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Mar 20, 2019 23:52:22   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
Seth wrote:
Yes, but many a Democrat seems hell bent on changing that, or AOC, Bernie and others wouldn't have followings.


I’d dare say Bernie with “Ben & Jerry” and AOC, who upset the status quo, are many of Democrats unless it’s a trend of people that care about the health of the environment and tired of same ole nothing getting done.
Here’s an idea from someone that actually served in the White House I think is poignant and more so because this guy in there as president ain’t helping much but himself and friends:

“Isolated in the White House, distrustful of aides, at odds with intelligence agencies, distant from his Cabinet heads, Trump has no system to make or implement decisions.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/reich/amp/ROBERT-REICH-America-is-already-fired-Trump-13644239.php

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Mar 20, 2019 23:55:39   #
Seth
 
markc wrote:
I’d dare say Bernie with “Ben & Jerry” and AOC, who upset the status quo, are many of Democrats unless it’s a trend of people that care about the health of the environment and tired of same ole nothing getting done.
Here’s an idea from someone that actually served in the White House I think is poignant and more so because this guy in there as president ain’t helping much but himself and friends:

“Isolated in the White House, distrustful of aides, at odds with intelligence agencies, distant from his Cabinet heads, Trump has no system to make or implement decisions.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/reich/amp/ROBERT-REICH-America-is-already-fired-Trump-13644239.php
I’d dare say Bernie with “Ben & Jerry” and AO... (show quote)


SF Chronicle is as partisan/anti-Trump as CNN, and Reich as well.

That entire story is pure "progressive" fantasy.

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Mar 21, 2019 00:09:39   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
markc wrote:
I’d dare say Bernie with “Ben & Jerry” and AOC, who upset the status quo, are many of Democrats unless it’s a trend of people that care about the health of the environment and tired of same ole nothing getting done.
Here’s an idea from someone that actually served in the White House I think is poignant and more so because this guy in there as president ain’t helping much but himself and friends:

“Isolated in the White House, distrustful of aides, at odds with intelligence agencies, distant from his Cabinet heads, Trump has no system to make or implement decisions.”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/reich/amp/ROBERT-REICH-America-is-already-fired-Trump-13644239.php
I’d dare say Bernie with “Ben & Jerry” and AO... (show quote)


You are partly correct that the current president can do a lot more damage with his asinine appointments to commissions and agencies that can do vast damage to the interior of our country and Reich failed to point those aspects out.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/reich/article/ROBERT-REICH-America-is-already-fired-Trump-13644239.php



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Mar 21, 2019 00:43:23   #
Seth
 
markc wrote:
You are partly correct that the current president can do a lot more damage with his asinine appointments to commissions and agencies that can do vast damage to the interior of our country and Reich failed to point those aspects out.


There has been one concerted effort by various Democrats and swamp critters to hold a c**p against President Trump because he interrupted the completion of an agenda that was expected to be passed on from Obama to Hillary.

It's not like all that lying is coming from different sources/people/entities. It all comes, by proxy, from the same source. This is not a new tactic, it is a variation on "if you repeat a lie enough times, it eventually is accepted as the t***h."

The mainstream media has been doing that to the president from the beginning, repeating the r****t/xxxophobe/feathering his own nest/"for the rich" lies over and over, so that anyone who doesn't do their own research, depending instead on the MSM for "information," comes to believe the lies.

Meanwhile, the t***h is being weeded out by a number of congressional Republicans, conservative media, Judicial Watch and others, but the same left wing media, swamp critters and politicians who perpetrate the lies completely ignore the evidence being developed regarding collusion between the corrupt Obama/Hillary cabal, certain officials and former officials in the DOJ, FBI, CIA and IRS, including admissions by Peter Strzok and others of skullduggery.

If you think President Trump is going to simply allow himself to be railroaded and go down quietly, you really are naive. Do you think he's just sitting there, waiting for the axe to fall?

You can bet he's got his own strategy working behind the scenes and when the time is right and all his chess pieces, so to speak, are in position, a number of very high profile arrests will be made and the American people will learn the t***h.

Naturally, when that time comes, even after the guilty verdicts and sentences have been handed down, all the same TDSers who live and breathe Trump being impeached and incarcerated will remain in denial, but who cares about a bunch of misguided wannabe socialists, anyway?

