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Mar 12, 2019 16:11:03   #
JoyV
 
Airforceone wrote:
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put states and classes of people in my insults. I want to apologize to all OPP readers and Bloggers. I should should not have attacked all right wing bloggers because of the insults from a few.

I got invovled in the whole h**e and d******eness on OPP. When all these insults were lodged at me I responded with insults. But it was only the actions of a few which I refused to name these people.

The insults against me were generated by 4 bloggers that attacked me with personal insults denigrated my son and threaten me personally.

As I think back as to when all my h**e and insults started. It started when Congress under Obama first started debating Obamacare. My son has an incurable Kidney disease and he was at that time living in the state of Florida. His medical cost were growing as the disease advanced but he continued to work and coach youth hockey. He had a employee based Medical insurance which picked up 80% of his cost but 20% was still putting a major burden on his finances. So he moved in with me so we as a family could better manage his medical cost.

My son is single and my wife passed away at the age of 47 of pancreatic cancer.

Then came the worst thing that could happen his boss called him in and said he had to let him go because the insurance provider was going to increase his cost on the employee based system. So living in Florida and no worker protection my son now has no job and no insurance. His yearly income was $75,000 a year plus quarterly bonuses in 2009.

So this was okay because he is a very talented guy and could get another job, pay the COBRA till his new job picked up his insurance premium. Wrong when he applied for a new job guess what the first question at his interview is (WHY DID YOUR LAST EMPLOYER LET YOU GO AFTER 9 years)
Yes sir my last employer let me go because I have a kidney disease and his insurance premiums were going up because of my medical cost. (INTERVIEW ENDED) Now how do you get a job.

So again no problem my son begain an attempt at getting medical insurance on his own. Wrong again there was no insurance provider in this country that would give him insurance at any cost. (PRE-EXISTING CONDITION) ( THIS ALL OCCURED PRIOR TO THE ACA)

So no job no insurance and medical bills rising. But what I did was set up with his primary care physician and his specialist a payment plan. One of his biggest cost was medication. Then periodic hospital stays for 2 or 3 days I also requested payment plans.

So no job no insurance and under these payment plans the cost was anywhere from $3000 to $3,500 a month (THIS WAS PRIOR TO HIM GOING ON DIALYSIS) this does not include medication which varied from month to month between $800 to $1500 CVS has no payment plans. And yes I explained to OPP bloggers that I was financially sound and was able to pay these medical cost so my son could keep his doctors, and specialist. But it was beginning to drain my retirement funds and it wasn’t looking good for me so I had to resign from the private golf club sell my home and downsize. Now after playing golf 5 times a week to playing 5 times a month. But it was an easy decision.

Then Obamacare was passed and like I said I followed the Obamacare legislation from start to finish. I believe that nobody on OPP understands Obamacare as I do. I followed it through the legislation process, I read all the CBO reports as to cost. I studied the Massachusetts Affordable care act passed by Republican Gov Mitt Romney and a democratic legislators.

When Obamacare became law I was very excited. When the first open enrollment started I went on the Government web site and started to reseach the different providers and the level of insurance my son could get.

I picked up the phone and called the government provided specialist and having a lot of knowledge about Obamacare I was able to ask my questions and how the whole process worked. When I got off the phone and having full knowledge of the different programs available was able to get a 80% policy, with $10 co-pays for primary care, $5 co-pays for medications $100 co-pays for specialist with a $750 deductiable for hospitalization. The cost was $385 a month and absolutly no government subsidies. Still incuring major cost with a 80% policy.

I explained this on OPP and was met with insults a government taker my son was a fraud, liar and also the fact I was financially sound comments like pay your own medical bills and stop living off the government. I was called a Marxist, C*******t, and the right wing favorite socialist. (SORRY I GOT VERY ANGRY AND OVER THE YEARS BEGAN TO ATTACK ANY RIGHT WING BLOGGER AND IT CONTINUED OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS YOU PEOPLE DID NOT DESERVE THE KIND OF INSULTS THAT I HAVE MADE) But I want all right wing bloggers to know it was only a few and I attacked, denigrated all right wing bloggers. (I WAS WRONG)

I have read every topic every blog about Obamacare and having full knowledge of Obamacare it became very frustrating for me to read the misinformation about Obamacare and when I attempted to explain and try to get the proper information posted on Obamacare the insults just kept coming and they never stopped.

The ACA/Obamacare was a massive piece of legislation it’s not something you will understand by reading it Once. Over the years I heard how the misinformation train by right wing bloggers that had there own perception on Obamacare but (PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY) It all started with misinformation on the following topics in Obamacare.
(Mandate) (Insurance pools) (Keep your Doctor) (You can keep your insurance provider) ( PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS) (Cancelled policies) (Acused Obama from stealing $750 billion from Medicare) (Obamacare premiums rising) (Doctors refusing patients covered by Obamacare) (DEATH PANELS) (How can republicans v**e on a bill when they only had 24 hours to review) (This bill had 7000 pages) (Insurance company networks) all misinformation as to how Obamacare works. It was without a doubt the biggest misinformation campaign by the Right wing media, conspiracy theorist, Republican legislators this country has ever seen. I am not denying that there are problems with Obamacare so fix the problems. Not everything in Obamacare is bad. But for the right wing to just continue with repeal with no replacement as promised. With the Trump promise of creating new healthcare legislation giving all Americans affordable health insurance but first you have to repeal the ACA. Well that clearly will not happen.

So over the years I was attempting to explain how Obamacare functioned and explain the misinformation about the above topics. Let me explain just one example. Sarah Phalin coined the phrase death panels, and Doctors refusing coverage all due to Obamacare.

