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Message Sent...Mueller's Department Can And Will Leak If Barr Tries To Withhold Dirt
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Apr 4, 2019 13:50:51   #
woodguru
 
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting

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Apr 4, 2019 14:07:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)


Here is why you will see a report that is heavily redacted. Spokeswoman Kerri Kupec released a statement Thursday morning, saying the Justice Department was concerned about illegally releasing grand jury information, which is confidential.

"Every page of the 'confidential report' provided to Attorney General Barr on March 22, 2019 was marked 'May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P.6(e)' — a law that protects confidential grand jury information — and therefore could not be publicly released," she wrote.

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Apr 4, 2019 14:20:58   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily redacted. Spokeswoman Kerri Kupec released a statement Thursday morning, saying the Justice Department was concerned about illegally releasing grand jury information, which is confidential.

"Every page of the 'confidential report' provided to Attorney General Barr on March 22, 2019 was marked 'May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P.6(e)' — a law that protects confidential grand jury information — and therefore could not be publicly released," she wrote.
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily ... (show quote)


I was watching several commentaries about the precedent involved with releasing that grand jury hold...

...and no, there is a huge difference between may and does. Barr, if he were interested in t***sparency (which he clearly is not) could have that lifted. Also the members of congress intelligence committees are cleared for top secret information, and dems do one heck of a lot better job respecting that than the GOP does. If they see something that falls under grand jury rules they can easily have it lifted if they see something they need as evidence for actions needed.

And you want to know something else, these reports were prepared in a sanitized version that could be easily given to congress if not to the public later... as will be coming out.

Barr is in obstruction quicksand, and he is going to be forced to refuse to have Trump's back the way Trump wants.

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Apr 4, 2019 14:22:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
woodguru wrote:
I was watching several commentaries about the precedent involved with releasing that grand jury hold...

...and no, there is a huge difference between may and does. Barr, if he were interested in t***sparency (which he clearly is not) could have that lifted. Also the members of congress intelligence committees are cleared for top secret information, and dems do one heck of a lot better job respecting that than the GOP does. If they see something that falls under grand jury rules they can easily have it lifted if they see something they need as evidence for actions needed.

And you want to know something else, these reports were prepared in a sanitized version that could be easily given to congress if not to the public later... as will be coming out.

Barr is in obstruction quicksand, and he is going to be forced to refuse to have Trump's back the way Trump wants.
I was watching several commentaries about the prec... (show quote)


Like my Poppa would say.... just because something can be done, does not mean it should.

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Apr 4, 2019 14:38:14   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Speaking Of Precedence

Hasn't Hillary Set One For Subpoenaed Evidence ??

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Apr 4, 2019 14:52:45   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Like my Poppa would say.... just because something can be done, does not mean it should.


So you think we should be in the dark and have to take the word of partisan hacks? Nothing ends the debate the way releasing information to the public will. If Trump or his people had ties to Russia so be it, if he obstructed let him be gone.

Barr in his little memo said there was troubling information, and things the public didn't know about. It is not up to Barr who is an admitted obstructionist who believes the president cannot be prosecuted or interfered with during his term to decide what Trump is or isn't held accountable for.

The public should be getting the straight t***h, not some partisan rhetoric and BS.

If you are the party of the rule of law and the constitution you will want the president to answer to wh**ever the Mueller investigation found.

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Apr 4, 2019 14:54:17   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily redacted. Spokeswoman Kerri Kupec released a statement Thursday morning, saying the Justice Department was concerned about illegally releasing grand jury information, which is confidential.

"Every page of the 'confidential report' provided to Attorney General Barr on March 22, 2019 was marked 'May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P.6(e)' — a law that protects confidential grand jury information — and therefore could not be publicly released," she wrote.
Here is why you will see a report that is heavily ... (show quote)


That is a seriously pretty cat Pennylynn...

I've got a very pretty Mau and a Russian Blue that is very striking, but not like that

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Apr 4, 2019 15:30:47   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
You don't think Schiff will leak ANYTHING he can to CNN, MSNBC and other msms? Judging by the past you can bet your life he will. Remember, they don't need cold hard facts, just a piece then spin it. Russian dressing-a Russian operative. That kind of thing.

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Apr 4, 2019 15:36:05   #
Carol Kelly
 
woodguru wrote:
I was watching several commentaries about the precedent involved with releasing that grand jury hold...

...and no, there is a huge difference between may and does. Barr, if he were interested in t***sparency (which he clearly is not) could have that lifted. Also the members of congress intelligence committees are cleared for top secret information, and dems do one heck of a lot better job respecting that than the GOP does. If they see something that falls under grand jury rules they can easily have it lifted if they see something they need as evidence for actions needed.

