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May 5, 2019 12:11:48   #
bahmer
 
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.

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May 5, 2019 12:28:00   #
Morgan
 
bahmer wrote:
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home ... (show quote)


Tell me what business is it of anybody and especially a government, to what sexual choices people make...none. What business is it of anyone of what people do with their own body...none.

Do you see that what you wrote is "Completely Conditional" and not one of Love.

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May 5, 2019 13:10:16   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Morgan wrote:
Tell me what business is it of anybody and especially a government, to what sexual choices people make...none. What business is it of anyone of what people do with their own body...none.

Do you see that what you wrote is "Completely Conditional" and not one of Love.


U of course missed the whole point! U are the h**er!

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May 5, 2019 13:11:14   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
THabk you bahmer! God is love and we come to him as we are and leave the rest to him!

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May 5, 2019 13:24:17   #
Carol Kelly
 
bahmer wrote:
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home ... (show quote)


All our sins can be and will be forgiven if we repent and live a truer life. However, if we admit that we are living in sin and continue to do so, we’ll be left behind. In my most humble opinion, t*********rs spit in the face of God by trying to improve on His perfection. I’m not perfect but like most of us, I try to live up to what God created me for.

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May 5, 2019 13:42:23   #
son of witless
 
Morgan wrote:
Tell me what business is it of anybody and especially a government, to what sexual choices people make...none. What business is it of anyone of what people do with their own body...none.

Do you see that what you wrote is "Completely Conditional" and not one of Love.


Since the government made it it's business to tell bakeries what type of wedding cakes they must make, telling them what sexual choices to make is obviously merely another field government needs to get into.

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May 5, 2019 14:30:44   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
All our sins can be and will be forgiven if we repent and live a truer life. However, if we admit that we are living in sin and continue to do so, we’ll be left behind. In my most humble opinion, t*********rs spit in the face of God by trying to improve on His perfection. I’m not perfect but like most of us, I try to live up to what God created me for.

I wonder, do you wear makeup Carol?

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May 5, 2019 15:10:05   #
Divine truth
 
bahmer wrote:
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home ... (show quote)



