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Science and God
By Dr. Jerry Newcombe - March 31, 2019

An award-winning scientist recently told the world that science and religion are not incompatible.

The Agence France-Presse (AFP) reports (3/19/19):

“The annual Templeton Prize, which recognizes outstanding contributions to ‘affirming life’s spiritual dimension,’ was awarded Tuesday to Brazilian Marcelo Gleiser—a theoretical physicist dedicated to demonstrating science and religion are not enemies.”
Gleiser, a professor at Dartmouth College since 1991, said:

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“Science does not k**l God.”

Although he is described as an agnostic, the AFP reports that Gleiser:

“refuses to write off the possibility of God’s existence completely.”
He said:

“Atheism is inconsistent with the scientific method…Atheism is a belief in non-belief. So you categorically deny something you have no evidence against…I’ll keep an open mind because I understand that human knowledge is limited.”
I agree with this man’s sentiments. How is it that science and God are somehow viewed as enemies?

The great British jurist, Sir William B****stone, whose four-volume set of Commentaries on the Laws of England were of great value to our founding fathers, put it this way:

“Thus, when the Supreme Being formed the universe, and created matter out of nothing, He impressed certain principles upon that matter, from which it can never depart, and without which it would cease to be. When He put that matter into motion, He established certain laws of motion, to which all moveable bodies must conform.”
I think it is fascinating that virtually all the early scientists historically were professing Christians. They were, in the words of Johannes Kepler, “thinking God’s thoughts after Him” in their scientific explorations. Modern science arose near the end of the medieval period. The early scientists believed that a rational God had made a rational universe, and it was their job—using the words of Kepler, “as priests of the highest God”—to try and catalogue what laws of the universe He had created.

Consider some of the thoughts of scientists who were Christians through the ages.

Blaise Pascal was a brilliant mathematician in 17th century France. He is credited with discovering principles that would ultimately lead to the creation of the computer.

Pascal said:

“Faith tells us what senses cannot, but it is not contrary to their findings. It simply transcends, without contradicting them.”
Pascal also said:

“Jesus Christ is the only proof of the living God. We only know God through Jesus Christ.”
Isaac Newton, the discoverer of gravity and one of the greatest scientists who ever lived, wrote more about the Bible and about Christian theology than he did science. Said the great Newton:

“I have a foundational belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily.”

The father of modern chemistry was Oxford professor Robert Boyle, born in 1627. Boyle was not only a diligent student of chemistry, but a diligent student of the Bible. In his will he left a large sum of money to found the “Boyle lectures” for proving the Christian religion.

19th century American Matthew Fontaine Maury is credited as the father of oceanography. He got his idea that the sea has “lanes” and currents from a verse in the Bible. Psalm 8:8 speaks of:

“the fish of the sea that pass through the paths of the seas.”
One time Maury gave a speech at the inauguration for a college in which he said:

“I have been blamed by men of science, both in this country and in England, for quoting the Bible in confirmation of the doctrines of physical geography. The Bible, they say, was not written for scientific purposes, and is therefore of no authority in matters of science. I beg your pardon: the Bible is authority for everything it touches.”
That includes, he said:

“physical geography, the earth, the sea and the air.”
Maury added:

“[W]hen, after patient research, I am led to the discovery of any one of [the physical laws the Creator has built into His creation], I feel with the astronomer of old [i.e., Kepler], as though I had ‘thought one of God’s thoughts,’— and tremble. Thus as we progress with our science we are permitted now and then to point out here and there in the physical machinery of the earth a design of the Great Architect when He planned it all.”
Indeed, as science professor Marcelo Gleiser points out, “science does not k**l God.” Far from it.

The late Dr. Robert Jastrow was an astronomer and a planetary physicist with NASA, and he wrote a book called, God and the Astronomers.

Jastrow noted:

“The scientist has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; and as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

Jerry Newcombe, D.Min., is an on-air host/senior producer for D. James Kennedy Ministries. He has written/co-written 31 books, e.g., The Unstoppable Jesus Christ, American Amnesia: Is American Paying the Price for Forgetting God?, What If Jesus Had Never Been Born? (w/ D. James Kennedy) & the bestseller, George Washington’s Sacred Fire (w/ Peter Lillback) djkm.org @newcombejerry www.jerrynewcombe.com

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

It's a pity there are no videos on the site you posted, so it's a big job to look into what this man is saying, if the thread takes off and I hope it does I will make a effort to understand what he's advocating.