Death panels that was so obsurd, that so called death panel was a $225 allowance to meet with your doctor to be informed what was the best plan for your family. My son used that $225 and it was one of the best meetings he had because he had full knowledge as to best pick out a policy that would address his daily medical treatment and his long term medical care as his disease was never going to get better.
Then when my son choose the BC/BS platinum policy he got a phone call from his specialist that he would no longer be able to treat him because of his insurance policy. Well having full knowlege of Obamacare I called the specialist and asked why. What I got for an answer was he received a letter from the insurance company that they would no longer cover my son’s health cost. I thought that was strange because his policy was covered by all other doctors and hospitals. So I called BC/BS and what they told me was that this specialist was not signatory with there network of providers. So I got the name of there network of providers called my son’s specialist back and told him why they refused payment and the doctors office asked for the name of the network the doctor then signed onto that network and my son was able to keep his doctor. There are many networks set up by providers. But how many people just except this type of issue and don’t Follow up as to (WHY) I fixed that issue within a few hours. But not understanding Obamacare, Not understanding provider networks people just except this type of wrongdoing and the right wing blamed these cancelations on Obamacare. It was amazing to me reading right wing bloggers complaining about there doctors canceling them. When all it took was a simple phone call and problem corrected. These provider networks were in place long before Obamacare if you remember when HMO’s first came out.

Now over the years explaining to the the bloggers on OPP that post misinformation I was met with some of the most nasty insults you could imagine and I got mad and forgot who I was and went on the attack. I was told I was a liar and never read Obamacare. If it meant your son’s life (WOULD YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND OBAMACARE THE WAY I HAVE)

I have been battling this for over 10 years now. I have battled the state of Florida when Rick Scott the governor illegally allowed insurance providers to create high risk pools which was illegal. If Rick Scott got what he wanted and many OPP bloggers agreed with High Risk pools my son’s premiums would have gone up to $9,500 a month. But that was a way that insurance providers could cancel your policy and stay within the laws of the set by Obamacare that you could not cancel your policy. As it turned out Rick Scott did this illegally. But during the 3 months of this battle my son was on peritoneal home dialysis where it cost $11,500 a month just for the dialysis medication. I had to pick up that cost for two months. But when it was ruled illegal I was reimbursed.

So there has been many bumps in the road over the last 10 years. I am not looking for sympathy because there are over 40 million people in this country that battled the same issues as my family has gone through without having medical insurance in different degrees.

But my son who now is fully employed has a great job earning over $100,000 a year with a employee base medical insurance and purchased a supplemental policy through Medicare and pays the premium because of his earnings. My son, my family, and myself have never asked for government subsidies we dealt with it as a family. All we ever wanted was to have the ability to purchase medical insurance.

My son goes to dialysis 3 times a week, he works 40 to 50 hours a week, He still coaches an elite hockey team for 16 to 17 years of age. With his contacts in hockey because he played college hockey he has been able to help Florida teenagers get hooked up with the northeast juniors program and get scholarships to Division one college teams. He also has many contacts on the devision 2 college teams and this less talented players were able to go to college and play hockey.

(MY SON NOW HAS TWO YEARS TO RECIEVE A KIDNEY T***SPLANT BEFORE HE GOES INTO TOTAL RENAL FAILURE THEN HE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE) But it is just not happening in Florida due to the regulation of the t***splant centers in Florida. Another daily battle where my son has to text his blood pressure everyday and don’t forget To do it because they take you off the list. If your blood pressure rises they take you off the list, if you get the flu your off the list. But unknown to my son was when they take you off the list you have to re-Apply.

But I had no right denigrating all the right wing bloggers and denigrating all those southern red states that refused the Medicaid expansion. ( I JUST HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IN SOME SMALL WAY WHY I GOT ANGRY AND HAD ALL THIS BUILT UP H**E BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ME.)
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put... (show quote)


Thank you for this fine explanation.

I believe you when you say that Obamacare worked well for your son. But surely you do not believe this is always the case. In my state, AZ, most insurance providers simply abandoned the state after their profits declined under Obamacare. This left some counties with a single provider and others with none. I have also heard from friends and family in other states (without the problem of providers) tell me their costs skyrocketed. Obamacare was neither good for all nor bad for all. I have not done your research so cannot say whether the overall good outweighed the overall bad.

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Mar 12, 2019 16:14:21   #
JediKnight
 
JoyV wrote:
Thank you for this fine explanation.

I believe you when you say that Obamacare worked well for your son. But surely you do not believe this is always the case. In my state, AZ, most insurance providers simply abandoned the state after their profits declined under Obamacare. This left some counties with a single provider and others with none. I have also heard from friends and family in other states (without the problem of providers) tell me their costs skyrocketed. Obamacare was neither good for all nor bad for all. I have not done your research so cannot say whether the overall good outweighed the overall bad.
Thank you for this fine explanation. br br I be... (show quote)


Joy: you and so many others seemed to have missed that the only reason that ACA care went up was that the republicans pulled the funding that would have made it affordable for everyone. So quit blaming Obama for what the republicans did.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:21:18   #
woodguru
 
JediKnight wrote:
Joy: you and so many others seemed to have missed that the only reason that ACA care went up was that the republicans pulled the funding that would have made it affordable for everyone. So quit blaming Obama for what the republicans did.


Exactly, the instability of where the GOP was going in state by state instances caused the instability in whether insurance companies were willing to stay in states or what they did with their policies.

California, my wife's Kaiser plan... 2016... $350mo, 2017... $900mo, 2018... $950mo

Sort of says it all, republicans are monkeying up a good thing rather than tuning it up like it could have been.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:32:34   #
woodguru
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Are 'greedy corporations' the true culprit in your scenario? My thoughts are, is it not the people in our bloated government approving these contracts and purchases? Maybe a little more scrutiny should be placed on them.


Yes, but blame and solution does not follow a put the blame on the politicians scenario. Lobbyists write their plans and politicians make them so, but the bottom line is that if the government does not have the ability to have any say in what a pharmaceutical company arbitrarily wants to charge, arbitrarily decides it will charge.

A new company can come out with a chemo drug to do the same thing another one does that costs $50,000 a week for $500, and the bigger company pays them $500 million for their drug and takes it off the market because they are making a billion a week.

