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Mar 23, 2019 11:13:28   #
bahmer
 
Legitimate Questions for Muslim Members of Congress!
By Dr. Don Boys - March 23, 2019

I was always taught that honest, decent, civilized people could discuss any issue and remain calm, civil, and cordial; however, in recent years those on the left refuse to dialog or defend their outrageous beliefs but prefer to denounce opponents as bigots, fanatics, and r****ts (even when race is not a component). L*****ts attack opponents because progressives cannot answer their valid questions.

Everyone seems to be supersensitive when any questions are asked of Muslims but why do they get a pass? Traditional Muslims have some very strange (even dangerous) beliefs and it is only reasonable to ask a Muslim candidate where he or she stands on beliefs that might be disruptive, dangerous, or even disastrous to our nation.

If a Christian Identity follower runs for office, we want to know how his belief will affect his or her political v**es.

If a pacifist Mennonite runs for office, we have a right to know if he or she will retaliate if America is attacked and if foreign tanks will be permitted to roll down Pennsylvania Avenue and hoist a foreign f**g over the White House.

If a KKK member becomes a candidate, we have a duty to ask his position on social issues and to repudiate his violent extremism. Well, we have made some exceptions such as Hugo Black, former senator and Supreme Court Justice and Senator Robert Byrd who served in congress for 60 years. No progressive l*****t has suggested that Byrd’s photos and statue be removed from their place of honor in America.

In respect for e******y, fairness, consistency, and the American Way, I wonder why they have not done so.

When Roman Catholic Jack Kennedy was running for President, he was often asked if his religion would conflict with his loyalty to America. There was fear that the Pope might have a dangerous access to the White House with Kennedy as President. Jack assured Americans that he did not speak for the Pope and the Pope did not speak for him. After he won (many say bought) the e******n, he humorously said that he telegraphed the Pope to pack his bags for his trip to America. There was no conflict; however, the concern was legitimate and the questions were rightly asked.

Thorough questioning of candidates is part and parcel of responsible journalism. It is incompetent, irresponsible, and immoral not to ask embarrassing questions of candidates. Piercing, probing, and persistent questions can keep Americans from electing thieves, thugs, and tyrants to political office.

The same would be true if Mitt Romney runs again (which I think he will). We have a right to know if the odd teachings of the Mormons are held by him and how they might impact his political decisions.

Americans would have every right to be assured that his religion would not negatively influence his performance as our leader.

If I as a Baptist, following a serious seizure of senility, decided to run for President, I would be expected to relate my views on immigration, homosexuality, a******n, capital punishment, welfare, gun control, etc. I would make my positions clear and admit that in event of a conflict with the U.S. Constitution and the Bible, I would support the Bible—and take my licks. The v**ers have a right to know what most Baptists believe.

Muslims are no exception.

Some Muslims may be as decent and patriotic as you and I and they are not a threat to anyone; however, it is Islamic doctrine that turns people into bombs. Americans have a right, even a responsibility to know of any Muslim (or otherwise) who may pose a threat to our nation.

Hence, I will try again to get some answers from Muslim members of congress—André Carson, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib. While they have a right (and the record will prove that I would support their right) to believe wh**ever they choose, they are not protected from justifying the possibility of the negative consequences from their beliefs. Since the three legislators are Muslims, I want to know if they believe what traditional Muslims believe since their beliefs will be reflected in how they v**e. The following questions (all based on fact) can all be answered with yes or no.

Honest people will not permit the elected officials to equivocate on this matter. Calling me a bigot (which really is irrelevant to the issue) does not deal with the problem. We have a right to know the answers.

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that those who convert from Islam should be k**led?

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that Jews are “descendants of apes and pigs“?

Will you repudiate all “honor” k*****gs?

Will you repudiate Female G*****l M********n (FGM)?

Will you repudiate child brides?

Will you repudiate the attacks upon Israel by Hamas and Hezbollah?

Do you believe Israel has a legal and moral right to exist behind safe and definite borders?

Will you repudiate Mohammed’s marriage to six-year-old Aisha?

Will you repudiate the 51 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by sharia courts rather than courts of the United States?

Do you consider obeying the Koran more important than following the U.S. Constitution?

Do you believe that followers of other religions are going to Heaven?

Will you repudiate a man having multiple wives?

