no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Thank you for your suggestion. The wedding is set for September, last I heard so I will ask his counselor therapist before then. I think that the reason he went to jail was because he did not stop it while it was happening, but later when perhaps the two boys could have escaped. but I am not a lawyer. The thinking ability and reasoning power of a boy that age is not mature enough to have the ability to make adult decisions. Which ever, he got the help he needed both from my friend and the other psychologist working with him. If I know my friend as well as I think I do, they have gone from the counselor therapist stage to being friends, as have a number of boys we have worked with over the years. We all need friends that we can talk to and sort out out problems and we try to keep in touch with as many of them as want to stay connected.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Thank you for caring. We are hoping that he is in peace when he dies, as he certainly was not in peace during most of his life. It doesn't seem as if he is in much pain anyhow and that helps comfort SWMBO and me.

robby1

Thank you and God bless

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Thanks for that my friend. Glad to know your brother has such love around him at this time. I pray you both stay strong and, Brian comes to know how much he is loved and cared for by your presence with him.

Look forward to more of your updates when possible and God bless you, your wife, friends and those wondeful dogs!

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RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

You haven't faded away blacky, you're much like that bad penny...or, did you mean, nevermind.

You better stop spreading all that love around on here, people will start to talk. I know I will.

Nice thoughts b****sheep, I enjoyed them and any chance I have to be a thorn in your hoof too.

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RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Amen robby,

"Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope."

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Great thoughts Arm,

I like these OPP folks too...I started becoming hopeful once again just reading comments left here and in other threads. I wondered where all the good guys and girls went to and, well here you are!

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Amen to that Arm!

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no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

It has been a week since we got here, but it seems like a month. Both of us are exhausted. The other night I posted something and accidentally put it in the wrong place, and hurt someone's feelings, so I decided I needed some sleep, which as been in short supply Didn't get much last night, so if this post doesn't make much sense, you will know why.

Brian is steadily going down hill. He is now unwilling or unable to swallow, so the IV fluids are all that are working. When Brian had his second rectal surgery they told him that it had spread and the surgery was just a temporary reprieve. He and I and the lawyer worked out the arrangements, including the Hospice care rather than a hospital which would simply slow down the dying process. These people have been wonderful, and they are doing what he wanted.
I had put a cross on his night stand last Friday, and Saturday morning he was holding it. At that point he was lucid for short periods of time so we were able to talk. since then he has had a few periods where he could at least understand what we were saying to him, but that doesn't seem to be the case and more. Last Friday I told him that people were praying for him. After he asked why and I told him that there are wonderful people out there who care what happens to other people, even if they do not know them. At that he smiled.
I am still amazed at how many people are out there who will go out of their way to help complete strangers. Earlier in the week, I think it was Sunday, we had gone back over to our friends' house to catch up on some things. When we went back to Brian's house to get back to cleaning and sorting, we found a water pipe in the basement had broken, and the basement had turned into a swimming pool. His neighbor was kind enough to bring over his portable sump pump and help us get the water out. The plumber got here Tuesday and fixed it, and a couple of other pipes that were about ready to break. Talking to the neighbors when we had them over for pizza, they told us that Brian had barely said a word to them, or anyone else in the neighborhood for the six or seven years he lived there. He had just glared at them and gone back in his house. I kind of thought that might be the case. The neighbors with the sump pump said they would have been happy to help if my brother had told them he needed help, instead of always being such an old curmudgeon. Such a shame.

We have had time to take the dogs to the nursing home next door and all four, Airedales included, to the VA hospital a couple of times. The dogs are happiest when they are working, and they bring joy to so many people that it makes the whole experience much better.

Thank you all for caring and all your prayers. God Bless You.

Mike

robby1

The apostles asked Jesus why He spoke in parables. He said ,because it is for you to know and not them. This is how God speaks to His children. Through the mysteries of God's word. The hidden knowledge. Only the Holy Spirit can show a true believer that knowledge. Like Jesus said it is for you and not for them.

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

Thanks NPP,

I know finding time to post here has to be hard. I'm glad you can find blessings at such a difficult and trying time. Many of us are with you in spirit and pray for you daily.

God bless!

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

I grieve for the circumstances you have pointed out. I too, have known of a young man who in his youth was molested by his own drug addicted father while growing up. In turn, that kid ended up molesting some other children he had been asked to babysit, rather 'told' to babysit, even after pleading with his father that he didn't want to. I guess he was a teen by that time, and though that deep seed of molestation had been planted in him, he knew right from wrong, and was afraid of the situation of babysitting young kids. So the worst happened, the teen was incarcerated for approximately 10 years in a juvenile facility. Plus, three more children would suffer from what he suffered from.
During his incarceration and rehabilitation, he learned a lot about the Bible and Jesus Christ.
Once the kid was released he was a young adult, who joined up with the fire fighters who fight huge forest fires in various states.
He eventually married, but on the condition and understanding with his wife that there would be 'no children'. His wife eventually left him a few years later due to wanting children.
Still to this day, that man will not have children, but is productive as he can be all though being on the national list of pedifiles.
I followed this case due to my need to know what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to something that has caught my interest in the human cause.

Child molestation is a very difficult door to close, and memories that burned deep into the child's forming foundation of their life. I've had friends and acquaintances that were molested as children and talked about those things here and there. The subject is always very intense, with controlled dry emotions of deep sadness and anger in their voice and words. This is why I say 'it is a very difficult door to close'.

