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Mar 8, 2019 14:22:16   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Here's another Trump's lie, Bloomberg is reporting Trump had 200 mercenaries at the Columbian border to force the aid trucks into Venezuela the Columbian Government disarmed the mercenaries and sent them home, wherever that was, not here I hope, Bolton couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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Mar 8, 2019 15:15:13   #
Silent Hammer
 
"May", "May", "Potentially"......boy, if THAT'S not solid.....uh.....political opinionism, I don't know what it looks like!

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Mar 8, 2019 19:05:05   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
RT friend wrote:
Here's another Trump's lie, Bloomberg is reporting Trump had 200 mercenaries at the Columbian border to force the aid trucks into Venezuela the Columbian Government disarmed the mercenaries and sent them home, wherever that was, not here I hope, Bolton couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.


You are long on claims and short on proof.

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Mar 9, 2019 00:17:59   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
You are long on claims and short on proof.


I didn't actually read that article published by Bloomburg I heard about it on the Duran hold on I'll investigate right now.

Here it is ; Venezuela News Latest.

https://www.bloomburg.com

Bloomburg , politics.
Heavily Armed Soldiers Abort a Plan to Enter Venezuela by Force.

Late last month ,as US officials joined Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido near a bridge in Columbia to send desperately needed aid to the masses and challenge the rule of Nicolas Maduro, some 200 exiled soldiers were checking their weapons to clear the way for the convoy.

Led by retired General Clover Alcala, who has been living in Columbia, they were going to drive back the Venezuelan national guardsmen blocking the aid on the other side. The plan was stopped by the Columbian Government, which feared violent clashes at a highly public event it promised would be peaceful.

The article continues, I'll leave it there, but the commentators on the Duran went on to say Guaido was on his way to Europe on a speaking tour but his credibility is in tatters, so he got sent back to Venezuela to blend into the scenery, now a ramped up economic sanctions strategy will take over from the "all options on the table" scenario.

Obviously what will happen is China and Russia will support the Maduro identity and it will become like Chavez was after 2002.

To add insult to injury the US is buying Russian Crude to make up the shortfall Venezuela is not delivering.

Mind you I'm all for Maduro's economic policies but I can't take the Culture it creates Comrade Stalin would never have put up with it, but I do feel Trump has lost a great deal of his credibility I don't think he can recover but I support Bernie Sanders now even if Trump dumps Abrams and Bolton so I don't care, I'm really angry.





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Mar 9, 2019 01:43:00   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
I want Trump taken down by the t***h...


Don't hold your breath, Looped Guru.

So far, everything the left has thrown at President Trump has been unsubstantiated innuendo, wishful thinking and outright lies, and that's all your lot will ever have to work with.

The fact that the Democrats have no compunction about spending millions in taxpayer dollars and expending combined weeks and months of the people's time (on the clock, as they say) trying to disrupt or otherwise end a duly elected presidency just because they didn't like the outcome of an e******n tells us everything we need to know about these Democrat politicians and the i***ts who v**e for them.

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Mar 9, 2019 01:43:03   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
RT friend wrote:
I didn't actually read that article published by Bloomburg I heard about it on the Duran hold on I'll investigate right now.

Here it is ; Venezuela News Latest.

https://www.bloomburg.com

Bloomburg , politics.
Heavily Armed Soldiers Abort a Plan to Enter Venezuela by Force.

Late last month ,as US officials joined Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido near a bridge in Columbia to send desperately needed aid to the masses and challenge the rule of Nicolas Maduro, some 200 exiled soldiers were checking their weapons to clear the way for the convoy.

Led by retired General Clover Alcala, who has been living in Columbia, they were going to drive back the Venezuelan national guardsmen blocking the aid on the other side. The plan was stopped by the Columbian Government, which feared violent clashes at a highly public event it promised would be peaceful.

The article continues, I'll leave it there, but the commentators on the Duran went on to say Guaido was on his way to Europe on a speaking tour but his credibility is in tatters, so he got sent back to Venezuela to blend into the scenery, now a ramped up economic sanctions strategy will take over from the "all options on the table" scenario.

Obviously what will happen is China and Russia will support the Maduro identity and it will become like Chavez was after 2002.

To add insult to injury the US is buying Russian Crude to make up the shortfall Venezuela is not delivering.