Do you believe that imams who advocate violence or finance terrorism should be imprisoned or deported?

Do you believe homosexuality is sinful and should be illegal?

Do you believe that the nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans who agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Koran is acceptable, should be deported?

Do you believe that the 38 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that ISIS beliefs are Islamic or correct, should be deported?

Do you believe that non-Muslims are “dogs,” “donkeys,” and “cattle” as recorded in the Koran?

Do you believe that all mentally competent Muslims are required to practice jihad which according to the Koran is “holy fighting in the cause of Islam.” My official Koran published in Saudi Arabia reveals this t***h, as do the New Encyclopedia Britannica and the Dictionary of Islam.

A problem arises when Muslim apologists declare that wicked people have twisted passages in the Koran to justify dangerous ideas. That is not true. Footnotes in official Koran t***slations make it clear that jihad, sharia, right to lie, and fighting Christians and Jews are the reality. Moreover, their top scholars support those facts.

Terror is a fact of life for almost everyone on earth. The fuse is burning and America and the world are holding their breath. We are in a lifetime conflict with Koranic Muslims. The fuse is burning and the clock is ticking!

And I want some honest answers to legitimate questions. If Americans don’t face the t***h and ask and receive answers they will end up like a man wading waist-deep through the snake and alligator infested Everglades Swamp. And I don’t mean they will get wet.

They are going to get bit.

As seen here at Don Boys: Common Sense for Today. Posted here with permission.

Boys’ book, Muslim Invasion: The Fuse is Burning! is available; to get your copy, click here. An eBook edition is also available.

(Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indiana House of Representatives; ran a large Christian school in Indianapolis, wrote columns for USA Today for eight years; authored 18 books and hundreds of columns and articles for the internet and print media publications; and defended his beliefs on hundreds of talk shows. These columns go to newspapers, magazines, television, and radio stations and may be used without change from title through the end tag. His web sites are www.cstnews.com and www.Muslimfact.com and www.thegodh**ers.com. Contact Don for an interview or talk show.)

Follow Dr. Boys on Facebook at CSTNews and TheGodH**ers, Twitter, and visit his blog.

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Mar 23, 2019 11:46:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
This started out well...
Then became moronic...

I agree that all members of government should have to answer questions related to their faith...

Allow me to clarrify a few things...

Andre Carson is a member of the Nation of Islam (I believe)... They are not traditional Muslims, anymote than Mormons are traditional Christians... Even a cursory understanding of Islam would reveal this... The author's failure to make this distinction causes me to doubt his authority concerning Islam..

As to the questions...
1. Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that those who convert from Islam should be k**led?
An excellent question... Only the most extreme followers of Islam interpret it this way...

2. Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that Jews are “descendants of apes and pigs“?
I***tic question... Can be found nowhere in the Koran... Jews can convert to Islam... Apes and pigs cannot... Enough said..

3. Will you repudiate all “honor” k*****gs?
Excellent question... Needs to be asked of all middle Eastern and East Asian members of congress.... Christians from those areas are well known for such actions as well..

4. Will you repudiate Female G*****l M********n (FGM)?
Excellent question... No connection to Islam... The Koran specifically forbids such acts...
Will you repudiate child brides?

5. Will you repudiate the attacks upon Israel by Hamas and Hezbollah?
Excellent question... Should certainly be asked...

6.Do you believe Israel has a legal and moral right to exist behind safe and definite borders?
Excellent question... Like the definite borders part....

7. Will you repudiate Mohammed’s marriage to six-year-old Aisha?
I***tic question... Would you ask a Jewish member if they repudiate the slaughter of the Canaanites by their ancestors?

8. Will you repudiate the 51 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by sharia courts rather than courts of the United States?
Sources please? Very doubtful..

9. Do you consider obeying the Koran more important than following the U.S. Constitution?
Superb question... Most pertinent...

10. Do you believe that followers of other religions are going to Heaven?
No bearing on politics whatsoever...

11. Will you repudiate a man having multiple wives?
Loaded question... Should only apply to Americans... Replace the word "man" with the word "American" and it is fine...

12. Do you believe that imams who advocate violence or finance terrorism should be imprisoned or deported?
Great question...

