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Apr 20, 2019 09:51:52   #
Kevyn
 
Ray Smith wrote:
I did not say the that the law was a pealed, it is still the law and no one in Washington follows it! My message was intended to show who in congress enacted this law, and why is it not followed by our leaders in DC!
My intent also was to point out that the i***t Joe Biden, who is going to run for President, This noose is h*****g around his neck, and why would we want a president who would ignore this law, if he would win the highest office in the land?

Sincerely, Ray P. Smith, Sr


The law you state in NO WAY mentions Muslims or precludes them from serving in office. You are either lying about its content or have been tricked into forwarding an erroneous summary of i*********n l*w without actually reading the law. Which is it?

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Apr 20, 2019 10:09:38   #
promilitary
 
eden wrote:
On that basis you could say that Catholics have no business in this country much less in our government because of the worldwide epidemic of sexual abuse perpetrated by Catholic clergy. Clearly these people (Catholics) can’t be trusted and are all closet p*******es.


You just threw 1.2 billion Catholics under the bus for the crimes of the priests.
Nice going dope.

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Apr 20, 2019 10:50:24   #
JoyV
 
eden wrote:
On that basis you could say that Catholics have no business in this country much less in our government because of the worldwide epidemic of sexual abuse perpetrated by Catholic clergy. Clearly these people (Catholics) can’t be trusted and are all closet p*******es.


P********a is not written into the Catholic holy book as a tenet of their religion. That there has been abusers and the Catholic church covered for them is reprehensible. But it is not a part of the their religion to be a p*******e and not taught that it is what their god wants.

I am not a Christian and see fault. But The problems I've seen in Christianity don't hold a candle to the tenets of Islam!!!! Your comparison falls flat.

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Apr 20, 2019 11:16:01   #
Icthelite
 
What bothers me about the last two sworn into our Legislative branch is them taking the oath of office using their religious book. The Quran. The Quran's teachings are completely at odds with our Constitution. One thing most folks don't know about the Muslim's, their leader and the teaching of the Quran is that lying is acceptable and heavily advocated if it will advance the teaching of their cult religion and the advancement of their goal. That is to destroy the "Great Satan" which another name they use for the USA.

http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml

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Apr 20, 2019 11:18:00   #
Carlos
 
Better that than k*****g babies the way democrats do. You people are murderers, also aren't you democrats
All for gay rights and all that stuff? Muslims seem to be like democrats, they sort of sneak in with phoney
Babbling. Let enough Muslims in and soon you'll have sharia law, you'd be the first to scream for help
And want to change the laws. Even being devious dems are t***sparent. But better to have a gay in the house than a murderer of little kids.






What fools these mortals be.

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Apr 20, 2019 12:07:23   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
P********a is not written into the Catholic holy book as a tenet of their religion. That there has been abusers and the Catholic church covered for them is reprehensible. But it is not a part of the their religion to be a p*******e and not taught that it is what their god wants.

I am not a Christian and see fault. But The problems I've seen in Christianity don't hold a candle to the tenets of Islam!!!! Your comparison falls flat.



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Apr 20, 2019 12:08:28   #
debeda
 
Carlos wrote:
Better that than k*****g babies the way democrats do. You people are murderers, also aren't you democrats
All for gay rights and all that stuff? Muslims seem to be like democrats, they sort of sneak in with phoney
Babbling. Let enough Muslims in and soon you'll have sharia law, you'd be the first to scream for help
And want to change the laws. Even being devious dems are t***sparent. But better to have a gay in the house than a murderer of little kids.






What fools these mortals be.
Better that than k*****g babies the way democrats ... (show quote)


Love your last sentence!! We are indeed fools sometimes

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Apr 20, 2019 12:14:16   #
Ray Smith
 
I do not lie, and take this anyway you like the law is there if you want to read it!

Ray

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Apr 20, 2019 12:25:01   #
JoyV
 
redpill wrote:
I've just spent about 3 hours trying to find out about this repeal. I could not. Can you give references please.

