built Mosques, and Muslim cultural center. This structure is just few feet away from Ground Zero. It was reported as a victory towards the infidels who must be stopped and annihilated.

Where are my Christian brothers and sisters now in the Middle East? They were mostly k**led. Few hundreds survive now, and they are hiding. Their churches and homes burned. Their properties confiscated.

But they are here in the US having good time, free everything abundantly have good life. That includes free education, free medical care, free housing, and many have food stamps. Men married many wives, and these wives with many children, have welfare and food stamp subsidies. As they enlarge their population, they strike.

Watch out that huge mouth of Ilan Omar, and Talib. They are t*****rs. Muslims elected them because there are so many of them in that district. They rapidly multiply because men marries so many wives. They will rule this country, and throw the Christians out, if not k**led.

Christian population all over the world is shrinking because millions are k**led by Muslims. Now, Muslims are rapidly growing now in billions of them.

I don't trust them at all. Why does their god command to k**l Christians and Jews, unless they submit to him? When Muslims k**l, god tells them they go to heaven. K*****g infidels is their number obligation to their god.

I will never trust Muslims. T*****rs Omar and Talib make me more dislike them.

You like Muslims, that's your choice. Enjoy while you are still free. Try living in the Middle East.
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You know, after some thought on my last comment, I think I would deport all Muslims because their religion plainly states they are to k**l all infidels! And that's CONDONED MURDER!!!

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May 9, 2019 16:09:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
EL wrote:
I SO believe that, Carol. It's just that to get the pledge back into the schools. I think that's necessary. The God part wasn't always in the pledge. I never said it that way when I was in school. It was before it was put in. I actually believe they should also say a silent prayer (or not) before starting the school day. But that will probably never happen again in what was once America.


In total agreement. Things will never work out for us without being grateful to God, silently or otherwise. It sure can’t hurt anyone, anyone at all.

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May 9, 2019 16:12:12   #
Carol Kelly
 
John King wrote:
You know, after some thought on my last comment, I think I would deport all Muslims because their religion plainly states they are to k**l all infidels! And that's CONDONED MURDER!!!


Good for you. They should not be in here in the first place. We must take care of our own and putting Muslims in public office is being extremely negligent. As they multiply like rats, they’ll begin winning against us.

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May 9, 2019 16:23:55   #
Radiance3
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Good for you. They should not be in here in the first place. We must take care of our own and putting Muslims in public office is being extremely negligent. As they multiply like rats, they’ll begin winning against us.


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Like the mouth of Ilan Omar. She never stops denigrating our country. Ungrateful wrench!

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May 9, 2019 19:39:55   #
teabag09
 
promilitary wrote:
Yes, by all means, let's bless the damned Muslims. But don't turn your back on them.


Bless them with a 5.56 right between the eyes. Save the cost of deportation. Mike

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May 10, 2019 03:18:26   #
ExperienceCounts
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I can understand the reasoning... I would have no issue with a teacher who chose to offer a religious greeting... But I find it offensive that teachers were instructed to do so....

As always, your opinion is most welcome


Your friend, Kyle


I was once, as a state/local government employee, told not to say, "Merry Christmas," on the job. Once I was no longer an employee my attitude and speech changed, "Merry Christmas, Happy Easter, God bless you, and I will pray for you, are all part of my frequent speech patterns.

Don't tell me not to say them when the airways & music, and our political leaders urge h**e and promote vulgarity, and promote violence of one section of the America public against another. Our politicians abandoned American citizen's well being while promoting socialism for illegal hoards using citizen's monies. Why else not work to secure our borders and eject law breakers. Amnesty didn't work in the past, it won't work now.

If you want to attack my Christian beliefs, I will tell you to read the Bible with comprehension, then come back and you tell me what I believe. From what I have seen and read, the Dem's platform is pure and simple, anti God, and pro worldly sin. Feelings are what's important. I must agree to help them promote sins and Satan's sinful agendas or I am h**e filled and phobic. I can live or die with that, my eternity is in heaven unless I deny the Father.

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May 10, 2019 03:39:37   #
John King
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
I was once, as a state/local government employee, told not to say, "Merry Christmas," on the job. Once I was no longer an employee my attitude and speech changed, "Merry Christmas, Happy Easter, God bless you, and I will pray for you, are all part of my frequent speech patterns.

Don't tell me not to say them when the airways & music, and our political leaders urge h**e and promote vulgarity, and promote violence of one section of the America public against another. Our politicians abandoned American citizen's well being while promoting socialism for illegal hoards using citizen's monies. Why else not work to secure our borders and eject law breakers. Amnesty didn't work in the past, it won't work now.

If you want to attack my Christian beliefs, I will tell you to read the Bible with comprehension, then come back and you tell me what I believe. From what I have seen and read, the Dem's platform is pure and simple, anti God, and pro worldly sin. Feelings are what's important. I must agree to help them promote sins and Satan's sinful agendas or I am h**e filled and phobic. I can live or die with that, my eternity is in heaven unless I deny the Father.
I was once, as a state/local government employee, ... (show quote)


Well said! Bravo!

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