13. Do you believe homosexuality is sinful and should be illegal?
Fine question..

14. Do you believe that the nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans who agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Koran is acceptable, should be deported?
Sources? Can't deport natural citizens... Only immigrants...

15.Do you believe that the 38 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that ISIS beliefs are Islamic or correct, should be deported?
Sources? See above...

16. Do you believe that non-Muslims are “dogs,” “donkeys,” and “cattle” as recorded in the Koran?
Not in the Koran... I***tic question...

17. Do you believe that all mentally competent Muslims are required to practice jihad which according to the Koran is “holy fighting in the cause of Islam.” My official Koran published in Saudi Arabia reveals this t***h, as do the New Encyclopedia Britannica and the Dictionary of Islam.
Jihad is defined as 'to struggle in the cause of Islam... But an excellent question... Should certainly be asked...

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Mar 23, 2019 12:01:50   #
waltmoreno
 
bahmer wrote:
Legitimate Questions for Muslim Members of Congress!
By Dr. Don Boys - March 23, 2019

I was always taught that honest, decent, civilized people could discuss any issue and remain calm, civil, and cordial; however, in recent years those on the left refuse to dialog or defend their outrageous beliefs but prefer to denounce opponents as bigots, fanatics, and r****ts (even when race is not a component). L*****ts attack opponents because progressives cannot answer their valid questions.

Everyone seems to be supersensitive when any questions are asked of Muslims but why do they get a pass? Traditional Muslims have some very strange (even dangerous) beliefs and it is only reasonable to ask a Muslim candidate where he or she stands on beliefs that might be disruptive, dangerous, or even disastrous to our nation.

If a Christian Identity follower runs for office, we want to know how his belief will affect his or her political v**es.

If a pacifist Mennonite runs for office, we have a right to know if he or she will retaliate if America is attacked and if foreign tanks will be permitted to roll down Pennsylvania Avenue and hoist a foreign f**g over the White House.

If a KKK member becomes a candidate, we have a duty to ask his position on social issues and to repudiate his violent extremism. Well, we have made some exceptions such as Hugo Black, former senator and Supreme Court Justice and Senator Robert Byrd who served in congress for 60 years. No progressive l*****t has suggested that Byrd’s photos and statue be removed from their place of honor in America.

In respect for e******y, fairness, consistency, and the American Way, I wonder why they have not done so.

When Roman Catholic Jack Kennedy was running for President, he was often asked if his religion would conflict with his loyalty to America. There was fear that the Pope might have a dangerous access to the White House with Kennedy as President. Jack assured Americans that he did not speak for the Pope and the Pope did not speak for him. After he won (many say bought) the e******n, he humorously said that he telegraphed the Pope to pack his bags for his trip to America. There was no conflict; however, the concern was legitimate and the questions were rightly asked.

Thorough questioning of candidates is part and parcel of responsible journalism. It is incompetent, irresponsible, and immoral not to ask embarrassing questions of candidates. Piercing, probing, and persistent questions can keep Americans from electing thieves, thugs, and tyrants to political office.

The same would be true if Mitt Romney runs again (which I think he will). We have a right to know if the odd teachings of the Mormons are held by him and how they might impact his political decisions.

Americans would have every right to be assured that his religion would not negatively influence his performance as our leader.

If I as a Baptist, following a serious seizure of senility, decided to run for President, I would be expected to relate my views on immigration, homosexuality, a******n, capital punishment, welfare, gun control, etc. I would make my positions clear and admit that in event of a conflict with the U.S. Constitution and the Bible, I would support the Bible—and take my licks. The v**ers have a right to know what most Baptists believe.

Muslims are no exception.

Some Muslims may be as decent and patriotic as you and I and they are not a threat to anyone; however, it is Islamic doctrine that turns people into bombs. Americans have a right, even a responsibility to know of any Muslim (or otherwise) who may pose a threat to our nation.

Hence, I will try again to get some answers from Muslim members of congress—André Carson, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib. While they have a right (and the record will prove that I would support their right) to believe wh**ever they choose, they are not protected from justifying the possibility of the negative consequences from their beliefs. Since the three legislators are Muslims, I want to know if they believe what traditional Muslims believe since their beliefs will be reflected in how they v**e. The following questions (all based on fact) can all be answered with yes or no.