It appears that the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952 is alive and well.
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=1994&req=granuleid%3AUSC-1994-title8-front&num=0&saved=%7CZ3JhbnVsZWlkOlVTQy0xOTk0LXRpdGxlOC1zZWN0aW9uMTQyNA%3D%3D%7C%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7C1994

I could not find any reference to Muslims in it. There are direct bans on Japanese, Chinese, and Filipinos. There are direct references to Cuba, Hawaii, Alaska, etc. And there is plenty of anti-C*******m and anti-authoritarian verbiage. This could be construed to include Islamic ideologies to some degree.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/islam-banned-u-s-1952/

The Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 amended the 1952 act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

Again no reference to "Muslims" being banned in any fashion until Trump's Executive Order 13769. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769


However, I totally agree that v****g in a Muslim is a highly risky business for the country. We have no idea what her allegiances are. But if she is of one of the sects that use lying to obtain their goal of world domination, then she is very dangerous and a t*****r.
I've just spent about 3 hours trying to find out a... (show quote)


While I find no constitutional prohibition on Muslims or Islam, there is a constitutional basis for prohibiting Sharia law or Dawa. This is the Establishment Clause. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". In other words, not only can the government not prohibit any religion (2nd part), but the government cannot force any religions laws on the populace either as a whole OR individually (1st part). So when someone breaks a law, they cannot claim their religion allows or commands them to do so.

The Qur'an has many passages which are not only incompatible with our constitution, but which present a very real danger to Americans from any fundamental followers of Islam. Here are a few.

"Fight and slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war. But if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (Q 9:5)

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of t***h, even if they are of the people of the Book [meaning Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [taxes on non-Muslims] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Q 9:29)

And slay them wherever ye catch them. (Q 2:191)

It is not only radicals and extremist followers of Islam who are a threat. Their religious book, the Qur'an, clearly requires they convert or k**l all unbelievers. Those who are not jihadist still embrace what is often referred to as "dawa" (the "call to Islam"), which includes sharia law. Shariah rejects fundamental premises of American society and values. These include:

*the bedrock proposition that the governed have a right to make law for themselves;

*the democratic republic governed by the Constitution;

*freedom of conscience; individual liberty

*freedom of expression (including the liberty to analyze and criticize shariah);

*economic liberty (including private property);

*equal treatment under the law (including that of men and women, and of Muslims and non-Muslims);

*freedom from cruel and unusual punishments; an unequivocal condemnation of terrorism (i.e., one that is based on a common sense meaning of the term and does not rationalize barbarity as legitimate "resistance"); and

*an abiding commitment to deflate and resolve political controversies by the ordinary mechanisms of our democratic republic, not wanton violence. The subversion campaign known as "civilization jihad" must not be confused with, or tolerated as, a constitutionally protected form of religious practice. Its ambitions transcend what American law recognizes as the sacrosanct realm of private conscience and belief. It seeks to supplant our Constitution with its own totalitarian framework.

Then there is the practice of rape against unbelievers being condoned. The Qur'an allows rape of "s***e"women. And a s***e woman is defined as a woman who is an unbeliever. The way to know whether a woman is a s***e woman or not is whether or not her body is covered.

John Quincy Adams was very cognizant of the threat Islam posed to our country. He wrote a 136-page series of essays on Islam which displayed a clear understanding of the threat facing America then 00- and now, especially from the permanent Islamic institutions of jihad and dhimmitude (the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.). Regarding these two topics, John Quincy Adams states:

"...[Mohammed] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.... The precept of the Quran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that [Mohammed] is the prophet of God.

"The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute. As the essential principle of [Mohammed's] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.

"The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.

"This appeal to the natural hatred of the Mussulmen towards the infidels is in just accordance with the precepts of the Quran. The document [the Quran] does not attempt to disguise it, nor even pretend that the enmity of those whom it styles the infidels, is any other than the necessary consequence of the hatred borne by the Mussulmen to them - the paragraph itself, is a forcible example of the contrasted character of the two religions.