Every society has its losers.

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Mar 21, 2019 03:19:30   #
Ricktloml
 
Seth wrote:
Yes, but many a Democrat seems hell bent on changing that, or AOC, Bernie and others wouldn't have followings.


And ALL the Democrat p**********l candidates are trying to out socialism each other. The foolish claim that it "can't happen here" is indeed foolish. Especially if no one will even consider the seriousness of people in power wanting to undermine the Constitution they took an oath to defend and protect. The Democrat/socialist/Marxist/c*******t Party wants power and control, and they thought they were close to getting what they wanted. When the American people rejected their "fundamental t***sformation" the attempt at a political c**p began, and it is ongoing. The left, like evil in general, doesn't quit. And they are so blinded by hatred they are unable to hide their agenda anymore, so they go back to trying to con people into turning over their liberty to them with the false promises of free everything and utopia

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Mar 21, 2019 03:26:20   #
Seth
 
Ricktloml wrote:
And ALL the Democrat p**********l candidates are trying to out socialism each other. The foolish claim that it "can't happen here" is indeed foolish. Especially if no one will even consider the seriousness of people in power wanting to undermine the Constitution they took an oath to defend and protect. The Democrat/socialist/Marxist/c*******t Party wants power and control, and they thought they were close to getting what they wanted. When the American people rejected their "fundamental t***sformation" the attempt at a political c**p began, and it is ongoing. The left, like evil in general, doesn't quit. And they are so blinded by hatred they are unable to hide their agenda anymore, so they go back to trying to con people into turning over their liberty to them with the false promises of free everything and utopia
And ALL the Democrat p**********l candidates are t... (show quote)


Spot-on!

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Mar 21, 2019 22:38:51   #
rumitoid
 
markc wrote:
You are partly correct that the current president can do a lot more damage with his asinine appointments to commissions and agencies that can do vast damage to the interior of our country and Reich failed to point those aspects out.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/reich/article/ROBERT-REICH-America-is-already-fired-Trump-13644239.php


That poster was fun! And sadly true.

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Mar 21, 2019 22:43:02   #
rumitoid
 
Seth wrote:
There has been one concerted effort by various Democrats and swamp critters to hold a c**p against President Trump because he interrupted the completion of an agenda that was expected to be passed on from Obama to Hillary.

It's not like all that lying is coming from different sources/people/entities. It all comes, by proxy, from the same source. This is not a new tactic, it is a variation on "if you repeat a lie enough times, it eventually is accepted as the t***h."

The mainstream media has been doing that to the president from the beginning, repeating the r****t/xxxophobe/feathering his own nest/"for the rich" lies over and over, so that anyone who doesn't do their own research, depending instead on the MSM for "information," comes to believe the lies.

Meanwhile, the t***h is being weeded out by a number of congressional Republicans, conservative media, Judicial Watch and others, but the same left wing media, swamp critters and politicians who perpetrate the lies completely ignore the evidence being developed regarding collusion between the corrupt Obama/Hillary cabal, certain officials and former officials in the DOJ, FBI, CIA and IRS, including admissions by Peter Strzok and others of skullduggery.

If you think President Trump is going to simply allow himself to be railroaded and go down quietly, you really are naive. Do you think he's just sitting there, waiting for the axe to fall?

You can bet he's got his own strategy working behind the scenes and when the time is right and all his chess pieces, so to speak, are in position, a number of very high profile arrests will be made and the American people will learn the t***h.

Naturally, when that time comes, even after the guilty verdicts and sentences have been handed down, all the same TDSers who live and breathe Trump being impeached and incarcerated will remain in denial, but who cares about a bunch of misguided wannabe socialists, anyway?

Every society has its losers.
There has been one concerted effort by various Dem... (show quote)


Seth, you really need to think for yourself or maybe just take a breath. How wide ranging are your conspiracy theories? Throughout your posts you plant these unfounded accusations, tweak the t***h, and seem to just lie. Make a point by being more concise and using support.

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Mar 21, 2019 23:32:00   #
Seth
 
rumitoid wrote:
Seth, you really need to think for yourself or maybe just take a breath. How wide ranging are your conspiracy theories? Throughout your posts you plant these unfounded accusations, tweak the t***h, and seem to just lie. Make a point by being more concise and using support.


