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Mar 22, 2019 16:57:43   #
Seth
 
Kevyn wrote:
Putin handed your I***t Pumpkinfuhrer his e*******l victory, and you were played by him.


You must've led a much more extensive investigation with more access to witnesses and information than Robert Mueller or Adam Schitt, because over a two year period neither one of them could produce any evidence at all of Trump-Russia collusion.

Either that or you're just an uninformed, lying l*****t stooge not fit to clean Trump's shoes.

Please present your irrefutable evidence so we know the former, and not the latter, is indeed the case.

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Mar 22, 2019 17:01:44   #
Seth
 
Lonewolf wrote:
He one by the smalesr margin ever


Nevertheless, he (was #) "one."

-- "Live with it!"

-- "Be thankful!"

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Mar 22, 2019 17:11:06   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
Yes, he won an e******n, I was waiting for him to start acting like a president that represents all people instead of a moron who cares only about those who say nice things and prove their loyalty to him.


Every time Trump beating Hillary comes up, even though the e******n took place 28 months ago, you sore loser lefties still sing the same old song:

http://youtu.be/R7uC5m-IRns

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Mar 22, 2019 17:22:42   #
okie don
 
Kevyn wrote:
Putin handed your I***t Pumpkinfuhrer his e*******l victory, and you were played by him.


Will not allow Los Angeles, New Your and Chicago cities dictate who AMERICA wanted to lead us Kev...
Sorry

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Mar 22, 2019 19:00:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maximus wrote:
I'm glad that you stated that statistics can be manipulated to show just about wh**ever the statistician wants. That's why when woodguru challenged me as to whether or not I saw it, I had to search to find it, and in doing so, found 4? 399% reports on the first page. At the same time, I saw several ( didn't count) reports that said more or less that Trumps economic policies are just not working, and the ones that say it IS working say that the credit belongs to Obama. If they say the job growth is good, then Trump gets no credit for it, and if the job market is bad, then Trump gets all the credit for it. Then there is the other side of the "news" that sing the praises of Trump.
To me, by your figures, the 399% manufacturing job growth is true. I had a friend who just gave up trying to get a job and somehow, he got disability. So, I know that it's true that many people just gave up on finding a job under Obama. Doesn't matter whether or not I like Obama, the statement is true. I haven't heard of that mindset in all of Trump's administration, and again, whether or not I like him, that statement is true in my own experience. Does that mean that people who couldn't get a job are getting a job under Trump? To me, it would seem so. Some say that manufacturing jobs don't pay that well, but, as I've been there myself, if you don't have a job, shoveling dookie in a horse barn for $7.50 per hour will put beans on the table and the worker is glad to be working....again.
Myself, I believe that manufacturing is every bit as important as, say...lawyers, doctors, CEO's, or anyone who makes a lot of money not working. ( Yes...I know they spent a lot of money for the education thing) But what does a lawyer need to be a lawyer? A collage for one, meaning construction jobs, a car, meaning manufacturing jobs, a house, a TV, cell phones, schools for the children, cafeteria workers to feed those children, and a myriad of others things that have to be built, made, or performed. The same is true for all upper class high dollar employees. Someone has to all these thing for them so why shouldn't Americans fulfill that need? Even flipping burgers at Hardee's looks good to someone that has no income.

My long winded point is this; jobs are jobs and if Trump saw a 399% increase over the record of a previous administration, then I say stand up and give him the praise he deserves. I promise you that anyone who now has a job that didn't before will gladly join me. If Trump is only doing as well as Obama, then whats the problem with Trump because Obama was loved, and if their performance is the same, why is it really good for Obama but really bad for Trump?
I'm glad that you stated that statistics can be ma... (show quote)




I like some of your points.. the chain of needs to become a lawyer is very good and so often overlooked..

Yes, if you have none, any job is great..

Why does Obama get an atta boy and trump get scorn??

Obama had to deal with an economy in collapse.. even in other parts of the world.. he did a good job. Maybe it could of been done better, but no one else in the world matched his results. slow;yes but results were consistent and positive and better then any other efforts.

trump got a working/recovered economy which he has kept going in the same direction. even his negative policies have not yet done more than cause tremors in the economy. So by doing nothing of value, that shows he is without doubt riding on President Obama work..

If you want to find credit for trump... the GM shutdown in process will have near 15,000 jobs lost..
His personal talks with the CEO of GM have resulted in increased work in a Michigan plant and 400 jobs created at that plant..

So, think that would not have happened without trump talking? I have no idea, so that would be a high water mark for the current white house occupant..



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Mar 22, 2019 19:22:35   #
Seth
 
okie don wrote:
Will not allow Los Angeles, New Your and Chicago cities dictate who AMERICA wanted to lead us Kev...
Sorry


Speaking of which...

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/22/why-democrats-fear-the-e*******l-college/

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Mar 22, 2019 21:58:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
permafrost wrote:
I like some of your points.. the chain of needs to become a lawyer is very good and so often overlooked..

Yes, if you have none, any job is great..

Why does Obama get an atta boy and trump get scorn??

