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Apr 1, 2019 10:42:03   #
Seth
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"I would almost say an act of s******n but whoever invented MAGA was too stupid to know our history. - rumitoid

Today's history lesson for rumitoid and other liberals to study:

THE E******N FIX
How the International Bankers and their owned Media have s**mmed the v****g public for decades.
EVER WONDER WHY BOTH PARTIES KEEP SELLING OUR REPUBLIC OUT TO THE NWO?
Bought politicians are sold out to the Bankers NWO agenda. Many are members of David Rockefeller’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) & Trilateral Commission (TC)
– Quite a Partnership! Both parties have given us a $22 TRILLION DEBT to the Private Fed Banksters; paying them interest for the use of our own money. If Art.1 Sec. 8 of The Constitution were followed; there would be no debt to those parasites.
Here is how “THE FIX” works: Dems nominate a g*******t/socialist & RePubs a g*******t/f*****t; both associated with Rockefeller’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and Trilateral Commission (TC). (ie. KerryVsBush, BushVsGore, BushVsClinton, FordVsCarter,HillaryVsMcCain) Then enough conned v**ers, v**e for “the lesser of two evils”. All other parties and candidates are ignored, smeared and eliminated with the help of the owned media.
Obama filled his cabinet with CFR/TC members, as all the previous administrations since Jimmy Carter did; the sell out continues.

The Republican Party NEOCON “leadership”, is the F*****t arm of the Banker’s CFR/TC/Bilderberg NWO agenda. The v**ers were duped into nominating another CFR member (McCain), with the same internationalist NWO agenda. Obama continued the Banker’s NWO agenda . The Int’l Banksters got what they wanted either way; the further elimination of our liberties and the Constitution, and the continued raiding of our treasury.
Many CONgressmen/Politicians are Parasites serving Master Parasites
SAY NO TO Rockefeller's NWO CFR/TC/Bilderberg Group AGENDA:

Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Clintons - CFR,B (D)
Mitt Romney - CFR (R) Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Barack Obama - CFR (D)
Christopher Dodd - CFR (D)
Bill Richardson - CFR (D)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, B (D)
Henry Kissinger - B (R) Paul Volker - CFR,TC,B ; A Greenspan; Ben Bernanke B
YouTube search: Freedom to F*****m
The Banksters have used F*****m, Socialism, C*******m, Dictatorships & “Democracy” to ens***e the world

James Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, and a member of FDR's "brain trust", testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950, "We shall have world government whether or not you like it--by conquest or consent”
“An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece,
will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack"
- Richard Gardner in CFR publication - Foreign Affairs - April, 1974.

Zbigniew Brzezinski (ZB) formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in 1970’s, and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter later became President, & ZB was made Carter's National Security Adviser.
“Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner passive man and a victory of reason over belief… and has served to stir the mind and to mobilize human energies purposefully ” (p.72) ZB –'Between Two Ages' (1970)
Referring to the rivalry between the USSR and the United States – “The eventual outcome of the competition is however, foreordained, given the inherent superiority of the c*******t system.” (pp.146,147) ZB –'Between Two Ages' (1970)

MS media & politicians tell Americans the danger is terrorism. Terrorists can't take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. Terrorists can't suspend the constitutional government, or abolish the separation of powers. TERRORISM CANNOT PICK US UP, SHUT US UP, OR ARREST US. The threat of terrorism is nothing like the threat of our own government in the name of fighting terrorism.

UNDERSTAND- Both party leaderships have been partners in Int’l Globalism: Ron Paul went up against the snakes on the MSM, and his party shut him out. The media and party “leaderships” tried to do the same to Trump. NWO F*****m or Socialism but no Constitutionalism - no real conservative choice - no Populism. True liberty is not allowed by their NWO controllers. Both parties have been partners in subjugation to the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers.

Ask Rush L. why he has always blocked all attempts to discuss CFR,TC,Bilderberg!
Why does Rush say “Follow the money.” But does not??? CALL HIM!!!

CONGRESS - Audit and FIRE the Private Federal Reserve
Congress has the power & responsibility to issue US Notes without interest to the Banksters
A great book on CFR/NWO agenda – ‘Descent into S***ery’ by Des Griffin at Amazon
Research: CFR/TC/Bilderberg Group
"I would almost say an act of s******n but wh... (show quote)


I read somewhere that when HW Bush was Reagan's VP, Reagan chastised him for his Trilateral Commission connection and said something to the effect that there was no room for it in his administration.