"The fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion is the extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of Christians, which denies or misunderstands this doctrine. All understand it alike - all acknowledge its obligations; and however imperfectly, in the purposes of Divine Providence, its efficacy has been shown in the practice of Christians, it has not been wholly inoperative upon them. Its effect has been upon the manners of nations. It has mitigated the horrors of war - it has softened the features of s***ery - it has humanized the intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of Christians. Yet they cannot indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human race. The Ottoman lays it down as the foundation of his discourse."

Now there are passages in the Christian's and Jew's religious books which also condone or call for violence. But these are not followed in modern times. For Christians, these passages are in what they call the Old Testament and are superseded by the teachings of Jesus in their New Testament. I have not seen any Christian stonings for instance.

So while our constitution does not forbid Islam, nor Muslims from serving in office; they cannot hold their oath of office AND their religious tenets without one or the other being a lie!!!! I would be willing to lay a large bet on which one is the lie!

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Apr 20, 2019 13:11:41   #
ExperienceCounts
 
America 1 wrote:
Sexual abuse not quite the same as death to all infidels, death to America, death to Isreal.


And most v****g Catholics are not priests.

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Apr 20, 2019 14:40:25   #
bahmer
 
JoyV wrote:
While I find no constitutional prohibition on Muslims or Islam, there is a constitutional basis for prohibiting Sharia law or Dawa. This is the Establishment Clause. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". In other words, not only can the government not prohibit any religion (2nd part), but the government cannot force any religions laws on the populace either as a whole OR individually (1st part). So when someone breaks a law, they cannot claim their religion allows or commands them to do so.

The Qur'an has many passages which are not only incompatible with our constitution, but which present a very real danger to Americans from any fundamental followers of Islam. Here are a few.

"Fight and slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war. But if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (Q 9:5)

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of t***h, even if they are of the people of the Book [meaning Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [taxes on non-Muslims] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Q 9:29)

And slay them wherever ye catch them. (Q 2:191)

It is not only radicals and extremist followers of Islam who are a threat. Their religious book, the Qur'an, clearly requires they convert or k**l all unbelievers. Those who are not jihadist still embrace what is often referred to as "dawa" (the "call to Islam"), which includes sharia law. Shariah rejects fundamental premises of American society and values. These include:

*the bedrock proposition that the governed have a right to make law for themselves;

*the democratic republic governed by the Constitution;

*freedom of conscience; individual liberty

*freedom of expression (including the liberty to analyze and criticize shariah);

*economic liberty (including private property);

*equal treatment under the law (including that of men and women, and of Muslims and non-Muslims);

*freedom from cruel and unusual punishments; an unequivocal condemnation of terrorism (i.e., one that is based on a common sense meaning of the term and does not rationalize barbarity as legitimate "resistance"); and

*an abiding commitment to deflate and resolve political controversies by the ordinary mechanisms of our democratic republic, not wanton violence. The subversion campaign known as "civilization jihad" must not be confused with, or tolerated as, a constitutionally protected form of religious practice. Its ambitions transcend what American law recognizes as the sacrosanct realm of private conscience and belief. It seeks to supplant our Constitution with its own totalitarian framework.

Then there is the practice of rape against unbelievers being condoned. The Qur'an allows rape of "s***e"women. And a s***e woman is defined as a woman who is an unbeliever. The way to know whether a woman is a s***e woman or not is whether or not her body is covered.

John Quincy Adams was very cognizant of the threat Islam posed to our country. He wrote a 136-page series of essays on Islam which displayed a clear understanding of the threat facing America then 00- and now, especially from the permanent Islamic institutions of jihad and dhimmitude (the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.). Regarding these two topics, John Quincy Adams states:

"...[Mohammed] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.... The precept of the Quran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that [Mohammed] is the prophet of God.