Many do not know this, but the last 212 products approved by the FDA were developed with government funding, and if government research and development funds were used the government does have a right to regulate profits to some sense of reasonable standard.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:38:51   #
woodguru
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Your statements are true to a point, however the dreaded IRS isn't the benevolent agency you are portraying. The IRS has confiscatory powers not granted to any other agency in government, which can be invoked on a whim by an IRS agent who might be having a bad day. I guess I'm a tax c***t because I made purchases online with tax not being charged and I didn't report them to my home state. I'm far from wealthy, was a 'working class' guy trucking all lower 48 states for 50+ years and my accountant was a good lady, declaring every possible deduction due me, however in my 55 years of filing I'm sure some errors occurred, but I wouldn't want the draconian IRS going after her.
Your statements are true to a point, however the d... (show quote)


A lot of people don't know this, but the way the IRS operates today is night and day different from what it used to be. They used to hire what seemed like the meanest nastiest people on earth to badger people who were delinquent. Now they are extremely easy to work with.

People who have not paid their taxes aren't going to like the IRS, nobody likes being fined and forced to catch up to arrears. But the bottom line is pay your taxes and you won't have to worry about it.

The thing I think should change is the way people are treated differently depending on how much they are behind. The person who is a few thousand behind will end up paying most of it, the person who is $200 grand behind can easily hire an attorney and have it reduced to ten or twenty grand.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:49:53   #
JoyV
 
JediKnight wrote:
Joy: you and so many others seemed to have missed that the only reason that ACA care went up was that the republicans pulled the funding that would have made it affordable for everyone. So quit blaming Obama for what the republicans did.


Where do you think government funding comes from. Either there is lots of funding, paid for by working Americans through their taxes, or there is less funding so the plan must be paid for individually by working Americans. In either case, it is working Americans who pay!

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Mar 12, 2019 18:52:55   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
Exactly, the instability of where the GOP was going in state by state instances caused the instability in whether insurance companies were willing to stay in states or what they did with their policies.

California, my wife's Kaiser plan... 2016... $350mo, 2017... $900mo, 2018... $950mo

Sort of says it all, republicans are monkeying up a good thing rather than tuning it up like it could have been.


The increase in cost, and the abandonment of insurance companies happened BEFORE the 2016 e******n in many states, as it was in my state. But now my state again has insurance coverage available in rural counties.

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Mar 12, 2019 18:53:32   #
bahmer
 
JoyV wrote:
Where do you think government funding comes from. Either there is lots of funding, paid for by working Americans through their taxes, or there is less funding so the plan must be paid for individually by working Americans. In either case, it is working Americans who pay!


Remember that the federal government has no money the only money that the federal government has is by taxing it's citizens and if they all refused to pay their taxes the federal government would go broke in short order.

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Mar 12, 2019 21:51:24   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Noraa wrote:
Your story brought me to tears. I am sorry if I ever said anything horrible to you but I don't think I have. I can understand your anger even if others here don't. I hope and pray for your son and we can all have discussions on this sight whether we agree with one another or not. If we never listen to the other side we never learn. Peace out!!


This post by this Lady whom could be after my own heart has the last two sentences as level headed as they come,thank you. while normally it is a hard thing to do * tug heart strings * this airforceone definitely did. I can only imagine going through the hell he went thru.i too read and still read the posts.
it does the heart well to see an attempt to be civil.it truly is how things are done,often times in Discovery finding out how others think brings other things to those wonderful ah ha moments many times .
although the same can be said on the other end of the spectrum. all anyone can do is try.
~ excellent ~ posts both. 👍🏻

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Mar 12, 2019 22:17:23   #
Airforceone
 
byronglimish wrote:
There is nothing positive or productive that could result from a i*****l a***n debate between you and I....

I*****l a***ns already v**e in local Cal bay area e******ns.

Massachusetts is v****g to let i******s v**e, and yes, I do believe that some places register i******s to v**e at the DMV.


I guess there’s no way to break through that perception. Except to pick you up and grab an illegal bring him to MA. And prove your wrong. So if that’s what you want to believe that’s fine.

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Mar 12, 2019 22:25:48   #
maryjane
 
Airforceone wrote:
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put states and classes of people in my insults. I want to apologize to all OPP readers and Bloggers. I should should not have attacked all right wing bloggers because of the insults from a few.

I got invovled in the whole h**e and d******eness on OPP. When all these insults were lodged at me I responded with insults. But it was only the actions of a few which I refused to name these people.

The insults against me were generated by 4 bloggers that attacked me with personal insults denigrated my son and threaten me personally.

As I think back as to when all my h**e and insults started. It started when Congress under Obama first started debating Obamacare. My son has an incurable Kidney disease and he was at that time living in the state of Florida. His medical cost were growing as the disease advanced but he continued to work and coach youth hockey. He had a employee based Medical insurance which picked up 80% of his cost but 20% was still putting a major burden on his finances. So he moved in with me so we as a family could better manage his medical cost.

My son is single and my wife passed away at the age of 47 of pancreatic cancer.

Then came the worst thing that could happen his boss called him in and said he had to let him go because the insurance provider was going to increase his cost on the employee based system. So living in Florida and no worker protection my son now has no job and no insurance. His yearly income was $75,000 a year plus quarterly bonuses in 2009.

So this was okay because he is a very talented guy and could get another job, pay the COBRA till his new job picked up his insurance premium. Wrong when he applied for a new job guess what the first question at his interview is (WHY DID YOUR LAST EMPLOYER LET YOU GO AFTER 9 years)
Yes sir my last employer let me go because I have a kidney disease and his insurance premiums were going up because of my medical cost. (INTERVIEW ENDED) Now how do you get a job.

So again no problem my son begain an attempt at getting medical insurance on his own. Wrong again there was no insurance provider in this country that would give him insurance at any cost. (PRE-EXISTING CONDITION) ( THIS ALL OCCURED PRIOR TO THE ACA)

So no job no insurance and medical bills rising. But what I did was set up with his primary care physician and his specialist a payment plan. One of his biggest cost was medication. Then periodic hospital stays for 2 or 3 days I also requested payment plans.

