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Apr 4, 2019 17:09:39   #
woodguru
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
You don't think Schiff will leak ANYTHING he can to CNN, MSNBC and other msms? Judging by the past you can bet your life he will. Remember, they don't need cold hard facts, just a piece then spin it. Russian dressing-a Russian operative. That kind of thing.


In which all the GOP needs to do is release the facts if they have a left spin. We know they don't or they would already be released.

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Apr 4, 2019 17:12:56   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
For once why don't you admit the t***h. You do not want t***h, t***sparency, or the people's right to know. You and the other Democrats just hope to keep digging everywhere you can think of in hopes of finding something, anything you can use in your desire of getting Trump.


Now that's quite the spin there, I want the t***h, and that would be a full release of the investigation...

meanwhile those calling themselves patriots and being all about the rule of law support hiding a report that you know is damaging to the president.

The rule of law would be about Trump being held accountable

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Apr 4, 2019 17:24:17   #
woodguru
 
ACP45 wrote:
Wood,
From your link on the Hill:
"Barr wrote in a four-page letter to Congress that Mueller did not find that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the country's e******n i**********e efforts in 2016 and stated that the special counsel's team did not reach a conclusion “one way or the other” about whether Trump’s behavior amounted to obstruction of justice."

If he was unable to reach a conclusion that Trump's behavior amounted to obstruction of justice, and could not make a case to support that, then what is the problem? Keep in mind that Mueller's prosecutors were all anti-Trumpers and active supporters of HRC.

Innocent unless proven guilty. End of story.
Wood, br From your link on the Hill: br "Barr... (show quote)


He was unable to reach a conclusion because that is not up to the DOJ since they can't prosecute a sitting president.

Proof is proof, and the more there is the better it's corroborated, we need to see it so that the endless circular arguments between the right and left can stop.

You conveniently miss the part where even Barr states that there are troubling things, and congress will look at it with an eye toward does it meet the bar toward impeachment needing to be done before the resulting prosecution. Barr can't recommend prosecution because he doesn't believe a sitting president should be.

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Apr 4, 2019 17:24:43   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Now that's quite the spin there, I want the t***h, and that would be a full release of the investigation...

meanwhile those calling themselves patriots and being all about the rule of law support hiding a report that you know is damaging to the president.

The rule of law would be about Trump being held accountable


You will get the t***h soon enough minus Grand Jury which is NOT going to be in report!!!

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Apr 4, 2019 18:13:10   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
You will get the t***h soon enough minus Grand Jury which is NOT going to be in report!!!


If Barr had his way, which is looking very shaky at this point, minus several other things as well, particularly the absence of anything damaging to a person who is not going to be charged with anything. That left a hole you could drive a truck through.

We have been covering how easily the grand jury part can be negated, by simply asking the judge and making a case for the necessity of the information. Barr can do it if he wants to, congress can do it.

You forget who Barr works for, and it is not the president. He represents this country, the constitution, and the people of this country, and that includes the ones that do not support this president. Barr actually represents justice and holding the president accountable if evidence shows "troubling things" as he has already said Mueller's report did. It is not Barr's place to decide whether to prosecute since the DOJ takes the position that a sitting president can't be.

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Apr 5, 2019 05:25:26   #
badbob85037
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)


Well of course they will leak more BS. What else would you expect from a bunch of Trump hating sub-humans . That's all they got left. But sorry. It's Trump's turn.

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Apr 5, 2019 05:32:11   #
badbob85037
 
woodguru wrote:
If Barr had his way, which is looking very shaky at this point, minus several other things as well, particularly the absence of anything damaging to a person who is not going to be charged with anything. That left a hole you could drive a truck through.

We have been covering how easily the grand jury part can be negated, by simply asking the judge and making a case for the necessity of the information. Barr can do it if he wants to, congress can do it.

You forget who Barr works for, and it is not the president. He represents this country, the constitution, and the people of this country, and that includes the ones that do not support this president. Barr actually represents justice and holding the president accountable if evidence shows "troubling things" as he has already said Mueller's report did. It is not Barr's place to decide whether to prosecute since the DOJ takes the position that a sitting president can't be.
If Barr had his way, which is looking very shaky a... (show quote)


You don't support this president?! That sounds a little treasonous. After all you supported Obama and he didn't seem to know the difference between the Constitution and the C*******t Manifesto. Why don't you trust Trump at least till he violates the Constitution?

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Apr 5, 2019 06:06:24   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
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Did you mean Bengal? They are seriously beautiful, look just like a miniature tiger, as does yours. I would love to find one for myself!