Mind you I'm all for Maduro's economic policies but I can't take the Culture it creates Comrade Stalin would never have put up with it, but I do feel Trump has lost a great deal of his credibility I don't think he can recover but I support Bernie Sanders now even if Trump dumps Abrams and Bolton so I don't care, I'm really angry.




I didn't actually read that article published by B... (show quote)


No offense, but you are not a US citizen and you don't v**e in this country, so your anger is a non-issue. It means as much as my opinion that Australian gun laws are unnecessarily restrictive. I don't v**e in your country and your laws and the way Australia conducts her affairs are none of my business.

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Mar 9, 2019 02:14:39   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
No offense, but you are not a US citizen and you don't v**e in this country, so your anger is a non-issue. It means as much as my opinion that Australian gun laws are unnecessarily restrictive. I don't v**e in your country and your laws and the way Australia conducts her affairs are none of my business.


That's true and I only respond if asked apart from my initial comment.

The thing is what the US does affects us, and also so when you live off the taxes paid by Global Corporations registered in the US and the conversion of foreign currency into the USD your legal jurisdiction is extended World wide which when people are affected by laws they have some rights anger is among them depending on how it's expressed.

Another point is before Trump started his trade war I always supported Trump, no one complained, now Australia started losing big time, so we'll see what the outcome is at the end of this month, if I'm right China will not give an inch, if so, I would have been right, and offered good advice, because the balance of economic power would certainly change, this change probably would be disadvantageous to the US.

Culture and gun laws still need to be talked about, I can tell you what John Dewey thought about gun laws from an Irish perspective, we crave moral certainty but we reap moral oppression, so from oppression comes certainty, and oppressed people are the ones without guns.


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Mar 9, 2019 13:09:03   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
RT friend wrote:
I didn't actually read that article published by Bloomburg I heard about it on the Duran hold on I'll investigate right now.

Here it is ; Venezuela News Latest.

https://www.bloomburg.com

Bloomburg , politics.
Heavily Armed Soldiers Abort a Plan to Enter Venezuela by Force.

Late last month ,as US officials joined Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido near a bridge in Columbia to send desperately needed aid to the masses and challenge the rule of Nicolas Maduro, some 200 exiled soldiers were checking their weapons to clear the way for the convoy.

Led by retired General Clover Alcala, who has been living in Columbia, they were going to drive back the Venezuelan national guardsmen blocking the aid on the other side. The plan was stopped by the Columbian Government, which feared violent clashes at a highly public event it promised would be peaceful.

The article continues, I'll leave it there, but the commentators on the Duran went on to say Guaido was on his way to Europe on a speaking tour but his credibility is in tatters, so he got sent back to Venezuela to blend into the scenery, now a ramped up economic sanctions strategy will take over from the "all options on the table" scenario.

Obviously what will happen is China and Russia will support the Maduro identity and it will become like Chavez was after 2002.

To add insult to injury the US is buying Russian Crude to make up the shortfall Venezuela is not delivering.

Mind you I'm all for Maduro's economic policies but I can't take the Culture it creates Comrade Stalin would never have put up with it, but I do feel Trump has lost a great deal of his credibility I don't think he can recover but I support Bernie Sanders now even if Trump dumps Abrams and Bolton so I don't care, I'm really angry.




I didn't actually read that article published by B... (show quote)


You should check your sources about oil bought by this country. This government doesn't buy any oil from anyone. Please show the proof that our government provided any help to those exiled soldiers at the border.

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Mar 9, 2019 14:36:24   #
Seth
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
No offense, but you are not a US citizen and you don't v**e in this country, so your anger is a non-issue. It means as much as my opinion that Australian gun laws are unnecessarily restrictive. I don't v**e in your country and your laws and the way Australia conducts her affairs are none of my business.


Unless he brings a case of VB (Victoria Bitters) to the debate.

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Mar 9, 2019 17:31:50   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Louie27 wrote:
You should check your sources about oil bought by this country. This government doesn't buy any oil from anyone. Please show the proof that our government provided any help to those exiled soldiers at the border.


Bloomberg implied it because they realise war is not an option I suppose the proof would be that about two weeks ago US Citizens were deported from Haiti - 18 th. February 2019.- BBC Https://www.bbc.com Latin America & Caribbean.
Haiti arrests: US confirms Americans among group detained.

Port-au-Prince protests against the president.

