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Apr 1, 2019 00:41:53   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You can try to defend him but I am going by his actual words that you can find on you tube from his interviews


Here is part of the video that you are h*****g your claim on....https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/debunker/video/i-was-going-to-fire-comey-anyway-trump-tells-lester-holt-in-interview-941538371971

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Apr 1, 2019 10:04:00   #
currahee506
 
The President has nothing to fear from disclosure because he has nothing to hide. The "left" is all about "hiding" because it is all about lying. Every time these cowards yell "t***sparency" they are sharply exposed again for the frauds that they are. The t***h will always win.

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Apr 1, 2019 10:37:05   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Barr denied Trump the opportunity to claim executive privilege, by stating that he was NOT submitting the report to the WH for review. This speaks to Barr's integrity alone.


You forget our president didn’t have to allow any of this! Would or did ovomit?

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Apr 1, 2019 13:36:08   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He said to Lester Holt, I fired Comey because of the Russia thing.
He said the same thing to two Russian spies in the oval office.


You said "convict". He not only had the right to fire a political appointee for ANY or NO reason, Comey's using his office to pursue a political agenda (especially to an illegal degree, re: FISA court) at the expense of doing his job, meant to NOT fire him would have been irresponsible. For those i***ts who say the firing was an attempt to prevent him from revealing info against Trump--firing him would, and did, have the opposite effect. He was no longer bound by his office.

As for the Russian spies scenario, this has been totally debunked and even some of the news sources admitted they were wrong.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/accused-russian-spy-mariia-butina-photographed-oval-office/

https://newrepublic.com/article/153036/maria-butina-profile-wasnt-russian-spy

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Apr 1, 2019 13:37:55   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You can try to defend him but I am going by his actual words that you can find on you tube from his interviews


Yet YOU cannot find those words to quote here as asked.

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Apr 1, 2019 14:25:13   #
moldyoldy
 
JoyV wrote:
Yet YOU cannot find those words to quote here as asked.


Pennylynn posted a link to trump saying the words, as I stated.

Here is a short version. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trump+holt+interview&view=detail&mid=70D1397FD31E818454B770D1397FD31E818454B7&FORM=VIRE


As for Russians in the Oval Office.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/529171249/report-trump-told-russians-he-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation

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Apr 1, 2019 14:50:53   #
JoyV
 


You obviously had not been watching or reading any news the week preceding the meeting with Russian officials -- NOT SPIES. Nor did the reporters reporting this story pay attention to their own news. The info Trump revealed had been in the news and was public knowledge well before Trump repeated it.

As for what Trump said in the Holt interview, here is a transcript!
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TRUMP: Look, [Comey]'s a showboat. He's a grandstander.

The FBI has been in turmoil. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that.

You take a look at the FBI a year ago, it was in virtual turmoil -- less than a year ago. It hasn't recovered from that.

HOLT: Monday you met with the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

TRUMP: Right.

HOLT: Did you ask for a recommendation?

TRUMP: What I did is I was going to fire Comey. My decision. It was not...

HOLT: You had made the decision before they came into your office (ph).

TRUMP: I -- I was going to fire Comey. I -- there's no good time to do it, by the way.

They...

HOLT: Because in your letter, you said...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: They -- they were...

HOLT: ...I -- I accepted -- accepted their recommendations.

TRUMP: Yeah, well, they also...

HOLT: So, you had already made the decision.

TRUMP: Oh, I was going to fire regardless of recommendation.

HOLT: So, there was...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: They -- he made a recommendation. He's highly respected. Very good guy, very smart guy.

And the Democrats like him. The Republicans like him.

He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it

And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an e******n that they should've won.

And the reason they should've won it is the e*******l college is almost impossible for a Republican to win. It's very hard because you start off at such a disadvantage. So, everybody was thinking they should've won the e******n. This was an excuse for having lost an e******n.

HOLT: But were -- are you angry...

(CROSSTALK)

HOLT: ...angry with Mr. Comey because of his Russia investigation?