So no job no insurance and under these payment plans the cost was anywhere from $3000 to $3,500 a month (THIS WAS PRIOR TO HIM GOING ON DIALYSIS) this does not include medication which varied from month to month between $800 to $1500 CVS has no payment plans. And yes I explained to OPP bloggers that I was financially sound and was able to pay these medical cost so my son could keep his doctors, and specialist. But it was beginning to drain my retirement funds and it wasn’t looking good for me so I had to resign from the private golf club sell my home and downsize. Now after playing golf 5 times a week to playing 5 times a month. But it was an easy decision.

Then Obamacare was passed and like I said I followed the Obamacare legislation from start to finish. I believe that nobody on OPP understands Obamacare as I do. I followed it through the legislation process, I read all the CBO reports as to cost. I studied the Massachusetts Affordable care act passed by Republican Gov Mitt Romney and a democratic legislators.

When Obamacare became law I was very excited. When the first open enrollment started I went on the Government web site and started to reseach the different providers and the level of insurance my son could get.

I picked up the phone and called the government provided specialist and having a lot of knowledge about Obamacare I was able to ask my questions and how the whole process worked. When I got off the phone and having full knowledge of the different programs available was able to get a 80% policy, with $10 co-pays for primary care, $5 co-pays for medications $100 co-pays for specialist with a $750 deductiable for hospitalization. The cost was $385 a month and absolutly no government subsidies. Still incuring major cost with a 80% policy.

I explained this on OPP and was met with insults a government taker my son was a fraud, liar and also the fact I was financially sound comments like pay your own medical bills and stop living off the government. I was called a Marxist, C*******t, and the right wing favorite socialist. (SORRY I GOT VERY ANGRY AND OVER THE YEARS BEGAN TO ATTACK ANY RIGHT WING BLOGGER AND IT CONTINUED OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS YOU PEOPLE DID NOT DESERVE THE KIND OF INSULTS THAT I HAVE MADE) But I want all right wing bloggers to know it was only a few and I attacked, denigrated all right wing bloggers. (I WAS WRONG)

I have read every topic every blog about Obamacare and having full knowledge of Obamacare it became very frustrating for me to read the misinformation about Obamacare and when I attempted to explain and try to get the proper information posted on Obamacare the insults just kept coming and they never stopped.

The ACA/Obamacare was a massive piece of legislation it’s not something you will understand by reading it Once. Over the years I heard how the misinformation train by right wing bloggers that had there own perception on Obamacare but (PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY) It all started with misinformation on the following topics in Obamacare.
(Mandate) (Insurance pools) (Keep your Doctor) (You can keep your insurance provider) ( PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS) (Cancelled policies) (Acused Obama from stealing $750 billion from Medicare) (Obamacare premiums rising) (Doctors refusing patients covered by Obamacare) (DEATH PANELS) (How can republicans v**e on a bill when they only had 24 hours to review) (This bill had 7000 pages) (Insurance company networks) all misinformation as to how Obamacare works. It was without a doubt the biggest misinformation campaign by the Right wing media, conspiracy theorist, Republican legislators this country has ever seen. I am not denying that there are problems with Obamacare so fix the problems. Not everything in Obamacare is bad. But for the right wing to just continue with repeal with no replacement as promised. With the Trump promise of creating new healthcare legislation giving all Americans affordable health insurance but first you have to repeal the ACA. Well that clearly will not happen.

So over the years I was attempting to explain how Obamacare functioned and explain the misinformation about the above topics. Let me explain just one example. Sarah Phalin coined the phrase death panels, and Doctors refusing coverage all due to Obamacare.

Death panels that was so obsurd, that so called death panel was a $225 allowance to meet with your doctor to be informed what was the best plan for your family. My son used that $225 and it was one of the best meetings he had because he had full knowledge as to best pick out a policy that would address his daily medical treatment and his long term medical care as his disease was never going to get better.
Then when my son choose the BC/BS platinum policy he got a phone call from his specialist that he would no longer be able to treat him because of his insurance policy. Well having full knowlege of Obamacare I called the specialist and asked why. What I got for an answer was he received a letter from the insurance company that they would no longer cover my son’s health cost. I thought that was strange because his policy was covered by all other doctors and hospitals. So I called BC/BS and what they told me was that this specialist was not signatory with there network of providers. So I got the name of there network of providers called my son’s specialist back and told him why they refused payment and the doctors office asked for the name of the network the doctor then signed onto that network and my son was able to keep his doctor. There are many networks set up by providers. But how many people just except this type of issue and don’t Follow up as to (WHY) I fixed that issue within a few hours. But not understanding Obamacare, Not understanding provider networks people just except this type of wrongdoing and the right wing blamed these cancelations on Obamacare. It was amazing to me reading right wing bloggers complaining about there doctors canceling them. When all it took was a simple phone call and problem corrected. These provider networks were in place long before Obamacare if you remember when HMO’s first came out.

Now over the years explaining to the the bloggers on OPP that post misinformation I was met with some of the most nasty insults you could imagine and I got mad and forgot who I was and went on the attack. I was told I was a liar and never read Obamacare. If it meant your son’s life (WOULD YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND OBAMACARE THE WAY I HAVE)

I have been battling this for over 10 years now. I have battled the state of Florida when Rick Scott the governor illegally allowed insurance providers to create high risk pools which was illegal. If Rick Scott got what he wanted and many OPP bloggers agreed with High Risk pools my son’s premiums would have gone up to $9,500 a month. But that was a way that insurance providers could cancel your policy and stay within the laws of the set by Obamacare that you could not cancel your policy. As it turned out Rick Scott did this illegally. But during the 3 months of this battle my son was on peritoneal home dialysis where it cost $11,500 a month just for the dialysis medication. I had to pick up that cost for two months. But when it was ruled illegal I was reimbursed.

So there has been many bumps in the road over the last 10 years. I am not looking for sympathy because there are over 40 million people in this country that battled the same issues as my family has gone through without having medical insurance in different degrees.

But my son who now is fully employed has a great job earning over $100,000 a year with a employee base medical insurance and purchased a supplemental policy through Medicare and pays the premium because of his earnings. My son, my family, and myself have never asked for government subsidies we dealt with it as a family. All we ever wanted was to have the ability to purchase medical insurance.