The group of 8 obviously mercenary insurgents only one Haitian were so confident they were immune from arrest that they were driving around in number plateless cars so there could be no investigation about assassinations as there would be nowhere to start, but they were detain by a concerned conscientious low ranking police officer.

These armed agent provocateurs were deported from Haiti to be charged with crimes in the US but when they landed on US soil they were released without any charges being laid.

Positive proof because the Haitian President Moise is backed by Trump's Administration same as Guaido.



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Mar 11, 2019 04:27:25   #
k7gco
 
Of all the self declared experts here, has anyone noticed Trump has created what hasn't been achieved is 50 years of the lowest Unemployment EVER for all races. He told the t***h about that & is about to fund the wall - another promise. These are t***hs so large despite the constant knifes in his back & CONSTANT LYING about him 24/7 since day one of the Dumacrats & the Press, I have no concern about all the rest. If Hillary got in as president we would be t***hfully almost be as bad off as Venezuela is now, who has no Electrical Power for many & 3,000,000 have left the country looking for food the present Dictator even keeps from them to control them including the goods the US sent to them. Trump has accomplished more than any president in 2 years+, nullified most of what the Muslin T*****r (with a phony birth certificate & SS card) stuck on most of us to control us. Trump gave up a great life style, no worries for himself & family to make America great again at no financial profit for himself. However, I am very concerned about his Democrat son in law Kushner & his very questionable activities? I pointed this out 2 years ago. Trump has saved the country from a "Socialistic Dictatorship" that NO one else could have or would have. It would have been more of the same at an accelerated rate.
What you should be concerned about is the Military Tribunals that were set up to try Civil Suits that are going on in Gimo that started Jan 2. If you don't know the details of this you better damn well find out or quit mouthing off about Trump. It was remodeled for legal purposes over the last 2 years at a fair expense & facilities to house several thousand after their convictions - Permanently. Many of you need to be better informed on things that are being done even for your benefit the F**e News Press refuses to tell you of. As long as he continues to accomplish what he does I'm not too much concerned how he does it.

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Mar 11, 2019 06:38:55   #
Seth
 
k7gco wrote:
Of all the self declared experts here, has anyone noticed Trump has created what hasn't been achieved is 50 years of the lowest Unemployment EVER for all races. He told the t***h about that & is about to fund the wall - another promise. These are t***hs so large despite the constant knifes in his back & CONSTANT LYING about him 24/7 since day one of the Dumacrats & the Press, I have no concern about all the rest. If Hillary got in as president we would be t***hfully almost be as bad off as Venezuela is now, who has no Electrical Power for many & 3,000,000 have left the country looking for food the present Dictator even keeps from them to control them including the goods the US sent to them. Trump has accomplished more than any president in 2 years+, nullified most of what the Muslin T*****r (with a phony birth certificate & SS card) stuck on most of us to control us. Trump gave up a great life style, no worries for himself & family to make America great again at no financial profit for himself. However, I am very concerned about his Democrat son in law Kushner & his very questionable activities? I pointed this out 2 years ago. Trump has saved the country from a "Socialistic Dictatorship" that NO one else could have or would have. It would have been more of the same at an accelerated rate.
What you should be concerned about is the Military Tribunals that were set up to try Civil Suits that are going on in Gimo that started Jan 2. If you don't know the details of this you better damn well find out or quit mouthing off about Trump. It was remodeled for legal purposes over the last 2 years at a fair expense & facilities to house several thousand after their convictions - Permanently. Many of you need to be better informed on things that are being done even for your benefit the F**e News Press refuses to tell you of. As long as he continues to accomplish what he does I'm not too much concerned how he does it.
Of all the self declared experts here, has anyone ... (show quote)


Oh, they know at some level, they're just too obsessed with anti-Trumpism to acknowledge his accomplishments. If they DON'T know, they are nowhere near the marketplace and only reading left wing propaganda.

President Trump could walk on water and all they would say is "Trump can't swim."

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Mar 11, 2019 12:16:49   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
RT friend wrote:
Bloomberg implied it because they realise war is not an option I suppose the proof would be that about two weeks ago US Citizens were deported from Haiti - 18 th. February 2019.- BBC Https://www.bbc.com Latin America & Caribbean.
Haiti arrests: US confirms Americans among group detained.

Port-au-Prince protests against the president.