Honest people will not permit the elected officials to equivocate on this matter. Calling me a bigot (which really is irrelevant to the issue) does not deal with the problem. We have a right to know the answers.

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that those who convert from Islam should be k**led?

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that Jews are “descendants of apes and pigs“?

Will you repudiate all “honor” k*****gs?

Will you repudiate Female G*****l M********n (FGM)?

Will you repudiate child brides?

Will you repudiate the attacks upon Israel by Hamas and Hezbollah?

Do you believe Israel has a legal and moral right to exist behind safe and definite borders?

Will you repudiate Mohammed’s marriage to six-year-old Aisha?

Will you repudiate the 51 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by sharia courts rather than courts of the United States?

Do you consider obeying the Koran more important than following the U.S. Constitution?

Do you believe that followers of other religions are going to Heaven?

Will you repudiate a man having multiple wives?

Do you believe that imams who advocate violence or finance terrorism should be imprisoned or deported?

Do you believe homosexuality is sinful and should be illegal?

Do you believe that the nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans who agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Koran is acceptable, should be deported?

Do you believe that the 38 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that ISIS beliefs are Islamic or correct, should be deported?

Do you believe that non-Muslims are “dogs,” “donkeys,” and “cattle” as recorded in the Koran?

Do you believe that all mentally competent Muslims are required to practice jihad which according to the Koran is “holy fighting in the cause of Islam.” My official Koran published in Saudi Arabia reveals this t***h, as do the New Encyclopedia Britannica and the Dictionary of Islam.

A problem arises when Muslim apologists declare that wicked people have twisted passages in the Koran to justify dangerous ideas. That is not true. Footnotes in official Koran t***slations make it clear that jihad, sharia, right to lie, and fighting Christians and Jews are the reality. Moreover, their top scholars support those facts.

Terror is a fact of life for almost everyone on earth. The fuse is burning and America and the world are holding their breath. We are in a lifetime conflict with Koranic Muslims. The fuse is burning and the clock is ticking!

And I want some honest answers to legitimate questions. If Americans don’t face the t***h and ask and receive answers they will end up like a man wading waist-deep through the snake and alligator infested Everglades Swamp. And I don’t mean they will get wet.

They are going to get bit.

As seen here at Don Boys: Common Sense for Today. Posted here with permission.

Boys’ book, Muslim Invasion: The Fuse is Burning! is available; to get your copy, click here. An eBook edition is also available.

(Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indiana House of Representatives; ran a large Christian school in Indianapolis, wrote columns for USA Today for eight years; authored 18 books and hundreds of columns and articles for the internet and print media publications; and defended his beliefs on hundreds of talk shows. These columns go to newspapers, magazines, television, and radio stations and may be used without change from title through the end tag. His web sites are www.cstnews.com and www.Muslimfact.com and www.thegodh**ers.com. Contact Don for an interview or talk show.)

Follow Dr. Boys on Facebook at CSTNews and TheGodH**ers, Twitter, and visit his blog.
Legitimate Questions for Muslim Members of Congres... (show quote)


In this era of political correctness, good luck getting your questions answered. Political correctness should be thrown in the trash where it belongs. It stifles meaningful debate by putting politically sensitive topics off limits.

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Mar 23, 2019 12:03:00   #
Kevyn
 
bahmer wrote:
Legitimate Questions for Muslim Members of Congress!
By Dr. Don Boys - March 23, 2019

I was always taught that honest, decent, civilized people could discuss any issue and remain calm, civil, and cordial; however, in recent years those on the left refuse to dialog or defend their outrageous beliefs but prefer to denounce opponents as bigots, fanatics, and r****ts (even when race is not a component). L*****ts attack opponents because progressives cannot answer their valid questions.

Everyone seems to be supersensitive when any questions are asked of Muslims but why do they get a pass? Traditional Muslims have some very strange (even dangerous) beliefs and it is only reasonable to ask a Muslim candidate where he or she stands on beliefs that might be disruptive, dangerous, or even disastrous to our nation.

If a Christian Identity follower runs for office, we want to know how his belief will affect his or her political v**es.

If a pacifist Mennonite runs for office, we have a right to know if he or she will retaliate if America is attacked and if foreign tanks will be permitted to roll down Pennsylvania Avenue and hoist a foreign f**g over the White House.