My son goes to dialysis 3 times a week, he works 40 to 50 hours a week, He still coaches an elite hockey team for 16 to 17 years of age. With his contacts in hockey because he played college hockey he has been able to help Florida teenagers get hooked up with the northeast juniors program and get scholarships to Division one college teams. He also has many contacts on the devision 2 college teams and this less talented players were able to go to college and play hockey.

(MY SON NOW HAS TWO YEARS TO RECIEVE A KIDNEY T***SPLANT BEFORE HE GOES INTO TOTAL RENAL FAILURE THEN HE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE) But it is just not happening in Florida due to the regulation of the t***splant centers in Florida. Another daily battle where my son has to text his blood pressure everyday and don’t forget To do it because they take you off the list. If your blood pressure rises they take you off the list, if you get the flu your off the list. But unknown to my son was when they take you off the list you have to re-Apply.

But I had no right denigrating all the right wing bloggers and denigrating all those southern red states that refused the Medicaid expansion. ( I JUST HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IN SOME SMALL WAY WHY I GOT ANGRY AND HAD ALL THIS BUILT UP H**E BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ME.)
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put... (show quote)


I am so sorry about your and your son's troubles, so sorry people were unkind to you and criticized without understanding. I am not at all knowledgeable about Obama care. I have read many comments about it and gather that it was extremely beneficial for some, not so much for others. I gathered that, once again our congress did not do their job and passed a bill without knowing or understanding what was in it, instead of taking the time to understand and get it right for everyone. You and your son were fortunate that things worked out and I am glad for that. Great hopes for a t***splant.

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Mar 12, 2019 22:50:35   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
I’m not “right wing” as I h**e any stereotypes, but this tugged at my heart and I agree 100%. President Lincoln once stated that a nation divided will not stand. I have been angered over the last 9-10 year in Tennessee that a Republican Governor consistently pushed for exapanding Medicaid but the republican state senate and congress would have nothing of it and left 280,000 “working poor” without insurance because it was Obamacare. No alternatives and now the result is Tennessee has the most rural hospitals closures than any other state per capita. Only Texas has more but they have more people...God save us. For the unbelievers, here’s a couple of links:

https://amp.tennessean.com/amp/2118872002

“Copper Basin is one of 83 rural hospitals that closed from 2010 to 2017, according to the North Carolina Rural Health Research Program. Tennessee is second only to Texas in the number of rural hospital closures, with eight shutting down since 2012 and another half dozen in deep financial trouble.”

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/indepth/rural-hospital-closure-tennessee-leaves-town-scrambling/

Thank you, Airforceone, for helping the unknowledgeable

Airforceone wrote:
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put states and classes of people in my insults. I want to apologize to all OPP readers and Bloggers. I should should not have attacked all right wing bloggers because of the insults from a few.

I got invovled in the whole h**e and d******eness on OPP. When all these insults were lodged at me I responded with insults. But it was only the actions of a few which I refused to name these people.

The insults against me were generated by 4 bloggers that attacked me with personal insults denigrated my son and threaten me personally.

As I think back as to when all my h**e and insults started. It started when Congress under Obama first started debating Obamacare. My son has an incurable Kidney disease and he was at that time living in the state of Florida. His medical cost were growing as the disease advanced but he continued to work and coach youth hockey. He had a employee based Medical insurance which picked up 80% of his cost but 20% was still putting a major burden on his finances. So he moved in with me so we as a family could better manage his medical cost.

My son is single and my wife passed away at the age of 47 of pancreatic cancer.

Then came the worst thing that could happen his boss called him in and said he had to let him go because the insurance provider was going to increase his cost on the employee based system. So living in Florida and no worker protection my son now has no job and no insurance. His yearly income was $75,000 a year plus quarterly bonuses in 2009.

So this was okay because he is a very talented guy and could get another job, pay the COBRA till his new job picked up his insurance premium. Wrong when he applied for a new job guess what the first question at his interview is (WHY DID YOUR LAST EMPLOYER LET YOU GO AFTER 9 years)
Yes sir my last employer let me go because I have a kidney disease and his insurance premiums were going up because of my medical cost. (INTERVIEW ENDED) Now how do you get a job.

So again no problem my son begain an attempt at getting medical insurance on his own. Wrong again there was no insurance provider in this country that would give him insurance at any cost. (PRE-EXISTING CONDITION) ( THIS ALL OCCURED PRIOR TO THE ACA)

So no job no insurance and medical bills rising. But what I did was set up with his primary care physician and his specialist a payment plan. One of his biggest cost was medication. Then periodic hospital stays for 2 or 3 days I also requested payment plans.

So no job no insurance and under these payment plans the cost was anywhere from $3000 to $3,500 a month (THIS WAS PRIOR TO HIM GOING ON DIALYSIS) this does not include medication which varied from month to month between $800 to $1500 CVS has no payment plans. And yes I explained to OPP bloggers that I was financially sound and was able to pay these medical cost so my son could keep his doctors, and specialist. But it was beginning to drain my retirement funds and it wasn’t looking good for me so I had to resign from the private golf club sell my home and downsize. Now after playing golf 5 times a week to playing 5 times a month. But it was an easy decision.

Then Obamacare was passed and like I said I followed the Obamacare legislation from start to finish. I believe that nobody on OPP understands Obamacare as I do. I followed it through the legislation process, I read all the CBO reports as to cost. I studied the Massachusetts Affordable care act passed by Republican Gov Mitt Romney and a democratic legislators.

When Obamacare became law I was very excited. When the first open enrollment started I went on the Government web site and started to reseach the different providers and the level of insurance my son could get.

I picked up the phone and called the government provided specialist and having a lot of knowledge about Obamacare I was able to ask my questions and how the whole process worked. When I got off the phone and having full knowledge of the different programs available was able to get a 80% policy, with $10 co-pays for primary care, $5 co-pays for medications $100 co-pays for specialist with a $750 deductiable for hospitalization. The cost was $385 a month and absolutly no government subsidies. Still incuring major cost with a 80% policy.