"The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute. As the essential principle of [Mohammed's] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.

"The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.

"This appeal to the natural hatred of the Mussulmen towards the infidels is in just accordance with the precepts of the Quran. The document [the Quran] does not attempt to disguise it, nor even pretend that the enmity of those whom it styles the infidels, is any other than the necessary consequence of the hatred borne by the Mussulmen to them - the paragraph itself, is a forcible example of the contrasted character of the two religions.

"The fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion is the extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of Christians, which denies or misunderstands this doctrine. All understand it alike - all acknowledge its obligations; and however imperfectly, in the purposes of Divine Providence, its efficacy has been shown in the practice of Christians, it has not been wholly inoperative upon them. Its effect has been upon the manners of nations. It has mitigated the horrors of war - it has softened the features of s***ery - it has humanized the intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of Christians. Yet they cannot indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human race. The Ottoman lays it down as the foundation of his discourse."

Now there are passages in the Christian's and Jew's religious books which also condone or call for violence. But these are not followed in modern times. For Christians, these passages are in what they call the Old Testament and are superseded by the teachings of Jesus in their New Testament. I have not seen any Christian stonings for instance.

So while our constitution does not forbid Islam, nor Muslims from serving in office; they cannot hold their oath of office AND their religious tenets without one or the other being a lie!!!! I would be willing to lay a large bet on which one is the lie!
While I find no constitutional prohibition on Musl... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Apr 20, 2019 14:47:47   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
On that basis you could say that Catholics have no business in this country much less in our government because of the worldwide epidemic of sexual abuse perpetrated by Catholic clergy. Clearly these people (Catholics) can’t be trusted and are all closet p*******es.


How about that warlord and dirty old man Mohammed, whose chief wife, Aiesha, was only what? Nine years old when the p*******e married her? What kind of precedent would you suppose that might have set for "the Faithful?"

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Apr 20, 2019 15:05:31   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
The law you state in NO WAY mentions Muslims or precludes them from serving in office. You are either lying about its content or have been tricked into forwarding an erroneous summary of i*********n l*w without actually reading the law. Which is it?



Sadly
Did the 101st Congress on November 18, 1990 quietly repeal the "McCarran Warner Act of 1952" forbidding muslims from holding office? No, that's not true for the simple reason that there never was such an act. Also, forbidding muslims from holding office would go against Article VI, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution which reads (in part): "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"

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Apr 20, 2019 15:07:43   #
johnsorrell7
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Just a teensy, weensy bit bigoted, aren’t you?


AND STUPID.....

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Apr 20, 2019 15:27:31   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Ray Smith wrote:
On November 18, 1990 the 101st Congress Quietly repealed the McCarran Warner Act of 1952 forbidding Muslims from holding office; members of that congress were Dick Cheney, John McCain, Joe Biden, Al Gore, John Kerry, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Shumer, Nancy Pelosi..... see the Agenda! Did this rule get swept under the rug in the last e******n?

Why did we allow the last "Muslim" to get v**ed into office? Something is rotten in Denmark, which has allowed the event to occur! Or did they reverse the McCarran Warner Act of 1952? If the 101st congress committed and acted to the reversal of this Act, why isn't the news talking about this, particularly In good old Joe Biden who will announce soon he is running for president, I believe Americans would like to know the answer to this question,I for one, would like to know?
Sincerely, Ray P. Smith, Sr.
On November 18, 1990 the 101st Congress Quietly re... (show quote)


As was said, welcome Ray. The media tell us if McCarran WarnerAct was repealed or anything putting them in a bad light? Hang on, it only gets worse. They never told you about most of Trump's successes either. Yes something is rotten, the whole party. Perhaps we should start a petition since I don't think McCarran Walter was repealed or replaced to get the muzzies out. According to the koran, they can't have an allegiance to anyone but Islam and must h**e America. The constitution says just the opposite for politicians.

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