If a KKK member becomes a candidate, we have a duty to ask his position on social issues and to repudiate his violent extremism. Well, we have made some exceptions such as Hugo Black, former senator and Supreme Court Justice and Senator Robert Byrd who served in congress for 60 years. No progressive l*****t has suggested that Byrd’s photos and statue be removed from their place of honor in America.

In respect for e******y, fairness, consistency, and the American Way, I wonder why they have not done so.

When Roman Catholic Jack Kennedy was running for President, he was often asked if his religion would conflict with his loyalty to America. There was fear that the Pope might have a dangerous access to the White House with Kennedy as President. Jack assured Americans that he did not speak for the Pope and the Pope did not speak for him. After he won (many say bought) the e******n, he humorously said that he telegraphed the Pope to pack his bags for his trip to America. There was no conflict; however, the concern was legitimate and the questions were rightly asked.

Thorough questioning of candidates is part and parcel of responsible journalism. It is incompetent, irresponsible, and immoral not to ask embarrassing questions of candidates. Piercing, probing, and persistent questions can keep Americans from electing thieves, thugs, and tyrants to political office.

The same would be true if Mitt Romney runs again (which I think he will). We have a right to know if the odd teachings of the Mormons are held by him and how they might impact his political decisions.

Americans would have every right to be assured that his religion would not negatively influence his performance as our leader.

If I as a Baptist, following a serious seizure of senility, decided to run for President, I would be expected to relate my views on immigration, homosexuality, a******n, capital punishment, welfare, gun control, etc. I would make my positions clear and admit that in event of a conflict with the U.S. Constitution and the Bible, I would support the Bible—and take my licks. The v**ers have a right to know what most Baptists believe.

Muslims are no exception.

Some Muslims may be as decent and patriotic as you and I and they are not a threat to anyone; however, it is Islamic doctrine that turns people into bombs. Americans have a right, even a responsibility to know of any Muslim (or otherwise) who may pose a threat to our nation.

Hence, I will try again to get some answers from Muslim members of congress—André Carson, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib. While they have a right (and the record will prove that I would support their right) to believe wh**ever they choose, they are not protected from justifying the possibility of the negative consequences from their beliefs. Since the three legislators are Muslims, I want to know if they believe what traditional Muslims believe since their beliefs will be reflected in how they v**e. The following questions (all based on fact) can all be answered with yes or no.

Honest people will not permit the elected officials to equivocate on this matter. Calling me a bigot (which really is irrelevant to the issue) does not deal with the problem. We have a right to know the answers.

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that those who convert from Islam should be k**led?

Will you repudiate the Koranic teaching that Jews are “descendants of apes and pigs“?

Will you repudiate all “honor” k*****gs?

Will you repudiate Female G*****l M********n (FGM)?

Will you repudiate child brides?

Will you repudiate the attacks upon Israel by Hamas and Hezbollah?

Do you believe Israel has a legal and moral right to exist behind safe and definite borders?

Will you repudiate Mohammed’s marriage to six-year-old Aisha?

Will you repudiate the 51 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by sharia courts rather than courts of the United States?

Do you consider obeying the Koran more important than following the U.S. Constitution?

Do you believe that followers of other religions are going to Heaven?

Will you repudiate a man having multiple wives?

Do you believe that imams who advocate violence or finance terrorism should be imprisoned or deported?

Do you believe homosexuality is sinful and should be illegal?

Do you believe that the nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans who agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Koran is acceptable, should be deported?

Do you believe that the 38 percent of Muslim-Americans who say that ISIS beliefs are Islamic or correct, should be deported?

Do you believe that non-Muslims are “dogs,” “donkeys,” and “cattle” as recorded in the Koran?

Do you believe that all mentally competent Muslims are required to practice jihad which according to the Koran is “holy fighting in the cause of Islam.” My official Koran published in Saudi Arabia reveals this t***h, as do the New Encyclopedia Britannica and the Dictionary of Islam.

A problem arises when Muslim apologists declare that wicked people have twisted passages in the Koran to justify dangerous ideas. That is not true. Footnotes in official Koran t***slations make it clear that jihad, sharia, right to lie, and fighting Christians and Jews are the reality. Moreover, their top scholars support those facts.