That man that I have mentioned, has made the right choice for him as far as not wanting his own children. His 'own' life in Jesus Christ is saved. Due to the pressing deep scars and lingering memories of his past however, and in the sense of a persons sexuality that's been wounded from it's base, having his 'own soul' saved and secured, that- is the greatest achievement for him.

Say this, if you were a recovered addict of long-time meth abuse, would you sit down at a table that was covered with meth- to see if you could resist?

It is a terrible thing that was done to that man I've talked about. Robbed of his innocence, robbed of normal memories, robbed of having a family of his own.
The goodness of it though, 'his own soul was saved in Jesus Christ.'

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Thank you for your insight. Over the years I have been part of a team led by a psychologist, with three or four therapist counselors like me, helping out with the psychologist's supervision.
One of the boys said to me some years ago t,at the molester "tore a hole in my soul and all the happiness leaked out" The healing is never complete, and there is still an empty part that cannot be filed. The posts about my brother, who is dying of rectal cancer are about the damage done by molestation made worse by a father who blamed his 12 year old son for having an "affair" with an adult man, and rejected him forever after that. That's why I do what I do, of course with the assistance of my wife, fondly known as "She Will Must Be Obeyed." I talk openly about the challenges he has gone through in addition to the problems the other boys have because people must understand two things: ! Boys get molested too, it is not just a girl thing @ The damage is just as intense or maybe more so, because the boys are often at an age when they are just beginning to understand masculinity and growing up male, and the experience damages that development, in some cases so badly that they never finish the growth into manhood. Keep in mind at the "Gay Rights" movement stated that a lowering or removal of all restrictions regarding age for legal "intergenerational sexual contact" was part of their plan. In other words, remove restrictions so that adults could legally have sex with children of any age.. That is why I make it a point to talk about it..
Again,thank you for your interest and insight.

God Bless.

robby1

I have heard people say to other people, God has a Plan for your life. As we grow in the Lord the Holy Spirit begins to work in our lives. There are many people in this world who are influenced by a Lot of Bad things that happen. We are subjected to T V radio and many other things that effect our lives. These are things that effect our lives a little at a time. It depends how we are affected by the things we see and hear. God gave man a knowledge of good and evil. We make the choices that effect our lives. Sometimes it is good and sometimes it is bad. God leads man to Himself at some point in life for salvation. In the book of James it says if we break one commandment we are guilty of breaking them all. So if you tell a lie your just as guilty as if you committed murder. Once God saves a person God changes their heart too. He remembers your sin no more as far as the east is from the west. We humans let Satan beat us up Just like Satan tried on Jesus when He went on a forty day fast. Jesus used the Word of God to defeat Satan. Satan has no power over the one that is saved. God's word says greater is the Holy Spirit in me than Satan who is in the world. It took a long time to reach the worst of what we are. Once God saves us God reverses our path to take us the other way. We were on a path to hell but God put us on a path to heaven. Just like Paul on the road to Damascus God got Pauls attention by knocking him off his horse. God gets our attention through trials and tribulations. Sometimes it is almost impossible to live with the things we do in life but we are not fighting alone. Once God saves us there is no condemnation. Old things pass away and all things become new.

rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.

wow! that was such a good post~
I need to share with you a verse, that for a long time I didn't understand it, I didn't 'want' to understand it.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
7 Woe unto the world because of offences! **for it must needs be that offences come;** but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Matthew 18.

For me, I was upset over the fact that how could God know that these offenses would happen, and allow them?
Then it was a very hard understanding and exceptence; 'that we are not in Heaven.' We are living in this world with Satan, the Devil, trying ever so hard to warp, pervert, and destroy, your ability to get into Heaven.

A good understanding of Faith, is that Faith is a frame of mind. A frame of mind we are to live in everyday. Your mind actually becomes one with Faith, doubt cast aside, and then miracles flow.
This is Why Jesus Christ Said: "Your Faith Has Healed You."
Even our modern day Pastors and Ministers have forgotten this.
The Devil, at every chance possible, will rip us, tear us, beat us, starve us, defile us, pervert every cell in your heart and mind, so to be destroyed.
Don't be destroyed. Remain in your Faith, your Faithfull frame of mind about the Lord God. It is not the battle ridden body that goes into Heaven in the end, but your spirit.
The one thing that the Devil cannot destroy, no matter what his tactics are, is your spirit if you remain in your faith, as all these things can and will happen to this person or that person.

Regarding the Physical person, we are sexual creatures by nature. It is instinctive that we be coupled, and multiply. In all reality, there are parts of our body that bring pleasure. Children don't understand the fullness of adult sexuality, neither to our teens for that matter.
But, in this innocence, to have someone come along and prematurely, way prematurely, introduce sexual pleasure between two people, though one is a child, that blows a whole in that child's learning process of Adult sexual pleasure in the manner of being 'in' love with someone. The proper learning about sex in the founding years of their life goes from 0 to 100 in a matter of minutes, with no understanding in between.

For some pedifiles, it is the deep memory of their first 'defilng' pleasurable experience that becomes like a high, and continue trying to repeat that high- even though they have learned it's wrong. For the hard core pedifiles, that makes it even more exciting, and they truly belong "Locked Up" away from society where they will do no harm.

The Lord performs his miracles within us all, and lifts us out of the deep pits created within us. He also depends upon us, to know our human boundaries and limitations- because of.