Actually, if you took the time to do some reading in the conservative media arena, you might find quite a bit of accurate news reporting -- facts completely overlooked by the MSM because they quite literally don't want anyone to believe that anything might be occuring that might dilute the purity of their narrative -- that details evidence being unearthed, including some by Obama FBI and DOJ officials testifying under oath, that much of what you refer to as "conspiracy theories" is actually reality.

Certain individuals like Peter Strzok, caught out by revelations that prevent them from the rendering of obfuscation or fabrications, are having to tell the t***h, and that has led to additional revelations.

If you paid attention to more than that which agrees with your preferred version of reality you would learn that virtually all of the anti-Trump narrative and the questionable means by which it was compiled has been unraveling for some time, from the details of the now infamous FISA warrant application to the roles played by various officials working under the auspices of the Obama Administration.

Much of this has been documented and/or linked to right here at OPP, including some excellent, lengthy, detailed posts by EagleEye, but it doesn't seem like you folks over on the port side put even an iota of effort into giving any of it more than a glance.

Conversely, I put in a goodly amount of effort into reading articles from the left side of the equation, and there I find a lot of "information" for which, unlike on the starboard side of things, there is a paucity of, if any at all, actual empirical evidence.

I am not a "conspiracy theory" guy, I am an analytical type for whom evidence is important, not only what I read, but what I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears as well, and disseminating evidence is more than a hobby for me, it's long been an occupational sk**l, as has spotting lies when I watch someone being questioned, as in congressional investigation hearings.

All that long winded stuff out of the way, I would recommend keeping an open mind when the unraveling is done and legal action is taken once the whole t***h has been exposed.

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Mar 22, 2019 01:51:26   #
rumitoid
 
Seth wrote:
Actually, if you took the time to do some reading in the conservative media arena, you might find quite a bit of accurate news reporting -- facts completely overlooked by the MSM because they quite literally don't want anyone to believe that anything might be occuring that might dilute the purity of their narrative -- that details evidence being unearthed, including some by Obama FBI and DOJ officials testifying under oath, that much of what you refer to as "conspiracy theories" is actually reality.

Certain individuals like Peter Strzok, caught out by revelations that prevent them from the rendering of obfuscation or fabrications, are having to tell the t***h, and that has led to additional revelations.

If you paid attention to more than that which agrees with your preferred version of reality you would learn that virtually all of the anti-Trump narrative and the questionable means by which it was compiled has been unraveling for some time, from the details of the now infamous FISA warrant application to the roles played by various officials working under the auspices of the Obama Administration.

Much of this has been documented and/or linked to right here at OPP, including some excellent, lengthy, detailed posts by EagleEye, but it doesn't seem like you folks over on the port side put even an iota of effort into giving any of it more than a glance.

Conversely, I put in a goodly amount of effort into reading articles from the left side of the equation, and there I find a lot of "information" for which, unlike on the starboard side of things, there is a paucity of, if any at all, actual empirical evidence.

I am not a "conspiracy theory" guy, I am an analytical type for whom evidence is important, not only what I read, but what I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears as well, and disseminating evidence is more than a hobby for me, it's long been an occupational sk**l, as has spotting lies when I watch someone being questioned, as in congressional investigation hearings.

All that long winded stuff out of the way, I would recommend keeping an open mind when the unraveling is done and legal action is taken once the whole t***h has been exposed.
Actually, if you took the time to do some reading ... (show quote)

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Mar 22, 2019 02:20:33   #
Ricktloml
 
Seth wrote:
Actually, if you took the time to do some reading in the conservative media arena, you might find quite a bit of accurate news reporting -- facts completely overlooked by the MSM because they quite literally don't want anyone to believe that anything might be occuring that might dilute the purity of their narrative -- that details evidence being unearthed, including some by Obama FBI and DOJ officials testifying under oath, that much of what you refer to as "conspiracy theories" is actually reality.

Certain individuals like Peter Strzok, caught out by revelations that prevent them from the rendering of obfuscation or fabrications, are having to tell the t***h, and that has led to additional revelations.