Personally I think atheist is cool and agnostic is cold in the overall scheme of things and Religion is seperating the two, the Supreme Being is the Titanic, my God have I just mentioned Donald Trump, hummmmm, no it was only a reference to Trump Tower that is soon to be demolished before its built deep within the Russian Federation, the same thing happened to Robespierre just when he needed it most his ideas found no way that could possibly alleviate his d*****t ancillary condition, silence is golden but is it perfect, only Robespierre has knowledge about that, life goes on in memory to become a component of Reality.

The Supreme Being had no idea about all this stuff he was just made up, which offended the Maker obviously, Donald are you really sure about a Trump Tower in the Russian Federation?..

Creation came from dissatisfaction with stagnation the cause was, out there and in there, sort of in and out technology, same old narrative got boring, what happened after that only I know about, but not saying I was there exactly.

I heard about it from the Alien who once said to me, which I will quote, - "I answer everything because nothing answers me let's just say I am the epitome of conjecture".

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Any chance you could tell us where you earned your PhD in Psychobabble?

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Not one chance in the world .

However my colleagues in Heaven might be more forthcoming, let me just enquire.

I could never repeat the goodby Angel.

Blade_Runner you won't believe what their saying about your comment in Paradise so there is no point me saying.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Dr David Berlinski was a research assistant in molecular biology at Columbia University, and was a research fellow at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) in Austria and the Institut des Hautes Études Scientifiques (IHES) in France.

Berlinski has written works on systems analysis, the history of differential topology, analytic philosophy, and the philosophy of mathematics. Berlinski has authored books for the general public on mathematics and the history of mathematics. These include A Tour of the Calculus (1995) on calculus, The Advent of the Algorithm (2000) on algorithms, Newton's Gift (2000) on Isaac Newton, and Infinite Ascent: A Short History of Mathematics (2005)

In response to Richard Dawkin's book The God Delusion, Doctor Berlinski wrote The Devil’s Delusion: Atheism and its Scientific Pretensions. Here is a quote from his book:


“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close.

Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close.

Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close.

Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough.

Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough.

Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close.

Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough.

Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park.

Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”

Doctor Berlinski is an agnostic.

Carol Kelly

Really, another hidden university record,

Carol Kelly

Thank you, Bahmer. Up to your usual standard.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

If what you say about this good Doctor is true, I would agree he's on the wrong track.

But that doesn't mean Science doesn't match up with God the Creator, it just means that his fallacious accounts of beginning and purpose of the beginning are not accurate, the commonly accepted Creationist theory is even more figuratively remote in modern society and more or less adopted on the qualification of great need or great privlige within society, logic has always shunned those two motivations and gravitates away from sentiment and superstitious towards the three main objective philosophies Empiricism, Rationalism and Existentialism.

If I'm right anyone can qualify as the Prophet of God, I actually am the Prophet and can prove it, all that is necessary is my having a base for asserting the Correct Line that God's Ambitions are favourable with, all I need us a suitable platform from which to say dear Brothers and Sisters raise your right hand if you can discern what I think, thereby overcoming the problums associated with the Supreme Being as there is no need for tangible communication if enough hands go up, the base spreads and becomes iconic.

So really Religion was always about the Science of political certitude and Telepathic Consensus is the Religion of the Holy Ghost.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You win a gingerbread cookie for the most eloquent load of nonsense posted here in April, 2109.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thanks for the Laugh BL

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Not sure what you find amusing, but I reckon there's an element of humor in there somewhere.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Just the fact that there is anything to debate...

God created science along with everything else...

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

That's does it, you might be surprised to learn that there are Salafist groups that support my claim to be the Messiah, and many others not going quite so far have just given permission for me to use their name, one is the Al-Nour Party (Party of The Light) Egypt.

Gingerbread you say I'm very fond of gingerbread, maybe we can cut a deal.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, I know, but when it comes to religion and science, there is always something to debate.
Debates between religious scientists vs secular scientists has reached Biblical proportions.

promilitary

Meanwhile, God is smiling.

As for God's existence......open your eyes and ears and you will see hundreds, even thousands of
examples every day. In fact, consider how your eyes and ears work.....and how that stimulates
thoughts/images in the brain. Consider how a human is created. Who the hell do you think dreamed
all this up?