Terror is a fact of life for almost everyone on earth. The fuse is burning and America and the world are holding their breath. We are in a lifetime conflict with Koranic Muslims. The fuse is burning and the clock is ticking!

And I want some honest answers to legitimate questions. If Americans don’t face the t***h and ask and receive answers they will end up like a man wading waist-deep through the snake and alligator infested Everglades Swamp. And I don’t mean they will get wet.

They are going to get bit.

As seen here at Don Boys: Common Sense for Today. Posted here with permission.

Boys’ book, Muslim Invasion: The Fuse is Burning! is available; to get your copy, click here. An eBook edition is also available.

(Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indiana House of Representatives; ran a large Christian school in Indianapolis, wrote columns for USA Today for eight years; authored 18 books and hundreds of columns and articles for the internet and print media publications; and defended his beliefs on hundreds of talk shows. These columns go to newspapers, magazines, television, and radio stations and may be used without change from title through the end tag. His web sites are www.cstnews.com and www.Muslimfact.com and www.thegodh**ers.com. Contact Don for an interview or talk show.)

Follow Dr. Boys on Facebook at CSTNews and TheGodH**ers, Twitter, and visit his blog.
Legitimate Questions for Muslim Members of Congres... (show quote)


We would never question a Christian or Jew in this manner, Muslim members of Congress swear an oath to our constitution the same as Christians, Jews and Non Believers do. In the case of the latter it is a solemn confirmation. Below is a list of punishments from the Bible many defy our constitution or law. Would you find it necessary to query every Christian congressman on wether adulterous Americans should be exicuted as is required in their holy text?

Punishments for Sin
20 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him. 3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.

6 “‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.

7 “‘Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. 8 Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy.

9 “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

14 “‘If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

15 “‘If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he is to be put to death, and you must k**l the animal.

16 “‘If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, k**l both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

17 “‘If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.

18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

19 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible.

20 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless.

21 “‘If a man marries his brother’s wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.

22 “‘Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out. 23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them. 24 But I said to you, “You will possess their land; I will give it to you as an inheritance, a land flowing with milk and honey.” I am the Lord your God, who has set you apart from the nations.

25 “‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you. 26 You are to be holy to me because I, the Lord, am holy, and I have set you apart from the nations to be my own.

27 “‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’”

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Mar 23, 2019 15:30:53   #
Iliamna1
 
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, or lying, to unbelievers. It is in the Koran that it is just fine to make treaties with and swear oaths to unbelievers with the intent to break their word when it's convenient. So it doesn't matter that a Muslim representative, senator, or president has sworn on a Bible or koran to uphold the Constitution, taqqia prevails. They can lie to their heart's content as we are infidels and the Muslims have a moral obligation to say, or do, anything to advance the goals of Islam, which is world domination.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:03:02   #
bahmer
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, or lying, to unbelievers. It is in the Koran that it is just fine to make treaties with and swear oaths to unbelievers with the intent to break their word when it's convenient. So it doesn't matter that a Muslim representative, senator, or president has sworn on a Bible or koran to uphold the Constitution, taqqia prevails. They can lie to their heart's content as we are infidels and the Muslims have a moral obligation to say, or do, anything to advance the goals of Islam, which is world domination.
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, o... (show quote)


Yeah that kind of reminds me of when Obama was president he lied to us continually tring to get us to believe his crap.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:08:48   #
woodguru
 
bahmer wrote:

(Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indiana House of Representatives; ran a large Christian school in Indianapolis, wrote columns for USA Today for eight years; authored 18 books and hundreds of columns and articles for the internet and print media publications; and defended his beliefs on hundreds of talk shows. These columns go to newspapers, magazines, television, and radio stations and may be used without change from title through the end tag. His web sites are www.cstnews.com and www.Muslimfact.com and www.thegodh**ers.com. Contact Don for an interview or talk show.)

Follow Dr. Boys on Facebook at CSTNews and TheGodH**ers, Twitter, and visit his blog.
br (Dr. Don Boys is a former member of the Indian... (show quote)


Oh yeah, it sounds like DonBoy keeps his faith out of politics.