TRUMP: I just want somebody that's competent. I am a big fan of the FBI. I love the FBI.

HOLT: But were you a fan of...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: ...people of the FBI.

HOLT: him taking up that investigation?

TRUMP: I think that -- about the Hillary Clinton investigation?

HOLT: No, about -- about the Russian investigation and possible...

TRUMP: No, I don't care...

HOLT: ...links between...

TRUMP: Look -- look, let me tell you. As far as I'm concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly.

When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I'll expand that -- you know, I'll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should -- in my opinion, should've been over with a long time ago because it -- all it is an excuse.

But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people.

He's the wrong man for that position.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/11/trump_i_was_going_to_fire_comey_anyway.html

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Apr 1, 2019 16:08:14   #
moldyoldy
 
JoyV wrote:
You obviously had not been watching or reading any news the week preceding the meeting with Russian officials -- NOT SPIES. Nor did the reporters reporting this story pay attention to their own news. The info Trump revealed had been in the news and was public knowledge well before Trump repeated it.

As for what Trump said in the Holt interview, here is a transcript!
**************
TRUMP: Look, [Comey]'s a showboat. He's a grandstander.

The FBI has been in turmoil. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that.

You take a look at the FBI a year ago, it was in virtual turmoil -- less than a year ago. It hasn't recovered from that.

HOLT: Monday you met with the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

TRUMP: Right.

HOLT: Did you ask for a recommendation?

TRUMP: What I did is I was going to fire Comey. My decision. It was not...

HOLT: You had made the decision before they came into your office (ph).

TRUMP: I -- I was going to fire Comey. I -- there's no good time to do it, by the way.

They...

HOLT: Because in your letter, you said...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: They -- they were...

HOLT: ...I -- I accepted -- accepted their recommendations.

TRUMP: Yeah, well, they also...

HOLT: So, you had already made the decision.

TRUMP: Oh, I was going to fire regardless of recommendation.

HOLT: So, there was...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: They -- he made a recommendation. He's highly respected. Very good guy, very smart guy.

And the Democrats like him. The Republicans like him.

He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it

And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an e******n that they should've won.

And the reason they should've won it is the e*******l college is almost impossible for a Republican to win. It's very hard because you start off at such a disadvantage. So, everybody was thinking they should've won the e******n. This was an excuse for having lost an e******n.

HOLT: But were -- are you angry...

(CROSSTALK)

HOLT: ...angry with Mr. Comey because of his Russia investigation?

TRUMP: I just want somebody that's competent. I am a big fan of the FBI. I love the FBI.

HOLT: But were you a fan of...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: ...people of the FBI.

HOLT: him taking up that investigation?

TRUMP: I think that -- about the Hillary Clinton investigation?

HOLT: No, about -- about the Russian investigation and possible...

TRUMP: No, I don't care...

HOLT: ...links between...

TRUMP: Look -- look, let me tell you. As far as I'm concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly.

When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I'll expand that -- you know, I'll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should -- in my opinion, should've been over with a long time ago because it -- all it is an excuse.

But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people.

He's the wrong man for that position.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/11/trump_i_was_going_to_fire_comey_anyway.html
You obviously had not been watching or reading any... (show quote)


You go all around the world to try to deny things that I did not say. I said he admitted that he fired Comey because of Russia in the Holt interview and when he invited the two Russian spies into the oval office.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/index.html

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Apr 1, 2019 17:01:57   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You go all around the world to try to deny things that I did not say. I said he admitted that he fired Comey because of Russia in the Holt interview and when he invited the two Russian spies into the oval office.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/index.html


By saying he convicted himself with his own words, you implied he did something criminal or at the very least wrong. When you used the Comey firing as your evidence, and his words about the reasons, including Comey's focus on the Russian dossier at the expense of doing his job; you imply you believe the narrative that Trump fired Comey to end the investigation. The interview from which you derived those words clearly indicate otherwise. Trump said he had decided to fire Comey before the meeting where his firing was recommended. He listed multiple reasons, including the Russian dossier. Remember that at the time the Mueller investigation had yet to be called, and later Comey admitted publicly to telling Trump there was no investigation of him.

