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May 6, 2019 20:52:59   #
Carol Kelly
 
son of witless wrote:
I can sit at parties, make small talk, and be polite. However, having two guys kiss each other at the party in front of me is too much, but I kept my mouth shut. Mustn't make a scene. Don't look for me at the next party. I didn't expect to be invited to this one. I am far too old to accept the new normal. Still I did not go looking for trouble. They stay in their corner and I will stay in mine. Live and let live.

When they began targeting Christian businesses, I completely turned against them.
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Amen. And no one wants to see anyone smooching in public at a party or otherwise.

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May 6, 2019 20:55:13   #
Carol Kelly
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I wonder, do you wear makeup Carol?


I’m a woman so I do for the benefit of others who must look upon my countenance.
Good question.

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May 6, 2019 21:14:34   #
Divine truth
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
If it isn’t the business of the government, why then does the
government force acceptance of it on us?


Carol Kelly, it is the business of the Shadow government or hidden government, make no mistake about this T***h. It's all about the money, and all morality is out the window.

They force it, and the gullible ignorance masses accepted it. To each his own, stay far away from me, and I have terminated all support and interaction with this Community.

I can't serve God, and the devil, or two Masters. I was blessed to have a beautiful, and divine gift from heaven and of European descent. Someone who is on my page, in my corner.

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May 6, 2019 21:27:45   #
Carol Kelly
 
Divine t***h wrote:
I don't think it's the Constitutional government we are referring to here, with same sex relationship and marriage. It's the Shadow government, the international bankers, and the dark forces. Its is written as we all know, in the Bible, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principality and spiritual wickeness in high places (Isaiah 14: 27-28). And I stand corrected if incorrect on the chapter number. O how thou is falling Lucifer, is part of the version of the point I'm making. In the book of Isaiah, we can identify spiritual wickeness in high places. I will ascend the Clouds, I will be like the most high. This is where the Homosexual cult operate from, in their demonic state of mental and psychological attacks and Terror. So, its not the government we are talking about, when its comes to same sex marriage, and their rights, and the destruction of the family structure and sexual orientation or relationship. Something to think about, and contemplate on this matter and issue, food for thought.
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May 6, 2019 21:29:46   #
Carol Kelly
 
kemmer wrote:
Maybe some poor gay fool who wants to be straight could go to one of those "conversion camps"and have electrodes attached to his balls which jolt him when he's shown gay porn. That'll work, right?


I think that’s a sadistic comment.

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May 6, 2019 22:13:42   #
Divine truth
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I think that’s a sadistic comment.


You have a moral, civil and constitutional right to think that the statement is sadistic, and I respect your right to express yourself. However, its don't change the T***h or alter the actual facts on the subject matter.

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May 6, 2019 22:34:31   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There are four kinds of love. Agape. Phileo, Storge, and Eros.

Agape is Divine Love, the unconditional love of God for His children.
Phileo is love for friends, for fellow human beings.
Storge is family love.
Eros is romantic love.

The marriage of a man and a woman ordained by Agage is the only instance where all four kinds of love are united.



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May 6, 2019 22:57:52   #
Divine truth
 
I respect the seven expression of Christian love, and review the definition of the four love that you stated my beloved sister. Absence in theses definition is the best love, known and given to all of humanity. The love between me and my Queen, soulmate and future Russian wife is divine love. Divine love, and spiritual love is the best of all loves. Because it is from above and not below, or carnal minded, or lust or sexual desire. It's heavenly and Divinely inspired and given, this is the love that is unknown to many in all relationships. Most relationship is not about love, it's greed, lust, sex, money and what can I get from you. This isn't love or genuine love, or the meaning of love.

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May 7, 2019 01:08:45   #
kemmer
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
If it isn’t the business of the government, why then does the
government force acceptance of it on us?

No gov't. is forcing anyone to get married.

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May 7, 2019 01:10:48   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The marriage of a man and a woman ordained by Agage is the only instance where all four kinds of love are united.

You live in a sad little world of your own making. BTW, it's "agape".

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May 7, 2019 06:19:19   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
bahmer wrote:
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.
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Amen, can't believe that some churches are accepting this lifestyle, when it states in God's word that it is an a*********n to him. Like the word says, at the end of days, good will be called evil, and evil called good! They are not born into this, this is the enemy talking to them, telling them lies, and they are following satan's plan. So sad, pray they will wake up!

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May 7, 2019 06:19:51   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
All our sins can be and will be forgiven if we repent and live a truer life. However, if we admit that we are living in sin and continue to do so, we’ll be left behind. In my most humble opinion, t*********rs spit in the face of God by trying to improve on His perfection. I’m not perfect but like most of us, I try to live up to what God created me for.


Amen!

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May 7, 2019 06:23:48   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Divine t***h wrote:
I don't think it's the Constitutional government we are referring to here, with same sex relationship and marriage. It's the Shadow government, the international bankers, and the dark forces. Its is written as we all know, in the Bible, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principality and spiritual wickeness in high places (Isaiah 14: 27-28). And I stand corrected if incorrect on the chapter number. O how thou is falling Lucifer, is part of the version of the point I'm making. In the book of Isaiah, we can identify spiritual wickeness in high places. I will ascend the Clouds, I will be like the most high. This is where the Homosexual cult operate from, in their demonic state of mental and psychological attacks and Terror. So, its not the government we are talking about, when its comes to same sex marriage, and their rights, and the destruction of the family structure and sexual orientation or relationship. Something to think about, and contemplate on this matter and issue, food for thought.
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Correct, satan's plan.

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May 7, 2019 06:26:34   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Mr. Rogers wrote:
Jesus proved to the whole world that he was the son of God when he rose from the dead. He has proclaimed God's way to inherit eternal life.
Some people do not want to be saved. They just want to live in pleasure. But all decisions have consequences. Good ones and bad ones. Should not our government leaders make and promote good decisions?

2 Timothy 3:1-8

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 T*****rs, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the t***h.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the t***h: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Do not these versus of scripture describe "h**ers of Christianity?

2 Corinthians 5:10

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
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Amen, don't think we will be here much longer!

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May 7, 2019 08:44:46   #
kemmer
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Amen, can't believe that some churches are accepting this lifestyle, when it states in God's word that it is an a*********n to him. Like the word says, at the end of days, good will be called evil, and evil called good! They are not born into this, this is the enemy talking to them, telling them lies, and they are following satan's plan. So sad, pray they will wake up!

“God’s word” also says eating shellfish and crustaceans, and wearing clothing of mixed fibres are a*********ns. Are we allowed to cherry-pick which are indeed a*********ns and which we can safely ignore?

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