I explained this on OPP and was met with insults a government taker my son was a fraud, liar and also the fact I was financially sound comments like pay your own medical bills and stop living off the government. I was called a Marxist, C*******t, and the right wing favorite socialist. (SORRY I GOT VERY ANGRY AND OVER THE YEARS BEGAN TO ATTACK ANY RIGHT WING BLOGGER AND IT CONTINUED OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS YOU PEOPLE DID NOT DESERVE THE KIND OF INSULTS THAT I HAVE MADE) But I want all right wing bloggers to know it was only a few and I attacked, denigrated all right wing bloggers. (I WAS WRONG)

I have read every topic every blog about Obamacare and having full knowledge of Obamacare it became very frustrating for me to read the misinformation about Obamacare and when I attempted to explain and try to get the proper information posted on Obamacare the insults just kept coming and they never stopped.

The ACA/Obamacare was a massive piece of legislation it’s not something you will understand by reading it Once. Over the years I heard how the misinformation train by right wing bloggers that had there own perception on Obamacare but (PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY) It all started with misinformation on the following topics in Obamacare.
(Mandate) (Insurance pools) (Keep your Doctor) (You can keep your insurance provider) ( PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS) (Cancelled policies) (Acused Obama from stealing $750 billion from Medicare) (Obamacare premiums rising) (Doctors refusing patients covered by Obamacare) (DEATH PANELS) (How can republicans v**e on a bill when they only had 24 hours to review) (This bill had 7000 pages) (Insurance company networks) all misinformation as to how Obamacare works. It was without a doubt the biggest misinformation campaign by the Right wing media, conspiracy theorist, Republican legislators this country has ever seen. I am not denying that there are problems with Obamacare so fix the problems. Not everything in Obamacare is bad. But for the right wing to just continue with repeal with no replacement as promised. With the Trump promise of creating new healthcare legislation giving all Americans affordable health insurance but first you have to repeal the ACA. Well that clearly will not happen.

So over the years I was attempting to explain how Obamacare functioned and explain the misinformation about the above topics. Let me explain just one example. Sarah Phalin coined the phrase death panels, and Doctors refusing coverage all due to Obamacare.

Death panels that was so obsurd, that so called death panel was a $225 allowance to meet with your doctor to be informed what was the best plan for your family. My son used that $225 and it was one of the best meetings he had because he had full knowledge as to best pick out a policy that would address his daily medical treatment and his long term medical care as his disease was never going to get better.
Then when my son choose the BC/BS platinum policy he got a phone call from his specialist that he would no longer be able to treat him because of his insurance policy. Well having full knowlege of Obamacare I called the specialist and asked why. What I got for an answer was he received a letter from the insurance company that they would no longer cover my son’s health cost. I thought that was strange because his policy was covered by all other doctors and hospitals. So I called BC/BS and what they told me was that this specialist was not signatory with there network of providers. So I got the name of there network of providers called my son’s specialist back and told him why they refused payment and the doctors office asked for the name of the network the doctor then signed onto that network and my son was able to keep his doctor. There are many networks set up by providers. But how many people just except this type of issue and don’t Follow up as to (WHY) I fixed that issue within a few hours. But not understanding Obamacare, Not understanding provider networks people just except this type of wrongdoing and the right wing blamed these cancelations on Obamacare. It was amazing to me reading right wing bloggers complaining about there doctors canceling them. When all it took was a simple phone call and problem corrected. These provider networks were in place long before Obamacare if you remember when HMO’s first came out.

Now over the years explaining to the the bloggers on OPP that post misinformation I was met with some of the most nasty insults you could imagine and I got mad and forgot who I was and went on the attack. I was told I was a liar and never read Obamacare. If it meant your son’s life (WOULD YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND OBAMACARE THE WAY I HAVE)

I have been battling this for over 10 years now. I have battled the state of Florida when Rick Scott the governor illegally allowed insurance providers to create high risk pools which was illegal. If Rick Scott got what he wanted and many OPP bloggers agreed with High Risk pools my son’s premiums would have gone up to $9,500 a month. But that was a way that insurance providers could cancel your policy and stay within the laws of the set by Obamacare that you could not cancel your policy. As it turned out Rick Scott did this illegally. But during the 3 months of this battle my son was on peritoneal home dialysis where it cost $11,500 a month just for the dialysis medication. I had to pick up that cost for two months. But when it was ruled illegal I was reimbursed.

So there has been many bumps in the road over the last 10 years. I am not looking for sympathy because there are over 40 million people in this country that battled the same issues as my family has gone through without having medical insurance in different degrees.

But my son who now is fully employed has a great job earning over $100,000 a year with a employee base medical insurance and purchased a supplemental policy through Medicare and pays the premium because of his earnings. My son, my family, and myself have never asked for government subsidies we dealt with it as a family. All we ever wanted was to have the ability to purchase medical insurance.

My son goes to dialysis 3 times a week, he works 40 to 50 hours a week, He still coaches an elite hockey team for 16 to 17 years of age. With his contacts in hockey because he played college hockey he has been able to help Florida teenagers get hooked up with the northeast juniors program and get scholarships to Division one college teams. He also has many contacts on the devision 2 college teams and this less talented players were able to go to college and play hockey.

(MY SON NOW HAS TWO YEARS TO RECIEVE A KIDNEY T***SPLANT BEFORE HE GOES INTO TOTAL RENAL FAILURE THEN HE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE) But it is just not happening in Florida due to the regulation of the t***splant centers in Florida. Another daily battle where my son has to text his blood pressure everyday and don’t forget To do it because they take you off the list. If your blood pressure rises they take you off the list, if you get the flu your off the list. But unknown to my son was when they take you off the list you have to re-Apply.