And you want to know something else, these reports were prepared in a sanitized version that could be easily given to congress if not to the public later... as will be coming out.

Barr is in obstruction quicksand, and he is going to be forced to refuse to have Trump's back the way Trump wants.
I was watching several commentaries about the prec... (show quote)


You don’t know anymore about Barr than we do and that is that he and Mueller are good friends. Info covered under the law cannot be released even to dangerous Democrats like Nadler, Schiff and Swalwell, et al.

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Apr 4, 2019 15:36:18   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/

...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)


For once why don't you admit the t***h. You do not want t***h, t***sparency, or the people's right to know. You and the other Democrats just hope to keep digging everywhere you can think of in hopes of finding something, anything you can use in your desire of getting Trump.

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Apr 4, 2019 15:38:25   #
Carol Kelly
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
You don't think Schiff will leak ANYTHING he can to CNN, MSNBC and other msms? Judging by the past you can bet your life he will. Remember, they don't need cold hard facts, just a piece then spin it. Russian dressing-a Russian operative. That kind of thing.


DITTO.

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Apr 4, 2019 15:47:00   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
woodguru wrote:
That is a seriously pretty cat Pennylynn...

I've got a very pretty Mau and a Russian Blue that is very striking, but not like that


Thank you, he is a bangle mix.... mixed with what, I have no idea. He is very friendly and bright. The bangle does not shed a lot so they are ideal for allergy suffers. I love the Mau and Russian Blues..... great personalities and high energy. You are blessed to have them.

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Apr 4, 2019 15:53:04   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
You don't think Schiff will leak ANYTHING he can to CNN, MSNBC and other msms? Judging by the past you can bet your life he will. Remember, they don't need cold hard facts, just a piece then spin it. Russian dressing-a Russian operative. That kind of thing.



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Apr 4, 2019 16:01:51   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
I was watching several commentaries about the precedent involved with releasing that grand jury hold...

...and no, there is a huge difference between may and does. Barr, if he were interested in t***sparency (which he clearly is not) could have that lifted. Also the members of congress intelligence committees are cleared for top secret information, and dems do one heck of a lot better job respecting that than the GOP does. If they see something that falls under grand jury rules they can easily have it lifted if they see something they need as evidence for actions needed.

And you want to know something else, these reports were prepared in a sanitized version that could be easily given to congress if not to the public later... as will be coming out.

Barr is in obstruction quicksand, and he is going to be forced to refuse to have Trump's back the way Trump wants.
I was watching several commentaries about the prec... (show quote)


How about if he releases documents as heavily redacted as those which "prove" Hillary's innocence?





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Apr 4, 2019 16:07:23   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out that Barr did not accurately reflect the message the report intends to portray... no harm no foul. It's a message to Barr, try to pull partisan obfuscation and you will get burned. Hey... the easiest way to fix this if these people are lying is to simply let the report out.

The only thing that's worse than simply releasing the full report to congress and then deciding what if anything needs to be redacted to the public is to fight it and lose and then have seriously damaging information come out.

Here's something Barr said in his mini press release that should trouble those who have the ability to pay attention to facts and what they mean... he said that there were difficult and troubling information including new revelations the public had not heard, but that they didn't rise to the level of prosecution. Now keep in mind that Barr is running on the concept that the DOJ cannot prosecute a sitting president, so nothing including smoking guns qualifies for him to state that there is anything that indictments can be brought on. I'm sure it was his intent to then keep that information from congress.

According to Wednesday's breaking Mueller "leaks", several individual reports were written on separate issues by department personnel that qualify as troubling and needing to be made public. All personnel including Mueller can be questioned by house investigations, and they are fully capable of telling heads of house committees what they need to ask to get this information into play.

The GOP has a dilemma, get it out sooner rather than later, or fight this going into the e******n and be seen as trying to obstruct this when it does get out, whether it leaks or court battles over congress and people's right to have information.

https://dmlnews.com/report-justice-department-addresses-reports-mueller-team-unhappy-barrs-letter/


============
...and is this how an innocent man acts?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437356-trump-lashes-out-at-new-york-times-for-mueller-reporting
Hey, they didn't leak details, just pointed out th... (show quote)


Wood,
From your link on the Hill:
"Barr wrote in a four-page letter to Congress that Mueller did not find that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the country's e******n i**********e efforts in 2016 and stated that the special counsel's team did not reach a conclusion “one way or the other” about whether Trump’s behavior amounted to obstruction of justice."

If he was unable to reach a conclusion that Trump's behavior amounted to obstruction of justice, and could not make a case to support that, then what is the problem? Keep in mind that Mueller's prosecutors were all anti-Trumpers and active supporters of HRC.

Innocent unless proven guilty. End of story.

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