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Apr 27, 2019 21:14:33   #
waltmoreno
 
SchneckenFresser wrote:
Sorry, Walt Moreno, but ya can't rewrite history. All your nasty lies about Obama's economic policies are based on conveniently forgetting the economic catastrophe of 2008, the principal cause of "..such widespread poverty and misery.." And the number of people on food stamps is a symbol of a compassionate government, not a failed president. Remember the auto industry, among many other of Barack Hussein Obama's wins. Read up on your history before you think you can peddle your basket of diversion/lies. Thinking persons know better than accepting your version of the past, slick as you are in presenting it. And your crowning declaration of, "Thank God Trump knows what he's doing!" is a real howler, when the wide world knows that Drumpfelthinskin is a vile, selfish, mendacious, bumbling failure.
Sorry, Walt Moreno, but ya can't rewrite history. ... (show quote)


Ok SchneckenFresser, ya got me! I forgot to mention Obama's "auto industry win". How could I forget his signature "cash for clunkers". Where the government promised a handout of up to $4,000 for each used car participants turned in in exchange for a newer, 'government approved', milage efficient, vehicle. Disregard for a second that the program resulted in lessening the number of available low cost vehicles available to low income buyers, or the fact that the government ended up spending $24,000 for what cost just under $17,000 on the open market. The total cost for that auto industry win was over $3 billion dollars that taxpayers had to pay. And it made nobody in the auto industry happy. Great 'auto industry' win there!
I know that for 4 years Obama's favorite way to avoid blame for the misery his policies were wreaking on America was to attribute it all to "Bush's fault". And I see you're still advancing that tired, old argument.
I also forgot to mention other Obama clean energy win with Solyndra. Where Obama lost over $500 million dollars for betting on that company after describing them as the wave of the future. But Solyndra was just one more crony in Obama's clean energy losses of over 3 billion dollars, which, again the good 'ol taxpayers were left holding the bag. Another 'clean energy win'!
And I love your statement, "The number of people on food stamps is a symbol of a compassionate government, not a failed president." Maybe one or more of the socialist democrat candidates for president will adopt that as their platform. If more people view being on food stamps as a positive, then you'll win. So yell it from the rooftops!
Calling Trump a cornucopia of negative names doesn't really advance your position. I guess it's because you can't really say anything negative about the results of his policies, so you resort to the playground tactic of name calling. Childish!

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Apr 27, 2019 21:29:56   #
Rose42
 
ACP45 wrote:
Thanks for the considered and thoughtful response.

I have been fence sitting on the Trump issue for quite some time. Is he really a brilliant 4 D chess master with a loyal following and support from those in the military and intelligence community, or just another figurehead put up by those in power behind the scene? Is he just a zig to the right after 8 years of the zag to the left, but ultimately going in the same general direction of those who really control this country? Is the concept of Q real, or just a psy-op?

At this point in time, I fear it is the latter. Consider all those advisors with whom Trump has surrounded himself, especially the most recent Pompeo, Bolton, and Haspel (neo-cons). Consider how Trump jumped the gun on the Syrian missile strike on the fictitious Syrian gas attack, and the off, on, off, on issue of troop withdrawals. Consider the economic sanctions on Venezeula, Iran, and any other country that does not march to the US's bidding. Consider Trump's stance on the Julian Assange "I don't know anything about Wikileaks" issue, the sealed indictment, extradition request, and US pressure and bribes to get Ecuador to terminate his asylum. Consider Trump's veto of the US support for the war going on in Yeman being conducted by Saudi Arabia. It may be premature, but I am concerned that we are about to go to war with Iran at the behest of both Israel and Saudi Arabia. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
Thanks for the considered and thoughtful response.... (show quote)


Speaking of psy-ops and Q, how do you know what isn’t a psy-op?

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Apr 28, 2019 16:18:17   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Rose42 wrote:
Speaking of psy-ops and Q, how do you know what isn’t a psy-op?


Simple answer Rose is that that it is very difficult to know. We don't know what is real and what is made up, spin, deception, or simply stuff the American public can't or won't be told for real, or perceived security reasons. You do your best to read, and weight the information based upon your prior knowledge, experience, and moral code.

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