If you paid attention to more than that which agrees with your preferred version of reality you would learn that virtually all of the anti-Trump narrative and the questionable means by which it was compiled has been unraveling for some time, from the details of the now infamous FISA warrant application to the roles played by various officials working under the auspices of the Obama Administration.

Much of this has been documented and/or linked to right here at OPP, including some excellent, lengthy, detailed posts by EagleEye, but it doesn't seem like you folks over on the port side put even an iota of effort into giving any of it more than a glance.

Conversely, I put in a goodly amount of effort into reading articles from the left side of the equation, and there I find a lot of "information" for which, unlike on the starboard side of things, there is a paucity of, if any at all, actual empirical evidence.

I am not a "conspiracy theory" guy, I am an analytical type for whom evidence is important, not only what I read, but what I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears as well, and disseminating evidence is more than a hobby for me, it's long been an occupational sk**l, as has spotting lies when I watch someone being questioned, as in congressional investigation hearings.

All that long winded stuff out of the way, I would recommend keeping an open mind when the unraveling is done and legal action is taken once the whole t***h has been exposed.
Actually, if you took the time to do some reading ... (show quote)


The evidence of the ongoing attempted c**p is text messages, e-mails, sworn testimony, whistle-blowers, informants, official documents, and more. The ongoing false narratives being pushed by the abusively biased, agenda driven media are predicated on anonymous sources, unnamed former intelligence agents, (many of whom were part of this corruption and abuse of power,) "trusted" compatriots in the "news" business. And as the transcripts from the closed door interviews of Obama's operatives and appointees, (like Bruce Orh, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and others,) in his weaponized intelligence and laws enforcement agencies are made public, (even with the abusively biased media refusing to cover the contents,) more and more Americans will finally see the evidence of this c**p. Attempting to overturn an e******n and unseat a duly elected president should outrage EVERY American. It is sickening that there are so many who are just fine with this travesty because that president is Donald Trump. But this is what you get when people are blinded by h**e. And the left, (the Democrat Party, academia, Hollywood and the laughably called mainstream media,) stoke that hatred on a daily basis.

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Mar 22, 2019 05:08:47   #
Seth
 
Ricktloml wrote:
The evidence of the ongoing attempted c**p is text messages, e-mails, sworn testimony, whistle-blowers, informants, official documents, and more. The ongoing false narratives being pushed by the abusively biased, agenda driven media are predicated on anonymous sources, unnamed former intelligence agents, (many of whom were part of this corruption and abuse of power,) "trusted" compatriots in the "news" business. And as the transcripts from the closed door interviews of Obama's operatives and appointees, (like Bruce Orh, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and others,) in his weaponized intelligence and laws enforcement agencies are made public, (even with the abusively biased media refusing to cover the contents,) more and more Americans will finally see the evidence of this c**p. Attempting to overturn an e******n and unseat a duly elected president should outrage EVERY American. It is sickening that there are so many who are just fine with this travesty because that president is Donald Trump. But this is what you get when people are blinded by h**e. And the left, (the Democrat Party, academia, Hollywood and the laughably called mainstream media,) stoke that hatred on a daily basis.
The evidence of the ongoing attempted c**p is text... (show quote)


Well put.

That TDS borne hatred is going to go into overdrive when the Democrats begin seeing "their heroes" becoming the defendants in federal criminal trials as President Trump continues on in his second term.

Many a therapist will enjoy a full calendar, safe spaces will be overcrowded, the singing of "Kumbaya" will be heard in all "liberal" enclaves and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in Progressivesville.

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Mar 22, 2019 20:35:21   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Seth wrote:
Certain individuals like Peter Strzok, caught out by revelations that prevent them from the rendering of obfuscation or fabrications, are having to tell the t***h, and that has led to additional revelations.

I think it reveals a lot that they have to be forced to tell the t***h. Since when was telling the t***h a bad thing?

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Mar 22, 2019 22:03:35   #
Seth
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I think it reveals a lot that they have to be forced to tell the t***h. Since when was telling the t***h a bad thing?


From their point of view, when telling the t***h can unravel a chain of events leading to indictments for treason-related felonies.

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Mar 22, 2019 22:18:32   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Seth wrote:
From their point of view, when telling the t***h can unravel a chain of events leading to indictments for treason-related felonies.

Mmm-hmm. Reveals a lot, doesn't it?

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