I certainly hope you never have the authority to convict anyone. Evidence? Nope. You don't need any. You'll know it when I 'think' it!

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Apr 1, 2019 17:16:43   #
moldyoldy
 
JoyV wrote:
By saying he convicted himself with his own words, you implied he did something criminal or at the very least wrong. When you used the Comey firing as your evidence, and his words about the reasons, including Comey's focus on the Russian dossier at the expense of doing his job; you imply you believe the narrative that Trump fired Comey to end the investigation. The interview from which you derived those words clearly indicate otherwise. Trump said he had decided to fire Comey before the meeting where his firing was recommended. He listed multiple reasons, including the Russian dossier. Remember that at the time the Mueller investigation had yet to be called, and later Comey admitted publicly to telling Trump there was no investigation of him.

I certainly hope you never have the authority to convict anyone. Evidence? Nope. You don't need any. You'll know it when I 'think' it!
By saying he convicted himself with his own words,... (show quote)


You have trumps word that Comey said he was not under investigation. Trump is hardly a reliable source, not only does he lie all the time but he is also ignorant, so his interpretation of what someone has said is unreliable. Trump saying that he fired Comey because of Russia is obstruction, and his actions afterward with Sessions was also obstruction.

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Apr 1, 2019 17:32:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Barr denied Trump the opportunity to claim executive privilege, by stating that he was NOT submitting the report to the WH for review. This speaks to Barr's integrity alone.

It does? You mean a government employee can deny the President his rights and privileges willy-nilly, just like that? Wow. I didn't know that. I think you should go back and read the relevant quote again, and pay special attention to the part where he describes how President Trump waived his oversight in this instance, giving the Attorney General the final say over what is released and what is lawfully redacted. It's called t***sparency, something you probably will never understand.

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Apr 1, 2019 18:54:59   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You have trumps word that Comey said he was not under investigation. Trump is hardly a reliable source, not only does he lie all the time but he is also ignorant, so his interpretation of what someone has said is unreliable. Trump saying that he fired Comey because of Russia is obstruction, and his actions afterward with Sessions was also obstruction.


1) The people he fired he had the right to.
2) Firing them did not prevent the investigation.
3) He never did anything to interfere or attempt to interfere with the investigation.
4) He was certainly not guilty of obstruction of justice which is defined as:
18 U.S.C. § 1503 defines "obstruction of justice" as an act that "corruptly or by threats or
force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes,
or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice."

Not only did he never threaten, force, write a threatening letter or communication, etc.; there was never a crime in the first place for which justice was impeded!!!!!!!

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Apr 1, 2019 20:26:28   #
moldyoldy
 
JoyV wrote:
1) The people he fired he had the right to.
2) Firing them did not prevent the investigation.
3) He never did anything to interfere or attempt to interfere with the investigation.
4) He was certainly not guilty of obstruction of justice which is defined as:
18 U.S.C. § 1503 defines "obstruction of justice" as an act that "corruptly or by threats or
force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes,
or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice."

Not only did he never threaten, force, write a threatening letter or communication, etc.; there was never a crime in the first place for which justice was impeded!!!!!!!
1) The people he fired he had the right to. br 2)... (show quote)


Trump is a walking crime wave, but you will never see it.

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Apr 1, 2019 21:40:58   #
JoyV
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is a walking crime wave, but you will never see it.


If you see it, you could documents his crimes. If you see it, do you also see one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eaters?

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Apr 1, 2019 23:15:38   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump is a walking crime wave, but you will never see it.

Wow. This must be one very exceptional crime wave for him to keep it under wraps even after all the scrutiny he's endured over the last three years or so. Even Mueller couldn't find anything to pin on him, but yeah, 'crime wave', run with it, straight into the nearest lamp post.

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