Arthur Christopher, I humbly and respectfully bear to differ with you. I respect your right to express yourself, or exercise your constitutional right, thus incorrect or immoral as it may be, respectfully. I have to pose this question, what's God are you referring to in His unconditional love? Lucifer, AKA is also identified as a G-D, and worship by many, not a few. The L***Q community has a right to be themselves, but, wether we accept them or not. However, they don't have a right to impose their live on others, with terrorist tactics, and with impunty. The Christian belief is beautiful, and I am prophesied in the Bible, and my life mission. And in that's life mission, Homosexuality isn't mentioned, or my sexual orientation (1 Cor. 27-28). But God hath chosen the weak things, of the world" to shame the mighty things. I came into the full reality of my mission and the power of the spirit within at a young age. About 15 or 16th years old, I received an love letter in the mail. I was thinking that some mystery girl liked me, and that I had another female partner. The letter was from my late homosexual brother. Who was indoctrinatied into the cult, or Homosexual Terror cult, which I identify the L***Q community as a cult. That's pry on individuals of interest to them or their dysfunctional sexual desire. As young kids my Mother's took us to two church members apartment after church. I wasn't able to know, at a early age, that the two church males members was lovers and homosexuals. I recall them always mentioning the male penis. Its was a laughing matter to my mother's, and she's never knew the severity of the consequences of her actions, or defective teaching of the Bible, Christianity and the word of God....or she's just didn't care. Which is common attitude of "African Americans" females even to this very day. As I grew older, matters started to come to light. Bob and Bennie was deacons of the family church. Bob would give the kids five dollars to perform oral sex on us. Since my early days, and the present, the Homosexual Terror cult have been stalking me, and setting traps a long my path. Unknown "African American" homosexual made this statement on social media. "********* (My name), please come out the closet". The only thing in my closet is my suits and clothing. If, I was "gay" (which I'm not), I would had come forward. The word "gay" means happy, not engaging in sexual relationship or having a relationship with the same sex. So, the word "gay" is applicable to everyone. Because, we are happy to be alive, and in our respective life and careers and achievements. There's is a saying in the Church and Christianity to wit is; I'm so glad, and the devil is so mad, because he missed the soul he thought he had". 2000, my government benefits (SSD), was terminated by the Homosexual Terror cult. Because of my involvement, at that time, in the Nation of Islam. We have to be very careful when we publicly write or speak about members of the L***Q community, or extend support to them. And, to not extend support or express a degree of love, isn't "homophobia" or anti-gay. I supported and expressed humanity love, and comfort to a "African American" lesbian in her last days. I took her to the hospital, and stay with her into the morning hours. Negated my appointments and personal affairs. Her lesbians girlfriend's wasn't there's for her, it was this Moslem and former member of the Nation of Islam. When, she's was released from the hospital, to die at home. Her lesbians girlfriend's, said to her, when she's told everyone what's I did for her. They responded; "he just wanted to sleep with you". The farest thing from my mind, and was no where in my sight, spirit or actions. Sharon, case worker, declined to assist her, and its was God blessing, and work, that I was presence to be of humanity service to her. This is genuine unconditional love. This life experience gave me insight into the demonic thinking of some members of the L***Q community. Unknown "African American" homosexual at a community based organization, wanted to perform oral sex on this T***h, civil, constitutional activist. And, he wanted me to denounce the leader of the Nation of Islam, as a active member, in dress. There's was some heated words exchanged between us. The Homosexual got upset, because I stated that he's was crazy for sucking penis, when he called me "crazy" for not agreeing with him on the Nation of Islam, leader John Doe threw hot soup in my eyes, and nearly blinded me. Then he'd lied about the incident. I asked the female, who set this ugly incident up, to come forward to tell the t***h. She's declined, her nefarious behavior and actions verify my publicly position statement, that the Homosexual Community control about 65% of all females or more. No one h**e members of the L***Q community, we just have a different perception and perspective. I reiterate my statement above, they don't have a right to impose their lives on others with impunty. And violate others, human, civil, and constitutional rights. Every parent will love, what they gave birth to, in pain. Some members of the L***Q community interpret love and sexual interest, or desire....as being "homophobia" or dislike toward them. Which isn't the case, and in reality is their dysfunctional state, and preception and mental disorder. I had a Caucasian and "African American" female call me "homophobia". The Caucasian female, because I identified a openly homosexual by his sexual orientation, in a income tax return fraud. I didn't know his name, and would had mentioned it, if it was known. I posed a question to President Obama pastor at a church event. During the question and answer session. Unknown "African American" female jumped up, and called me "homophobia". Because of a question I posed to Rev. Wright. I reached out to her, and she's rejected my hand. I was denied access back into the church event. Unconditional love, or the expression of h**e within the body of Christ. The only unconditional love, that I have witness is in my interracial unique spiritual union in Russia. I humbly and respectfully challenge all my beloved and unbeloved Christians sisters and brothers to try divine love vs. Unconditional love. My disagreement with members of my ethnicity and females, don't dictate h**e, in light of their evil committed against me I love them, from a distance. To love them up close, would send the wrong message. I know some beautiful L***Q members, and respect them, and some real evil ones. I had a Latino homosexual express interest in me, while buying a new cell phone. The first call on that cell phone, after company hours, came from the Latino's homosexual. When, I made a inquiry into the number on my phone. The cell phone homosexual employer didn't know who he'd called; "who is this". The degree of some of their mental state or disease is very toxic and dangerous, respectfully. I am not wrong, for identifying this Community as a Terror cult and cell. Whenever, you terrorizied someone, and empoly torture to get someone to accept, or join your community, you aren't human. These are acts of beast in human form. They don't want love, they want to impose their lifestyle and violence agenda on America and our childrens. Yes, the Creator's created them and all things in life. Anybody can quotes scriptures to fit their agenda or objective. That's agenda and objective can be violence, bloody and to the extreme left. I was there for a Jewish bisexual woman on her death bed. Before she's made her unfortunate t***sition, she informed others of my loving and Humanity spirit. I acknowledge that she's wanted to defeat the negative opposition coming from the females and some members of the "African American" L***Q community. It's extremely hard to like or love someone, who h**e you, or extend unconditional love to them, up close. The L***Q community has no one to blame for the growing resentment or opposition, but themselves and their "African American" , Latino's Americans members and Caucasian females. And all stated herein is with love, and divine love, absence h**e or malice. My beautiful Russian soulmate radiate Divine love, and taught me a lot about love, divine love and unconditional love.