When he was president, George HW once made an approving comment about realizing a NWO being what the UN had originally been set up for.

If the founders of our country could see this sπ!£ they would undoubtedly be heartbroken beyond belief.

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Apr 1, 2019 10:48:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Seth wrote:
I read somewhere that when HW Bush was Reagan's VP, Reagan chastised him for his Trilateral Commission connection and said something to the effect that there was no room for it in his administration.

When he was president, George HW once made an approving comment about realizing a NWO being what the UN had originally been set up for.

If the founders of our country could see this sπ!£ they would undoubtedly be heartbroken beyond belief.
I read somewhere that when HW Bush was Reagan's VP... (show quote)


Papa Bush was a full on CFR internationalist. He was an agent for the elitist's NWO.
That is why the Big Money was behind him.

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Apr 1, 2019 12:57:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
rumitoid wrote:
This thread started with a response to another thread about unaccompanied children being deported. It starts with my post to another member.

You said, "Eric Holder when, discussing the slogan MAGA, asked the question "when was America ever great?" My fervent response is, when wasn't America great? That is what repulses me about that slogan. It degrades America. It is a lie. It is chum for the discontented h**ers to feed and attack. A d******e and scurrilous assault on this "great experiment" that has worked for over 200 years. Even through a Civil War and many differences. MAGA is an insult to every patriot who has live and died for this country. It is an indictment against all our great strides and tribulations to make our nation a "City upon a hill," as Jesus said in Mt5:14. MAGA is an egotistical jingoism of the privileged. Petty, at its finest. There are news items about people wearing MAGA hats getting harassed, kicked out of restaurants, cursed; you would to if you could see. That slogan stands for the worst in this country.

What has and will always make America great is freedom of the press and that, despite all the wealth and political pressure, all the special interests and prejudices, we will eventually right our wrongs, no matter how it hurts. No other country can say that. American exceptionalism! To insult this fine and glorious march to be what our founding fathers envisioned, maybe what God envisioned, by a nation of laws, no matter how slow or faltering, is an utter disgrace. I would almost say an act of s******n but whoever invented MAGA was too stupid to know our history.
This thread started with a response to another thr... (show quote)


Sooo rumitoid, you not being a patriot; What would be your slogan?

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Apr 1, 2019 14:16:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-nationalism-and-patriotism/

Mark Twain: “There are two kinds of patriotism -- monarchical patriotism and republican patriotism. In the one case the government and the king may rightfully furnish you their notions of patriotism; in the other, neither the government nor the entire nation is privileged to dictate to any individual what the form of his patriotism shall be. The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: "The King can do no wrong." We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: "Our country, right or wrong!" We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had:-- the individual's right to oppose both f**g and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away..."

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Apr 1, 2019 15:53:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
slatten49 wrote:
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-nationalism-and-patriotism/

Mark Twain: “There are two kinds of patriotism -- monarchical patriotism and republican patriotism. In the one case the government and the king may rightfully furnish you their notions of patriotism; in the other, neither the government nor the entire nation is privileged to dictate to any individual what the form of his patriotism shall be. The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: "The King can do no wrong." We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: "Our country, right or wrong!" We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had:-- the individual's right to oppose both f**g and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away..."
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/differen... (show quote)


I do not believe in "My country, right or wrong!". It takes some study to figure out which is which. Know your sources to get the "facts".

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Apr 1, 2019 16:41:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
slatten49 wrote:
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-nationalism-and-patriotism/

Mark Twain: “There are two kinds of patriotism -- monarchical patriotism and republican patriotism. In the one case the government and the king may rightfully furnish you their notions of patriotism; in the other, neither the government nor the entire nation is privileged to dictate to any individual what the form of his patriotism shall be. The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: "The King can do no wrong." We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: "Our country, right or wrong!" We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had:-- the individual's right to oppose both f**g and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away..."
http://www.differencebetween.net/language/differen... (show quote)


Haven't we moved beyond the mantra, "my country right or wrong?" It seems to me that the issue today is not so much the country but rather our people who are diametrically opposed to one another as to what are morally and spiritually acceptable values. One group of people claims these type of values are individual choices and must have no bearing on us as a nation. This is a relatively new concept and a departure from our traditional national ethos. The other group of people say these values actually determine the worth and merit of both our people and our nation. Laws have been passed predominantly favoring the first group. Yet how can there be compromise for those not willing to compromise their faith and morals? We're all boxed in! Both sides - divided Americans.