Obama had to deal with an economy in collapse.. even in other parts of the world.. he did a good job. Maybe it could of been done better, but no one else in the world matched his results. slow;yes but results were consistent and positive and better then any other efforts.

trump got a working/recovered economy which he has kept going in the same direction. even his negative policies have not yet done more than cause tremors in the economy. So by doing nothing of value, that shows he is without doubt riding on President Obama work..

If you want to find credit for trump... the GM shutdown in process will have near 15,000 jobs lost..
His personal talks with the CEO of GM have resulted in increased work in a Michigan plant and 400 jobs created at that plant..

So, think that would not have happened without trump talking? I have no idea, so that would be a high water mark for the current white house occupant..
I like some of your points.. the chain of needs to... (show quote)


"Obama had to deal with an economy in collapse.. even in other parts of the world.. he did a good job. Maybe it could of been done better, but no one else in the world matched his results. slow;yes but results were consistent and positive and better then any other efforts. "

Really?
China rocked the rest of the world during the collapse...Just saying

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Mar 23, 2019 03:51:08   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
"Obama had to deal with an economy in collapse.. even in other parts of the world.. he did a good job. Maybe it could of been done better, but no one else in the world matched his results. slow;yes but results were consistent and positive and better then any other efforts. "


Not to mention the GOP had a stranglehold with the most obstruction and filibusters ever. The norm of less than 20 for a term shot up to over 300, actually almost 400 a year.

McConnell literally said it was the job of the GOP to keep Obama from having any success that could make him look good. The economy could have done much better with GOP support.

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Mar 23, 2019 04:49:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
woodguru wrote:
Not to mention the GOP had a stranglehold with the most obstruction and filibusters ever. The norm of less than 20 for a term shot up to over 300, actually almost 400 a year.

McConnell literally said it was the job of the GOP to keep Obama from having any success that could make him look good. The economy could have done much better with GOP support.


My post was a response... I was quoting another member...

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Mar 23, 2019 08:19:30   #
1ProudAmerican
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
His stimulus produced some jobs; shovel ready ones at that! And only $400,000 per job! What a plan!!!!


Those shovel ready jobs were mostly digging graves for those who committed "suicide" or died, can you say B******i, on the Clinton's watch.

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Mar 23, 2019 14:11:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Those shovel ready jobs were mostly digging graves for those who committed "suicide" or died, can you say B******i, on the Clinton's watch.




Are you still trying to find something at B******i to pin on Lady Hillary??

That non-issue was tossed out years ago by your own republican party..

find something new to b***h about..

Like, our weakening trade relations.. Deficit problem, closing of brick and mortar stores..
any number of things. the gutting of the EPA, removing sanctions from NK on the orange whim of the day..



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Mar 23, 2019 15:06:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Are you still trying to find something at B******i to pin on Lady Hillary??

That non-issue was tossed out years ago by your own republican party..

find something new to b***h about..

Like, our weakening trade relations.. Deficit problem, closing of brick and mortar stores..
any number of things. the gutting of the EPA, removing sanctions from NK on the orange whim of the day..


I still wonder why so many people involved in the B******i incident were routinely given a weekly polygraph to determine if they were talking. There remains much that is unknown but that which is known says there still needs to be more exposure. Lest we forget, Obama's DOJ never has been forthcoming in releasing data. Hillary got off scott free but at this point, what difference does it make? It makes a great deal of difference.

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Mar 23, 2019 17:09:41   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
I still wonder why so many people involved in the B******i incident were routinely given a weekly polygraph to determine if they were talking. There remains much that is unknown but that which is known says there still needs to be more exposure. Lest we forget, Obama's DOJ never has been forthcoming in releasing data. Hillary got off scott free but at this point, what difference does it make? It makes a great deal of difference.



Mike, It has been greatly over complicated..

If you criticize the DOJ, also criticize Gowdy for trying to introduce false evidence..

"at this point, what difference does it make"---- This foolish statement was made not about the dead Americans, but about the reason for the r**t/attack..

I do not think why matters much, but I felt that way about all the other death at our foreign missions and that got nothing either..



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Mar 23, 2019 20:36:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike, It has been greatly over complicated..

If you criticize the DOJ, also criticize Gowdy for trying to introduce false evidence..

"at this point, what difference does it make"---- This foolish statement was made not about the dead Americans, but about the reason for the r**t/attack..

I do not think why matters much, but I felt that way about all the other death at our foreign missions and that got nothing either..


The dividing factor between B******i and other incidentally me is that Stevens requested additional security 200+ Times. Fixing the entire blame on a movie producer and Obama's National Security going on TV perpetuating the movie lie and they knew it was a lie. Is that poor slob still in jail? The denial of help which could have been dispatched in time. These men were sacrificed and we still do not know why.

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Mar 23, 2019 23:33:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike, It has been greatly over complicated..

If you criticize the DOJ, also criticize Gowdy for trying to introduce false evidence..

"at this point, what difference does it make"---- This foolish statement was made not about the dead Americans, but about the reason for the r**t/attack..

I do not think why matters much, but I felt that way about all the other death at our foreign missions and that got nothing either..


It's like Trump saying there are good people on both sides. He wasn't referring to the white N**i i***ts. He was referring to the issue of removing civil war items from display.

But the anti-Trumps push it to mean he liked the N**i's. Lol!

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