Rose42 wrote:
"Are you a Christian?"
Yes...
Yes... As a follower of the teachings of Jesus I consider myself a Christian... I have told you before our definitions differ....
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"Do you believe Christ paid the penalty for our sins by incurring God’s wrath on the cross and rose on the third day?"
No...
I have explained this conundrum on another thread...
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"Is he Lord over all aspects of your life?"
I am a sinner... No...
I fall far short of my own aspirations... As such he (Christ) is not lord over all aspects of my life...
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"Do you recognize that it it only through him we are saved by grace? Not works or anything else."
No...
I have stated numerous times my belief that there are multiple paths to God... Perhaps I should allow that it is only Christianity (and not all sects) that believe that it is grace alone that saves... (Although I don't believe we need to be "saved" so.....)
If I ever answer a question in a way that you feel is ambiguous please don't hesitate to ask for clarification... I have nothing to hide...But I also believe that proselytizing (Unless requested) is a sin, and as such rarely volunteer more of my beliefs than is asked for...
As I have told you before..."No souls will be lost due to my personal understandings (Which I believe are flawed and will remain so...)..."
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have stated numerous times my belief that there are multiple paths to God... Perhaps I should allow that it is only Christianity (and not all sects) that believe that it is grace alone that saves... (Although I don't believe we need to be "saved" so.....)
You have but you offer nothing to support there are multiple paths. Your God somehow confused his message to us.
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If I ever answer a question in a way that you feel is ambiguous please don't hesitate to ask for clarification... I have nothing to hide...But I also believe that proselytizing (Unless requested) is a sin, and as such rarely volunteer more of my beliefs than is asked for...
You believe its a sin based on what? For we are commanded to.
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As I have told you before..."No souls will be lost due to my personal understandings (Which I believe are flawed and will remain so...)..."
You need assistance on basic doctrines of Christianity. By promoting false doctrine some could indeed be led astray even though thats not your intention.
Rose42 wrote:
You have but you offer nothing to support there are multiple paths. Your God somehow confused his message to us..
Are you unaware of the numerous religions and philosophies of our world?
Rose42 wrote:
You believe its a sin based on what? For we are commanded to. .
P***e...
It is p***e to offer religious teachings when they are not requested....
The belief that one is more capable than another in regards to that individual's soul is p***e of the worst sort...
Rose42 wrote:
You need assistance on basic doctrines of Christianity. By promoting false doctrine some could indeed be led astray even though thats not your intention.
If I were intetested in your version of Christianity that may be true..
I do not promote false doctrine...
I am happy to discuss various ideas and viewpoints... But have no interest in converting anyone to my way of thinking (regarding religion)... Each individual is responsible for their own understanding of God...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
P***e...
It is p***e to offer religious teachings when they are not requested....
The belief that one is more capable than another in regards to that individual's soul is p***e of the worst sort...
Sharing the t***h isn’t p***e. And we are commanded to.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If I were intetested in your version of Christianity that may be true..
I do not promote false doctrine...
It is not “my” version. Its Gods word. Your argument is with God. When you dismiss the parts of his word you don’t like for wh**ever reason and offer an alternative - that is false doctrine.
Its not logical for the bible to be inspired on the one hand yet the message be twisted on the other. And why allow so many philosophies which clash with each other? That makes no sense.
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I am happy to discuss various ideas and viewpoints... But have no interest in converting anyone to my way of thinking (regarding religion)... Each individual is responsible for their own understanding of God...
We were given the blueprint for that understanding.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Are you unaware of the numerous religions and philosophies of our world?
Lucifer is very busy trying to lead people astray. We are warned about false teachings.
Rose42 wrote:
Its not logical for the bible to be inspired on the one hand yet the message be twisted on the other. And why allow so many philosophies which clash with each other? That makes no sense.
It is logical to create an imperfect construct (humans) Then expect perfection from them...
Different cultures and societies having different views of God makes perfect sense...
People don't need God to find reasons to clash...
Rose42 wrote:
It is not “my” version. Its Gods word. Your argument is with God. When you dismiss the parts of his word you don’t like for wh**ever reason and offer an alternative - that is false doctrine..
I have no argument with God...
Only with my fellow brothers...
This argument of yours(it's God's word) grows tiresome... Obviously we have a different understanding of what constitutes God's word.
Rose42 wrote:
Sharing the t***h isn’t p***e. And we are commanded to.
You are commanded to do it...
I am not...
If your version were the only version then the world would happily embrace "t***h"...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
It is logical to create an imperfect construct (humans) Then expect perfection from them...
Different cultures and societies having different views of God makes perfect sense...
People don't need God to find reasons to clash...
It makes sense in light of man’s tendency to reject God’s t***h. It is p***e that makes man think he has no need to be saved.
Rose42 wrote:
It makes sense in light of man’s tendency to reject God’s t***h. It is p***e that makes man think he has no need to be saved.
I think you missed my point...
Truce?
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