"Opinions" regarding right and wrong, good and evil have changed for a large segment of our people. While opinions are subject to change, for another large segment of Americans moral absolutes cannot: these Americans reject moral relativism. Moral and spiritual values have permanently been integrated into our politics. The balance has been upset and destroyed: be it temporary or permanent?

I'm pretty much resolved that the only thing that will ever unite us again is something so horrible occurs that it drives everyone to their knees begging God for mercy. But I'm sure hoping for alternate opportunities.

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Apr 1, 2019 16:50:43   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
padremike wrote:
Haven't we moved beyond the mantra, "my country right or wrong?" It seems to me that the issue today is not so much the country but rather our people who are diametrically opposed to one another as to what are morally and spiritually acceptable values. One group of people claims these type of values are individual choices and must have no bearing on us as a nation. This is a relatively new concept and a departure from our traditional national ethos. The other group of people say these values actually determine the worth and merit of both our people and our nation. Laws have been passed predominantly favoring the first group. Yet how can there be compromise for those not willing to compromise their faith and morals? We're all boxed in! Both sides - divided Americans.

"Opinions" regarding right and wrong, good and evil have changed for a large segment of our people. While opinions are subject to change, for another large segment of Americans moral absolutes cannot: these Americans reject moral relativism. Moral and spiritual values have permanently been integrated into our politics. The balance has been upset and destroyed: be it temporary or permanent?

I'm pretty much resolved that the only thing that will ever unite us again is something so horrible occurs that it drives everyone to their knees begging God for mercy. But I'm sure hoping for alternate opportunities.
Haven't we moved beyond the mantra, "my count... (show quote)

Nice post, Padre.

Like you, I'm sure hoping for alternative opportunities to reunite as Americans.

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Apr 1, 2019 16:54:56   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
slatten49 wrote:
Nice post, Padre.

Though, like you, I'm sure hoping for alternative opportunities to reunite as Americans.


Amen, my friend. I get so weary of this mess.

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Apr 1, 2019 18:32:02   #
son of witless
 
emarine wrote:
What if Trumps a dishonest man?... what if T***p w*n't release his returns?... what if Trumps economy isn't the very best ever?... what if trump has no healthcare plan?... what if Trump buries Mueller's report?... What if Trump had no credit in America & went to Russia for a loan?... what if Trump Tower in Brazil was owned By Russians & only had Trumps name on it?... what if Clinton lost the 2016 e******n fair & square?... does this prove Trump to be an honest ethical Man?... I can play what if all day...
What if Trumps a dishonest man?... what if T***p ... (show quote)


It is not Trump's fault that Rinos and Democrats cannot put together a health care plan that he can sign. You make a lot of what ifs that sound like accusations. What if you stuck to things you had evidence of ?

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Apr 3, 2019 02:29:19   #
Abel
 
4430 wrote:
Good post , however as I understand it these so called poor folks aren't walking all that way as they are being bused and loaded on semi trucks and hauled here and somewhere along the line someone is feeding them as well !

Due to the corrupt and incompetent Democrats that refuse to change the laws that has caused this invasion all with the idea of getting more folks that will v**e for them to get back in power and stay in poser forever !

Plus the Democrats in all reality could care less for these folks as they are just pawns in their scope of life !
Good post , however as I understand it these so ca... (show quote)


IMHO: Not only are they being bused and being pretty well clothed and fed, someone is paying their cell phone bills as well. Most of them seem to have rather expensive cell phones as they sit along the walls texting along the way, I wonder who is paying their phone bills.