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May 6, 2019 07:28:47   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
All our sins can be and will be forgiven if we repent and live a truer life. However, if we admit that we are living in sin and continue to do so, we’ll be left behind. In my most humble opinion, t*********rs spit in the face of God by trying to improve on His perfection. I’m not perfect but like most of us, I try to live up to what God created me for.


Amen and amen!

I don't read in the Bible anywhere that anyone was told to "come as you are." What I read is that the first step (upon believing which isn't an actual "step") is to repent.

When people say "come as you are" I believe they are missing the whole point of the cross. Not only was Jesus reconciling us by paying the penalty for our sins on our behalf, but he was also giving us an example to "take up our cross daily", meaning dying out to ourselves (which is not the same as "coming as you are") Paul explained:

"1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2May it never be! We who died to sin, how could we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection; 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be in bondage to sin. 7For he who has died has been freed from sin." Rom. 6:1-7

"1If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth. 3For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.
5Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry; 6for which things' sake the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience. 7You also once walked in those, when you lived in them; 8but now you also put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and shameful speaking out of your mouth. 9Don't lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his doings, 10and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator, 11where there can't be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondservant, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all." Col. 3:1-11.

Verse 5 above is a command, an imperative, and the way Paul describes it, not at all optional. If there's no conforming to the likeness of Christ in his death (repentance) and burial (water baptism), then there is also not going to be a likeness of his resurrection (spirit baptism). We do the dying out part just as we submit to the water baptism part, but God gives the Spirit and with it the new life wherein we can walk in righteousness.

"37Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" 38Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all who are far off, even as many as the Lord our God will call to himself." Acts 2:37-39

I believe a lot of people have been seduced by a watered down, Gnostic version of the gospel of Jesus the Anointed One.

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May 6, 2019 07:33:03   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Morgan wrote:
Tell me what business is it of anybody and especially a government, to what sexual choices people make...none. What business is it of anyone of what people do with their own body...none.

Do you see that what you wrote is "Completely Conditional" and not one of Love.


The job of the government is to protect people. Aids, herpes, VD, gonorrhea, porn addiction, increased suicide rates and broken families don't protect people. They put them in harm's way. Same-sex people don't reproduce, which is the primary purpose of marriage and having sex. A man and women both give something up to reproduce. Same-sex both give the same thing and don't produce new life. It's mostly self-serving and not about love but the big 'O'. Calling it love or marriage cheapens the real thing for a cheap imitation of the real thing. It cheapens life. Just my opinion and personal observations. Most same-sex people are pro-a******n. No surprise to me. Most now support socialism, again no surprise to me. I came from a broken family because of one parent putting the big O above keeping their vows and being faithful. To use farming terms, you're eating your seed corn. You could have had a ten, or hundredfold increase, you ate your seed corn and will now starve, a slow painful death. But before you die you spread the lie, death, and destruction as far and as wide as you can and the t***h and light are hidden.

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May 6, 2019 07:51:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
son of witless wrote:
Since the government made it it's business to tell bakeries what type of wedding cakes they must make, telling them what sexual choices to make is obviously merely another field government needs to get into.


The government didn’t make it their business it was brought to them by the people who wanted change to force their belief on everyone else claiming discrimination..

So it is they who made it governments business and all ours too..

A private matter it is and should be yet now its a matter of strong contention...

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May 6, 2019 09:35:16   #
Divine truth
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Amen and amen!

I don't read in the Bible anywhere that anyone was told to "come as you are." What I read is that the first step (upon believing which isn't an actual "step") is to repent.