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Apr 5, 2019 06:12:44   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
He was unable to reach a conclusion because that is not up to the DOJ since they can't prosecute a sitting president.

Proof is proof, and the more there is the better it's corroborated, we need to see it so that the endless circular arguments between the right and left can stop.

You conveniently miss the part where even Barr states that there are troubling things, and congress will look at it with an eye toward does it meet the bar toward impeachment needing to be done before the resulting prosecution. Barr can't recommend prosecution because he doesn't believe a sitting president should be.
He was unable to reach a conclusion because that i... (show quote)


Whether or not the DOJ can begin proceedings against a sitting president has never been decided definitively. Barr states there are "troubling" things in Mueller's tome, and individuals from both Barr's office and Mueller's have written memos to the effect that Barr's 4-page summary report avoids many serious situations that should have been included. Time will tell.

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Apr 5, 2019 07:21:34   #
PJT
 
The Dems will not give up trying to destroy Trump with lies and innuendo. They and their media buddies have mastered Goebbels propaganda tactics. The GOP seems not to have a clue how to counteract any of this, not the will to stand united.
I fear for the future of our country. The left has already captured the college generation and much of the lower education.

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Apr 5, 2019 09:58:55   #
TrueAmerican
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)


First of Mueller DOES NOT HAVE a department, he's got a circle jerk of l*****t liberal demonRATS !!!!!!

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Apr 5, 2019 11:08:42   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
woodguru wrote:
So you think we should be in the dark and have to take the word of partisan hacks? Nothing ends the debate the way releasing information to the public will. If Trump or his people had ties to Russia so be it, if he obstructed let him be gone.

Barr in his little memo said there was troubling information, and things the public didn't know about. It is not up to Barr who is an admitted obstructionist who believes the president cannot be prosecuted or interfered with during his term to decide what Trump is or isn't held accountable for.

The public should be getting the straight t***h, not some partisan rhetoric and BS.

If you are the party of the rule of law and the constitution you will want the president to answer to wh**ever the Mueller investigation found.
So you think we should be in the dark and have to ... (show quote)

no but we shouldnt try to push for early release till its ready

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Apr 5, 2019 13:42:01   #
Radiance3
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily redacted. Spokeswoman Kerri Kupec released a statement Thursday morning, saying the Justice Department was concerned about illegally releasing grand jury information, which is confidential.

"Every page of the 'confidential report' provided to Attorney General Barr on March 22, 2019 was marked 'May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P.6(e)' — a law that protects confidential grand jury information — and therefore could not be publicly released," she wrote.
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily ... (show quote)


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It is illegal to release classified information that will imperil the security of our country and people.
The radical DEMS want DOJ Barr to violate the law. The radical DEMS wanted to be the grand jury to render their own verdict. They are above the law.

The law has spoken and NO Trump collusion with Russia was found. NO obstruction of justice was found.

By the way, Comey was removed from the FBI with recommendation of Rosenstein. He deserved to be removed as a result of exonerating Hillary's massive crimes committed. DOJ Lynch was part of that.
Then they initiated investigation of his removal, Comey leaked to a friend at the NYT, which started the Mueller investigation. Hired Mueller their buddy and friend to investigate. Comey is a t*****r -friend of Hillary criminal Clinton. For 22 months and 7 days, with $40 million expended, Mueller never found any collusion/obstruction of president Trump.

Facts: It was Bill and Hillary who colluded with Russia with the blessings of Bama.
Bill got the $500 million speaking fee for 20 minutes. Hillary got the $145 million for the 20% Uranium One sale to Russia. Her Foundation got the $145 million. Both of them had spoken to Vlad Putin.
They all must be investigated, and justice must be rendered. They are treasonous.

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Apr 5, 2019 14:03:51   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)



I disagree... the easiest fix is to just seal the documents like Fox did for Jesse Smollett.( I agree with Chris Rock, he gets no respect from me).

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Apr 5, 2019 17:03:50   #
woodguru
 
PJT wrote:
The Dems will not give up trying to destroy Trump with lies and innuendo. They and their media buddies have mastered Goebbels propaganda tactics. The GOP seems not to have a clue how to counteract any of this, not the will to stand united.
I fear for the future of our country. The left has already captured the college generation and much of the lower education.


They don't have to use lies and innuendo when facts and the t***h are the reality... and how do you fend off lies and innuendo when they are in play? By releasing the facts, it's called t***sparency, unless of course the facts prove guilt, then you hide them.

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