Considering all the money we have heaped upon Central America, you would think these people would fight to rid their country of a socialist government that fleeces them daily, just as our fore-fathers did here in the USA when we broke from Great Brittan. I feel sorry for them also, but the Republic of the USA has it's limits, a Constitution, and a set of laws to guide us, and if this illegal migration continues as it is going now, we will be in the same cesspool they are in because of them and the Progressive Democrats that are busy buying their illegal v**es, and just who might you think will take in a ragged bunch of US citizens running from the violence and poverty of the "New Socialist Green Deal" in USA; and to where will we run? Maybe we could hide behind the "immoral" walls around the Pelosi castle. Who will be our next King?

It would be better if our Military would deploy to Central America and eliminate their gang and violence problems and make their country better. However, that would mean the Progressives would lose the illegal v**es and their political power. If you really want to locate the source of our problems, just follow the money, but Socialism isn't the way out of this cesspool! We need to get back to our Constitution, and protect our borders, language and culture!

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Apr 3, 2019 10:26:53   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Abel wrote:
IMHO: Not only are they being bused and being pretty well clothed and fed, someone is paying their cell phone bills as well. Most of them seem to have rather expensive cell phones as they sit along the walls texting along the way, I wonder who is paying their phone bills.

Considering all the money we have heaped upon Central America, you would think these people would fight to rid their country of a socialist government that fleeces them daily, just as our fore-fathers did here in the USA when we broke from Great Brittan. I feel sorry for them also, but the Republic of the USA has it's limits, a Constitution, and a set of laws to guide us, and if this illegal migration continues as it is going now, we will be in the same cesspool they are in because of them and the Progressive Democrats that are busy buying their illegal v**es, and just who might you think will take in a ragged bunch of US citizens running from the violence and poverty of the "New Socialist Green Deal" in USA; and to where will we run? Maybe we could hide behind the "immoral" walls around the Pelosi castle. Who will be our next King?

It would be better if our Military would deploy to Central America and eliminate their gang and violence problems and make their country better. However, that would mean the Progressives would lose the illegal v**es and their political power. If you really want to locate the source of our problems, just follow the money, but Socialism isn't the way out of this cesspool! We need to get back to our Constitution, and protect our borders, language and culture!
IMHO: Not only are they being bused and being pret... (show quote)


"IMHO: Not only are they being bused and being pretty well clothed and fed, someone is paying their cell phone bills as well. Most of them seem to have rather expensive cell phones as they sit along the walls texting along the way, ****
I wonder who is paying their phone bills." - Abel

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Apr 3, 2019 17:45:24   #
rumitoid
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Sooo rumitoid, you not being a patriot; What would be your slogan?


America Is Great!

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Apr 3, 2019 17:52:10   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
America Is Great!



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Apr 3, 2019 17:54:01   #
rumitoid
 
padremike wrote:
Haven't we moved beyond the mantra, "my country right or wrong?" It seems to me that the issue today is not so much the country but rather our people who are diametrically opposed to one another as to what are morally and spiritually acceptable values. One group of people claims these type of values are individual choices and must have no bearing on us as a nation. This is a relatively new concept and a departure from our traditional national ethos. The other group of people say these values actually determine the worth and merit of both our people and our nation. Laws have been passed predominantly favoring the first group. Yet how can there be compromise for those not willing to compromise their faith and morals? We're all boxed in! Both sides - divided Americans.

"Opinions" regarding right and wrong, good and evil have changed for a large segment of our people. While opinions are subject to change, for another large segment of Americans moral absolutes cannot: these Americans reject moral relativism. Moral and spiritual values have permanently been integrated into our politics. The balance has been upset and destroyed: be it temporary or permanent?

I'm pretty much resolved that the only thing that will ever unite us again is something so horrible occurs that it drives everyone to their knees begging God for mercy. But I'm sure hoping for alternate opportunities.
Haven't we moved beyond the mantra, "my count... (show quote)


I understand and appreciate your view, but you call "moral relativism" simply that which differs from your claim of "moral absolutes"; their mores may also be seen as "absolutes" by them and not necessarily "situational ethics," which are always relative. Many see those "absolutes" as a relativism distinct to a desert tribal culture dealing with the harshness of their environment and Iron Age superstitions. I am not saying it is, it is just impossible to prove they are "absolutes" and the other "relativism."

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Apr 3, 2019 18:07:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
rumitoid wrote:
America Is Great!


you got that right, in spite of the Democrat's push for socialism.

Now get thee to a petrologist?
Rumitoid; Have that finger examined also.
It looks infected.

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