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Apr 20, 2019 22:57:15   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If you consider it a betrayal...
'Twas the ultimate betrayal, lad.

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Apr 20, 2019 22:58:13   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If you consider it a betrayal...


What do you consider it?

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Apr 20, 2019 23:02:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Excellent.
Blade_Runner wrote:
You really should avoid making comments about something of which you nothing.

Today's Bible lesson.

Those who arrested Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane were Sanhedrin temple guards, not Roman soldiers. The man in question was Malchus, a servant of the high priest Caiaphas. He carried no weapons.

Malchus was gifted with a near perfect memory, he had the ability to retain much of what was said. He was the high priest's "EAR". In fact, that is what Caiaphas called him, "Malchus, you are my EAR." When Jesus entered Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, Caiaphas told him to, "go watch and listen to what this Nazarene upstart is up to." So, Malchus did. He stayed as close to Jesus as possible and listened to every word He spoke, on the street and in the temple when Jesus preached, Malchus listened.

When the temple guards, about a dozen, along with Judas Iscar**t, were dispatched to arrest Jesus, Caiaphas sent Malchus with them. The priest wanted a full report of the actions there. Judas knew where Jesus had gone and he led the guards to the Garden of Gethsemane. During the scuffle to capture Jesus, the disciple Peter drew his sword to resist. (Why would a disciple be armed?)

It was night in torch light, Peter didn't choose his target, he could just as easily have attacked one of the guards, but when he struck, he cut off the high priest's EAR. Oops!

Jesus did not stick the man's severed ear "back on good as new". He CREATED a brand new ear. None of the guards witnessed this event. But. this had a profound effect on Malchus. He remained in the garden, completely senseless. He did not follow the guards and their captive back to the temple. When he recovered enough to move, the desire to please his master had gone. He made his way to the temple courtyard to watch from a distance as the trial of Jesus began. Bewildered and ashamed, he went back to his home where he wept and pondered what had happened to him, he did not report to Caiaphas.

After Jesus was condemned, after the f**gellation, as Jesus bore the cross on the brutal climb to Golgotha, Malchus followed the crowd. When he arrived at the scene of the crucifixion and saw Jesus h*****g on the cross, His body and face mutilated and bleeding, Malchus knelt down and prayed.

Consider Simon (or Simeon) Peter, the disciple who cut off Malchus' ear. Simon Peter’s first name comes from the Hebrew, shamah, meaning “hearing.” In scripture, the name is applied to the gift of spiritual hearing.

In the region of Caesarea Phillipi, when Jesus asked His disciples, "Who do you say I am?" The replies were "John the Baptist", "Elijah", "Jeremiah", but when Peter responded, he said, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God." Peter was the first among them to see Jesus for who He really is.

I'll leave it up to you to connect the dots.

You do not simply read the Bible, you study it.

In Jesus' Holy name, Amen.
You really should avoid making comments about some... (show quote)

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Apr 20, 2019 23:19:05   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
What do you consider it?


A disciple acting upon the instructions/wishes of Jesus...

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Apr 20, 2019 23:20:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
'Twas the ultimate betrayal, lad.


And yet Jesus made no effort to inhibit/prevent it...

After witnessing the multitude of Miracles, and learning at his very feet, do you believe a man could truly have so betrayed Jesus?

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Apr 20, 2019 23:21:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You really should avoid making comments about something of which you nothing.

Today's Bible lesson.

Those who arrested Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane were Sanhedrin temple guards, not Roman soldiers. The man in question was Malchus, a servant of the high priest Caiaphas. He carried no weapons.

Malchus was gifted with a near perfect memory, he had the ability to retain much of what was said. He was the high priest's "EAR". In fact, that is what Caiaphas called him, "Malchus, you are my EAR." When Jesus entered Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, Caiaphas told him to, "go watch and listen to what this Nazarene upstart is up to." So, Malchus did. He stayed as close to Jesus as possible and listened to every word He spoke, on the street and in the temple when Jesus preached, Malchus listened.

When the temple guards, about a dozen, along with Judas Iscar**t, were dispatched to arrest Jesus, Caiaphas sent Malchus with them. The priest wanted a full report of the actions there. Judas knew where Jesus had gone and he led the guards to the Garden of Gethsemane. During the scuffle to capture Jesus, the disciple Peter drew his sword to resist. (Why would a disciple be armed?)

It was night in torch light, Peter didn't choose his target, he could just as easily have attacked one of the guards, but when he struck, he cut off the high priest's EAR. Oops!

Jesus did not stick the man's severed ear "back on good as new". He CREATED a brand new ear. None of the guards witnessed this event. But. this had a profound effect on Malchus. He remained in the garden, completely senseless. He did not follow the guards and their captive back to the temple. When he recovered enough to move, the desire to please his master had gone. He made his way to the temple courtyard to watch from a distance as the trial of Jesus began. Bewildered and ashamed, he went back to his home where he wept and pondered what had happened to him, he did not report to Caiaphas.