When people say "come as you are" I believe they are missing the whole point of the cross. Not only was Jesus reconciling us by paying the penalty for our sins on our behalf, but he was also giving us an example to "take up our cross daily", meaning dying out to ourselves (which is not the same as "coming as you are") Paul explained:

"1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2May it never be! We who died to sin, how could we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were buried therefore with him through baptism to death, that just like Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life. 5For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will also be part of his resurrection; 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be in bondage to sin. 7For he who has died has been freed from sin." Rom. 6:1-7

"1If then you were raised together with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on the earth. 3For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, our life, is revealed, then you will also be revealed with him in glory.
5Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry; 6for which things' sake the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience. 7You also once walked in those, when you lived in them; 8but now you also put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and shameful speaking out of your mouth. 9Don't lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his doings, 10and have put on the new man, who is being renewed in knowledge after the image of his Creator, 11where there can't be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondservant, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all." Col. 3:1-11.

Verse 5 above is a command, an imperative, and the way Paul describes it, not at all optional. If there's no conforming to the likeness of Christ in his death (repentance) and burial (water baptism), then there is also not going to be a likeness of his resurrection (spirit baptism). We do the dying out part just as we submit to the water baptism part, but God gives the Spirit and with it the new life wherein we can walk in righteousness.

"37Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" 38Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all who are far off, even as many as the Lord our God will call to himself." Acts 2:37-39

I believe a lot of people have been seduced by a watered down, Gnostic version of the gospel of Jesus the Anointed One.
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A whole lot of people have been decieved, and seduced by Satan's and "a watered down Gnostic version of the Gospel of Jesus". I have to agree with you on this comment, and partially disagree on other statements avowed herein, respectfully. Gnostic version the first time I heard someone mentioned this Gnostic version in making a intelligence opposition statement on the Bible or argument or rebuttal

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May 6, 2019 09:52:34   #
Divine truth
 
lindajoy wrote:
The government didn’t make it their business it was brought to them by the people who wanted change to force their belief on everyone else claiming discrimination..

So it is they who made it governments business and all ours too..

A private matter it is and should be yet now its a matter of strong contention...


I don't think it's the Constitutional government we are referring to here, with same sex relationship and marriage. It's the Shadow government, the international bankers, and the dark forces. Its is written as we all know, in the Bible, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principality and spiritual wickeness in high places (Isaiah 14: 27-28). And I stand corrected if incorrect on the chapter number. O how thou is falling Lucifer, is part of the version of the point I'm making. In the book of Isaiah, we can identify spiritual wickeness in high places. I will ascend the Clouds, I will be like the most high. This is where the Homosexual cult operate from, in their demonic state of mental and psychological attacks and Terror. So, its not the government we are talking about, when its comes to same sex marriage, and their rights, and the destruction of the family structure and sexual orientation or relationship. Something to think about, and contemplate on this matter and issue, food for thought.

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May 6, 2019 09:57:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Divine t***h wrote:
I don't think it's the Constitutional government we are referring to here, with same sex relationship and marriage. It's the Shadow government, the international bankers, and the dark forces. Its is written as we all know, in the Bible, that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principality and spiritual wickeness in high places (Isaiah 14: 27-28). And I stand corrected if incorrect on the chapter number. O how thou is falling Lucifer, is part of the version of the point I'm making. In the book of Isaiah, we can identify spiritual wickeness in high places. I will ascend the Clouds, I will be like the most high. This is where the Homosexual cult operate from, in their demonic state of mental and psychological attacks and Terror. So, its not the government we are talking about, when its comes to same sex marriage, and their rights, and the destruction of the family structure and sexual orientation or relationship. Something to think about, and contemplate on this matter and issue, food for thought.
I don't think it's the Constitutional government w... (show quote)


Good food for thought!!

The agenda by the deep state is to demoralize our country..To make citizens a ward of governmental control as they seek to control us at all costs..I can not deny what you say here and yes, good food for thought process on the topic..

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May 6, 2019 11:26:21   #
kemmer
 
bahmer wrote:
“True Love Is” Helping People Come Out, Come Home
By Arthur Schaper - May 5, 2019

In the United States, there is growing awareness within churches as well as in the general public that homosexuality, t*********rism, and related paraphilias must be confronted fully. All the talk about seeking “religious liberty” as a point of compromise is not working. But in the church, there are few real ministries to help individuals, especially Christians, who struggle with same-sex desires. It’s scary enough to be honest with oneself about sexual feelings, intimacy, and identity. How does one “come out” to others, in the hopes of getting not just support, but t***h to be set free?