Put questions about a hard right christian's faith to that standard, are they prepared to keep their religious beliefs and values out of government? I object to any religiously based arguments from being brought into government, particularly hatred toward someone else's religious beliefs.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:11:14   #
woodguru
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, or lying, to unbelievers. It is in the Koran that it is just fine to make treaties with and swear oaths to unbelievers with the intent to break their word when it's convenient. So it doesn't matter that a Muslim representative, senator, or president has sworn on a Bible or koran to uphold the Constitution, taqqia prevails. They can lie to their heart's content as we are infidels and the Muslims have a moral obligation to say, or do, anything to advance the goals of Islam, which is world domination.
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, o... (show quote)


Republicans apparently share this belief too, they thinks lies are okay, that once you've heard them repeated enough they become people's t***h. As Conway put it, if enough people believe it it becomes the t***h

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Mar 23, 2019 16:15:15   #
Iliamna1
 
woodguru wrote:
Republicans apparently share this belief too, they thinks lies are okay, that once you've heard them repeated enough they become people's t***h. As Conway put it, if enough people believe it it becomes the t***h


I find that far more true on the left.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:35:24   #
Rose42
 
Kevyn wrote:
We would never question a Christian or Jew in this manner


No we wouldn't and there's a good reason for that. No other religion has a poisonous effect on a society as islam. That's why.

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Mar 23, 2019 19:20:45   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, or lying, to unbelievers. It is in the Koran that it is just fine to make treaties with and swear oaths to unbelievers with the intent to break their word when it's convenient. So it doesn't matter that a Muslim representative, senator, or president has sworn on a Bible or koran to uphold the Constitution, taqqia prevails. They can lie to their heart's content as we are infidels and the Muslims have a moral obligation to say, or do, anything to advance the goals of Islam, which is world domination.
Another pertinent question is the use of taqqia, o... (show quote)


That is a completely fictitious t***slation if the term Taqiyya..
And nowhere in the Koran does it state that Muslims nay break their word with others unless the others first break their word...


Edit: Apologies... How are you this evening Iliamna? I hit send before I saw who I was responding to..

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Mar 23, 2019 19:21:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
bahmer wrote:
Yeah that kind of reminds me of when Obama was president he lied to us continually tring to get us to believe his crap.


Obama was not a Muslim...

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Mar 24, 2019 08:02:29   #
Iliamna1
 
Here are some quick references friom both the Koran and the Hadith on lying, taken from the site "the Religion of Peace" which

Quran
Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49)

Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..."

Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Hadith and Sira
Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed companions by Muhammad's men after they were "guaranteed" safe passage.

Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy." The Quran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers" (4:101).

Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the t***h and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the t***h, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression... (See the Permissible Lying section on the Sharia page for more)

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the t***h, and if the consequences of telling the t***h are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."

These aren't all the verses from the Muslim books, but I believe these are the main sources to allow taqyya with infidels (I am an Infidel according to the Koran and Hadif).

I slept like a rock and it's now 8 am and time to get cracking. I have several projects finish today.
And how are you? I hope you have warmer days ahead.

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Mar 24, 2019 09:20:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
One should always vet quotes, and never use partial verses...

Verse 16:106
Anyone who , after accepting
Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief -
Except under compulsion,
His heart remaining firm
In Faith - but such as
Open their breasts to Unbelief -
On them is the Wrath of Allah,
And theirs will be
a dreadful Penalty.

Muslims may only deny their faith if the are compelled to for reasons of bodily harm or threat of death...

Verse 60:2 is concerning marriage....As is verse 2:25...
Not oaths made to other people... Clear misrepresentation...

A simple reading of the Koran makes all of the other verses clear as well...

The Quotes from the works of Muslim scholars I would never dream of contesting... All faiths have those who twist their teachings to suit their own purposes... And those who swallow the lies and embrace the hatred...
I will offer my prayers to them, in the hope that they receive proper judgement from our Lord...

And you would be considered Ketabe (a Person of the Book) not an infidel... Infidels lack belief in God...
Muslims are forbidden to k**l them unless they attack first.. And must cease fighting if they sue for peace...
See verses 2:90-93

Still freezing here... Just got home from work and running a bath for my daughter...

Glad to hear you got an early start... It's the best way to start the day... Hope you have a good one...

Your friend, Kyle

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Mar 24, 2019 11:40:17   #
BigJim
 
Having multiple wives leads to political instability. You get a large number of unmarried males with no chance of a bride. They become a breeding ground for extremists.

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