The group of 8 obviously mercenary insurgents only one Haitian were so confident they were immune from arrest that they were driving around in number plateless cars so there could be no investigation about assassinations as there would be nowhere to start, but they were detain by a concerned conscientious low ranking police officer.

These armed agent provocateurs were deported from Haiti to be charged with crimes in the US but when they landed on US soil they were released without any charges being laid.

Positive proof because the Haitian President Moise is backed by Trump's Administration same as Guaido.


Bloomberg implied it because they realise war is n... (show quote)


Please show some proof of you last sentence in your statement.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:17:03   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Louie27 wrote:
Please show some proof of you last sentence in your statement.


Highly unusual offences to be deported for without charges, furthermore the US made commitments for prosecutions to take place under US jurisdiction, and this in itself is not common.

But I'm not that familiar with the nitty gritty, its really only what I heard second hand, but I think when more than half the country believed that these US Citizens with military and "military intelligence" backgrounds were in Haiti to murder people in order for the Government of Haiti to have an excuse to react violently against demonstrations it does sound like promises were made for legal proceedings to take place in the US.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Haitian Timeline: www.coha.org

1911 The US State Dept helps City Bank of NewYork acquire the only Commercial bank in Haiti.
1915 President Wilson sends 3,000 marines to Port-au-Prince after an uprising.
1915 - 1934 the US weilds veto power over all Gov. decisions in Haiti.
1917 Haitian President dissolved the Haitian Legislature after it refused to approve a new Constitution penned by Franklin D. Roosevelt the new constitution was eventually approved which allowed for Haitians to work on US Military bases not being paid wages in lieu of paying taxes for the having the bases in Haiti, this is something Trump is now attempting to establish in Germany South Korea and Japan.
1934 US relinquished occupation of Haiti but maintained control of Gov finance until 1947.
1992 DC based exiled Haitian Gov.enact Washington Protocol, President Bush orders US factories in Haiti free from the US embargo protocols, and the US Coast Guard interdict all Haitians leaving the Haiti sending them back to the Island.
1994 US occupation of Haiti.
1995 IMF destroys Haitian rice cultivation when the US hands over Military Authority to the UN.
2004 US orchestrated c**p d'etat.
2009 Bill Clinton becomes Special Envoy to Haiti.
Bill Clinton, massive earthquake that k**led 220,000 Haitians this is what their still upset about as well as Pizza Gate Haitian children being used as sex s***es exposed by the Podesta emails.


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Mar 12, 2019 13:16:15   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
RT friend wrote:
Highly unusual offences to be deported for without charges, furthermore the US made commitments for prosecutions to take place under US jurisdiction, and this in itself is not common.

But I'm not that familiar with the nitty gritty, its really only what I heard second hand, but I think when more than half the country believed that these US Citizens with military and "military intelligence" backgrounds were in Haiti to murder people in order for the Government of Haiti to have an excuse to react violently against demonstrations it does sound like promises were made for legal proceedings to take place in the US.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Haitian Timeline: www.coha.org

1911 The US State Dept helps City Bank of NewYork acquire the only Commercial bank in Haiti.
1915 President Wilson sends 3,000 marines to Port-au-Prince after an uprising.
1915 - 1934 the US weilds veto power over all Gov. decisions in Haiti.
1917 Haitian President dissolved the Haitian Legislature after it refused to approve a new Constitution penned by Franklin D. Roosevelt the new constitution was eventually approved which allowed for Haitians to work on US Military bases not being paid wages in lieu of paying taxes for the having the bases in Haiti, this is something Trump is now attempting to establish in Germany South Korea and Japan.
1934 US relinquished occupation of Haiti but maintained control of Gov finance until 1947.
1992 DC based exiled Haitian Gov.enact Washington Protocol, President Bush orders US factories in Haiti free from the US embargo protocols, and the US Coast Guard interdict all Haitians leaving the Haiti sending them back to the Island.
1994 US occupation of Haiti.
1995 IMF destroys Haitian rice cultivation when the US hands over Military Authority to the UN.
2004 US orchestrated c**p d'etat.
2009 Bill Clinton becomes Special Envoy to Haiti.
Bill Clinton, massive earthquake that k**led 220,000 Haitians this is what their still upset about as well as Pizza Gate Haitian children being used as sex s***es exposed by the Podesta emails.

Highly unusual offences to be deported for without... (show quote)


How did this discussion go from Venezuela to Haiti?

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