Many churches seem to vacillate among extremes: condemn the behavior; compromise by allowing individuals to identify as “gay”, but instruct the to refrain from same-sex sexual contact; celebrate the entire corrupt L**T rainbow and highlight such behaviors as normal, even exceptional.

Churches in America are not focusing on what causes these unwanted desires, either. In too many cases, there is no guidance from pastors and parishioners in properly dealing with this contentious issue. The implications of this lack are great, since church attendance is in sharp decline, much of it due to a falling away from the t***h on core issues, including marriage and sexuality. Worse yet, compromise and condemnation are both culprits in this matter. What is to be done?

One key ministry which deals effectively with these problems came from Life Site News. They reported the incredibly moving and very personal confession of a young Christian and motivational speaker, Jason Lim, aka Jason Yolt. He travels the world testifying to thousands, telling people that they can—they should strive to—live their lives to the fullest. After all, If You Only Live Twice is the title of his best-selling book.

His spirit to engage others sprang out of his near-death experience while traveling in Cambodia five years ago. That near-tragedy forced him to confront his secret shame, too, which he admits openly:

“I like … men.”
This was a long-lasting struggle, his same-sex desires, compounded by what possible outcomes would result from coming out to his parents. Thankfully, Jason’s parents responded in a gracious manner. Jason relates:

“When I came out to [my parents], they told me that even though they don’t approve of it [acting on my same-sex desires], they loved me because I was their son.”
There’s the Gospel response: “Love the sinner, h**e the sin.” In the Body of Christ, one should say “Love the saint, h**e the sin.” All our sins have been forgiven, and the sin in the flesh has been condemned. Christians still sin, but we break free when we understand that there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1-3).

This is the blessings of the Gospel which t***sforms Christians from glory to glory (2 Corinthians 3:18) Sadly, Paul’s revelation, including his exhortation to the Corinthian Church has not settled in the hearts of many believers:

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
We were sinners. Because of Jesus, we become saints, anew identity which causes us to abstain from. Christians will still fail, but we remain Christians still.

God’s love makes us sons, but a lack of revelation will lead us to lusting. John the Beloved writes:

“If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the p***e of life. (1 John 2:16)
If we do not allow “The Love of the Father” into our selves, we will continue to settle for conditional lusts. From his parents Jason Yolt received unconditional love, a love which included not condoning same-sex behaviors. This love helped him break free. This message, the core of the Gospel.

Jason’s testimony is not an isolated victory, but is connected to a larger ministry, “True Love Is”, which focuses on God’s true love, which helps to break free from same-sex desires. This ministry is accomplishing what same churches in the United States have failed to do: preaching God’s love without permitting sin.

The Gospel is about God’s grace, about God’s undeserved love, favor in our lives. We were still sinners, lost in our fallen state when God the Father sent His Son to die for us (Romans 5:8). Yet for too many Christians, they believe that following our first step into salvation, we are on our own to live upright lives in order to remain accepted by our loving Father. But David writes:

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.” (Psalm 32:2)
The main point is that the Lord does not impute sin, even when man sins; otherwise, there would be no reason to call anyone “blessed.”

There is no better example of God’s t***sformative, true love than the Parable of the Loving Father (Luke 15: 11-24). His prodigal son squandered everything, shortly after telling his father basically to drop dead by requesting his inheritance right away. When the destitute prodigal returns home, His father lavishes so much love on him, re-establishing his son’s status, which helps him break away from that old life. God’s unconditional love helps people break free of conditional pleasures, including sexual perversion. The “True Love Is” Movement rejects homosexuality and t*********rism as innate identities, but enhances our true selves as children of our Loving Father.

To help those caught in L**T bondage, it’s time to announce: Come out, so that you can come home to God’s unconditional love, for that is where True Love Is!

Arthur Christopher Schaper is a blogger, writer, and commentator on topics both timeless and timely; political, cultural, and eternal.
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Maybe some poor gay fool who wants to be straight could go to one of those "conversion camps"and have electrodes attached to his balls which jolt him when he's shown gay porn. That'll work, right?

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