But I had no right denigrating all the right wing bloggers and denigrating all those southern red states that refused the Medicaid expansion. ( I JUST HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IN SOME SMALL WAY WHY I GOT ANGRY AND HAD ALL THIS BUILT UP H**E BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ME.)
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put... (show quote)

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Mar 12, 2019 23:15:35   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Airforceone wrote:
I guess there’s no way to break through that perception. Except to pick you up and grab an illegal bring him to MA. And prove your wrong. So if that’s what you want to believe that’s fine.


Different strokes and all that.I've never cared for sticky points. or muck stuck? folks just do what they think. sometimes work,other times questionable.at least the water isn't choppy at the mo.

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Mar 13, 2019 01:36:34   #
IrreverentOne75 Loc: Minnesota
 
Airforceone wrote:
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put states and classes of people in my insults. I want to apologize to all OPP readers and Bloggers. I should should not have attacked all right wing bloggers because of the insults from a few.

I got invovled in the whole h**e and d******eness on OPP. When all these insults were lodged at me I responded with insults. But it was only the actions of a few which I refused to name these people.

The insults against me were generated by 4 bloggers that attacked me with personal insults denigrated my son and threaten me personally.

As I think back as to when all my h**e and insults started. It started when Congress under Obama first started debating Obamacare. My son has an incurable Kidney disease and he was at that time living in the state of Florida. His medical cost were growing as the disease advanced but he continued to work and coach youth hockey. He had a employee based Medical insurance which picked up 80% of his cost but 20% was still putting a major burden on his finances. So he moved in with me so we as a family could better manage his medical cost.

My son is single and my wife passed away at the age of 47 of pancreatic cancer.

Then came the worst thing that could happen his boss called him in and said he had to let him go because the insurance provider was going to increase his cost on the employee based system. So living in Florida and no worker protection my son now has no job and no insurance. His yearly income was $75,000 a year plus quarterly bonuses in 2009.

So this was okay because he is a very talented guy and could get another job, pay the COBRA till his new job picked up his insurance premium. Wrong when he applied for a new job guess what the first question at his interview is (WHY DID YOUR LAST EMPLOYER LET YOU GO AFTER 9 years)
Yes sir my last employer let me go because I have a kidney disease and his insurance premiums were going up because of my medical cost. (INTERVIEW ENDED) Now how do you get a job.

So again no problem my son begain an attempt at getting medical insurance on his own. Wrong again there was no insurance provider in this country that would give him insurance at any cost. (PRE-EXISTING CONDITION) ( THIS ALL OCCURED PRIOR TO THE ACA)

So no job no insurance and medical bills rising. But what I did was set up with his primary care physician and his specialist a payment plan. One of his biggest cost was medication. Then periodic hospital stays for 2 or 3 days I also requested payment plans.

So no job no insurance and under these payment plans the cost was anywhere from $3000 to $3,500 a month (THIS WAS PRIOR TO HIM GOING ON DIALYSIS) this does not include medication which varied from month to month between $800 to $1500 CVS has no payment plans. And yes I explained to OPP bloggers that I was financially sound and was able to pay these medical cost so my son could keep his doctors, and specialist. But it was beginning to drain my retirement funds and it wasn’t looking good for me so I had to resign from the private golf club sell my home and downsize. Now after playing golf 5 times a week to playing 5 times a month. But it was an easy decision.

Then Obamacare was passed and like I said I followed the Obamacare legislation from start to finish. I believe that nobody on OPP understands Obamacare as I do. I followed it through the legislation process, I read all the CBO reports as to cost. I studied the Massachusetts Affordable care act passed by Republican Gov Mitt Romney and a democratic legislators.

When Obamacare became law I was very excited. When the first open enrollment started I went on the Government web site and started to reseach the different providers and the level of insurance my son could get.

I picked up the phone and called the government provided specialist and having a lot of knowledge about Obamacare I was able to ask my questions and how the whole process worked. When I got off the phone and having full knowledge of the different programs available was able to get a 80% policy, with $10 co-pays for primary care, $5 co-pays for medications $100 co-pays for specialist with a $750 deductiable for hospitalization. The cost was $385 a month and absolutly no government subsidies. Still incuring major cost with a 80% policy.

I explained this on OPP and was met with insults a government taker my son was a fraud, liar and also the fact I was financially sound comments like pay your own medical bills and stop living off the government. I was called a Marxist, C*******t, and the right wing favorite socialist. (SORRY I GOT VERY ANGRY AND OVER THE YEARS BEGAN TO ATTACK ANY RIGHT WING BLOGGER AND IT CONTINUED OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS YOU PEOPLE DID NOT DESERVE THE KIND OF INSULTS THAT I HAVE MADE) But I want all right wing bloggers to know it was only a few and I attacked, denigrated all right wing bloggers. (I WAS WRONG)

I have read every topic every blog about Obamacare and having full knowledge of Obamacare it became very frustrating for me to read the misinformation about Obamacare and when I attempted to explain and try to get the proper information posted on Obamacare the insults just kept coming and they never stopped.

The ACA/Obamacare was a massive piece of legislation it’s not something you will understand by reading it Once. Over the years I heard how the misinformation train by right wing bloggers that had there own perception on Obamacare but (PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY) It all started with misinformation on the following topics in Obamacare.
(Mandate) (Insurance pools) (Keep your Doctor) (You can keep your insurance provider) ( PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS) (Cancelled policies) (Acused Obama from stealing $750 billion from Medicare) (Obamacare premiums rising) (Doctors refusing patients covered by Obamacare) (DEATH PANELS) (How can republicans v**e on a bill when they only had 24 hours to review) (This bill had 7000 pages) (Insurance company networks) all misinformation as to how Obamacare works. It was without a doubt the biggest misinformation campaign by the Right wing media, conspiracy theorist, Republican legislators this country has ever seen. I am not denying that there are problems with Obamacare so fix the problems. Not everything in Obamacare is bad. But for the right wing to just continue with repeal with no replacement as promised. With the Trump promise of creating new healthcare legislation giving all Americans affordable health insurance but first you have to repeal the ACA. Well that clearly will not happen.

So over the years I was attempting to explain how Obamacare functioned and explain the misinformation about the above topics. Let me explain just one example. Sarah Phalin coined the phrase death panels, and Doctors refusing coverage all due to Obamacare.