After Jesus was condemned, after the f**gellation, as Jesus bore the cross on the brutal climb to Golgotha, Malchus followed the crowd. When he arrived at the scene of the crucifixion and saw Jesus h*****g on the cross, His body and face mutilated and bleeding, Malchus knelt down and prayed.

Consider Simon (or Simeon) Peter, the disciple who cut off Malchus' ear. Simon Peter’s first name comes from the Hebrew, shamah, meaning “hearing.” In scripture, the name is applied to the gift of spiritual hearing.

In the region of Caesarea Phillipi, when Jesus asked His disciples, "Who do you say I am?" The replies were "John the Baptist", "Elijah", "Jeremiah", but when Peter responded, he said, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God." Peter was the first among them to see Jesus for who He really is.

I'll leave it up to you to connect the dots.

You do not simply read the Bible, you study it.

In Jesus' Holy name, Amen.
You really should avoid making comments about some... (show quote)


Thank you for this...

It is most wonderful...

An excellent read for me this Easter morning...


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Apr 20, 2019 23:35:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And yet Jesus made no effort to inhibit/prevent it...

After witnessing the multitude of Miracles, and learning at his very feet, do you believe a man could truly have so betrayed Jesus?


Yes. Judas believed Jesus originally would bring down the Roman Empire. A savior of the Jewish people physically and not so much spiritually. Apparently Judas became very distraught over Jesus’s being so passive. Also if you are a believer the betrayal is what brings Jesus eventually to do what he said he came to do.

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Apr 20, 2019 23:52:51   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And yet Jesus made no effort to inhibit/prevent it...

After witnessing the multitude of Miracles, and learning at his very feet, do you believe a man could truly have so betrayed Jesus?
Yes, considering that the betrayal of Jesus is among the nearly 400 Messianic prophesies in the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled them all.

But he was wounded for our t***sgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53: 5 (600 years before Jesus was born)

Zechariah’s Amazing Prophecy of the Betrayal of Christ

Unmasking the Betrayer

Like I said, you have to study the Bible, my friend, ya gotta dig deep.

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Apr 21, 2019 09:34:13   #
PJT
 
Remember...Satan is always at hand. It seems obvious that if Jesus performed miracles everyone around would become supporters of Jesus. But the Devil is always at hand.

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Apr 21, 2019 09:36:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes, considering that the betrayal of Jesus is among the nearly 400 Messianic prophesies in the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled them all.

But he was wounded for our t***sgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53: 5 (600 years before Jesus was born)

Zechariah’s Amazing Prophecy of the Betrayal of Christ

Unmasking the Betrayer

Like I said, you have to study the Bible, my friend, ya gotta dig deep.
Yes, considering that the betrayal of Jesus is amo... (show quote)


An excellent point my friend...

One does tend to think of the Apostles as Christian from the get go...

Yet they were Jews up until the Resurrection...

I have some rereading to do...

Love a fresh perspective

Happy Easter to you and yours...

Your friend, Kyle

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Apr 21, 2019 09:59:22   #
Richard Rowland
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
An excellent point my friend...

One does tend to think of the Apostles as Christian from the get go...

Yet they were Jews up until the Resurrection...

I have some rereading to do...

Love a fresh perspective

Happy Easter to you and yours...

Your friend, Kyle
An excellent point my friend... br br One does t... (show quote)


Can't we just believe there is a higher power, rather than all this storybook nonsense that seems to change with each telling?

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Apr 21, 2019 10:01:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Can't we just believe there is a higher power, rather than all this storybook nonsense that seems to change with each telling?


This "storybook nonsense" is us learning to have a relationship with that Higher power...

Happy Easter Richard

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Apr 21, 2019 10:03:38   #
Richard Rowland
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
This "storybook nonsense" is us learning to have a relationship with that Higher power...

Happy Easter Richard


Same to you, my friend.

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Apr 21, 2019 10:10:05   #
Morgan
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Can't we just believe there is a higher power, rather than all this storybook nonsense that seems to change with each telling?


Agreed

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Apr 21, 2019 10:19:57   #
Morgan
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes, considering that the betrayal of Jesus is among the nearly 400 Messianic prophesies in the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled them all.

But he was wounded for our t***sgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53: 5 (600 years before Jesus was born)

Zechariah’s Amazing Prophecy of the Betrayal of Christ

Unmasking the Betrayer

Like I said, you have to study the Bible, my friend, ya gotta dig deep.
Yes, considering that the betrayal of Jesus is amo... (show quote)


Interesting, but don't you find it rather coincidental that Malchus was actually considered the "EAR" (and s***e) of Caiaphas and may have also been his "right" hand man, who in the end he did lose. Is this really just an accidental chance? I think not.

Why would the Bible talk in riddles and metaphors, rather than with a direct layman's understanding for simple understanding for all?

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