Death panels that was so obsurd, that so called death panel was a $225 allowance to meet with your doctor to be informed what was the best plan for your family. My son used that $225 and it was one of the best meetings he had because he had full knowledge as to best pick out a policy that would address his daily medical treatment and his long term medical care as his disease was never going to get better.
Then when my son choose the BC/BS platinum policy he got a phone call from his specialist that he would no longer be able to treat him because of his insurance policy. Well having full knowlege of Obamacare I called the specialist and asked why. What I got for an answer was he received a letter from the insurance company that they would no longer cover my son’s health cost. I thought that was strange because his policy was covered by all other doctors and hospitals. So I called BC/BS and what they told me was that this specialist was not signatory with there network of providers. So I got the name of there network of providers called my son’s specialist back and told him why they refused payment and the doctors office asked for the name of the network the doctor then signed onto that network and my son was able to keep his doctor. There are many networks set up by providers. But how many people just except this type of issue and don’t Follow up as to (WHY) I fixed that issue within a few hours. But not understanding Obamacare, Not understanding provider networks people just except this type of wrongdoing and the right wing blamed these cancelations on Obamacare. It was amazing to me reading right wing bloggers complaining about there doctors canceling them. When all it took was a simple phone call and problem corrected. These provider networks were in place long before Obamacare if you remember when HMO’s first came out.

Now over the years explaining to the the bloggers on OPP that post misinformation I was met with some of the most nasty insults you could imagine and I got mad and forgot who I was and went on the attack. I was told I was a liar and never read Obamacare. If it meant your son’s life (WOULD YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND OBAMACARE THE WAY I HAVE)

I have been battling this for over 10 years now. I have battled the state of Florida when Rick Scott the governor illegally allowed insurance providers to create high risk pools which was illegal. If Rick Scott got what he wanted and many OPP bloggers agreed with High Risk pools my son’s premiums would have gone up to $9,500 a month. But that was a way that insurance providers could cancel your policy and stay within the laws of the set by Obamacare that you could not cancel your policy. As it turned out Rick Scott did this illegally. But during the 3 months of this battle my son was on peritoneal home dialysis where it cost $11,500 a month just for the dialysis medication. I had to pick up that cost for two months. But when it was ruled illegal I was reimbursed.

So there has been many bumps in the road over the last 10 years. I am not looking for sympathy because there are over 40 million people in this country that battled the same issues as my family has gone through without having medical insurance in different degrees.

But my son who now is fully employed has a great job earning over $100,000 a year with a employee base medical insurance and purchased a supplemental policy through Medicare and pays the premium because of his earnings. My son, my family, and myself have never asked for government subsidies we dealt with it as a family. All we ever wanted was to have the ability to purchase medical insurance.

My son goes to dialysis 3 times a week, he works 40 to 50 hours a week, He still coaches an elite hockey team for 16 to 17 years of age. With his contacts in hockey because he played college hockey he has been able to help Florida teenagers get hooked up with the northeast juniors program and get scholarships to Division one college teams. He also has many contacts on the devision 2 college teams and this less talented players were able to go to college and play hockey.

(MY SON NOW HAS TWO YEARS TO RECIEVE A KIDNEY T***SPLANT BEFORE HE GOES INTO TOTAL RENAL FAILURE THEN HE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE) But it is just not happening in Florida due to the regulation of the t***splant centers in Florida. Another daily battle where my son has to text his blood pressure everyday and don’t forget To do it because they take you off the list. If your blood pressure rises they take you off the list, if you get the flu your off the list. But unknown to my son was when they take you off the list you have to re-Apply.

But I had no right denigrating all the right wing bloggers and denigrating all those southern red states that refused the Medicaid expansion. ( I JUST HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IN SOME SMALL WAY WHY I GOT ANGRY AND HAD ALL THIS BUILT UP H**E BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ME.)
I made many accusations against people on OPP. Put... (show quote)


After taking the time to read your entire post I am inclined to believe that it is nothing more than an attempt to ingratiate yourself with an audience of others like yourself. You make no mention of any of your nasty remarks to people who did nothing more that disagree with your opinions.

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Mar 13, 2019 03:10:17   #
redpill Loc: Oregon - not PDX
 
archie bunker wrote:
... I'm a sarcastic smartass ...


Reading through all the previous back and forth, makes me think that we on OPP have strong opinions (duh). I always hope that we have solid researched facts (such as reading a Bill many times to get the nuances, or looking at raw data to see if we agree with the premise being made) to support those opinions. I also think that generalizations based on our own personal circumstances may not be useful, but are anecdotally interesting at times.

As for Sarcasm... I learned long ago that it quickly can backfire on you. I used to use it A LOT. I thought it was funny.... until.... NO ONE believed a word I said. I p***e myself in being honest (and again hopefully informed). However, when my friends would not believe a straight forward statement because they could not discern if I was being sarcastic or not, I was crushed. The little ha ha I got was not at all worth it. I chose to never use it without an immediate add on to say that I'm being sarcastic. In the typed communication we are limited too here, we don't even get the chance to guess by the tone of a person's voice. Perhaps it is not the best communication style for this forum. (IMHO)

The use on insults is never useful (again IMHO). Calling an IDEA stupid is just fine with me, but calling the PERSON stupid is not. IMHO those stupid ideas are coming from uninformed persons that I may choose to try to show them the correct path. (lol, I never said I was not stuck on myself ...lol)

The use of denigrating name-calling of the people we discuss is offensive to me. Nor is comparing them to inanimate objects or animals less offensive.

Before ya'll get the thought that I am a goody-two-shoe, I do get mad and violate all the good practices that I preach (yeppers, I feel like I'm preaching... mostly to myself, hope I am listening). Just slap me up beside the head when I waver.

It also seems that we here on OPP have lots of health issues. Thanks for sharing. Understanding where someone is coming from helps us to communicate better. I pray for all, that those issues can be resolved or at least lessened.

Looking-For-Common-Ground , Hugh (Redpill)

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